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sim racing isn’t the problem here.
Nothing reckless about what Schumacher and Senna did. They were calculated moves. Max does it because he loses his cool.
No way, imagine if Rashford or Bruno did this, we’d be rightfully asking how is it allowed. It’s not been as issue before cause he’s won easily over the last few years. I don’t have any negative agenda against him, I just think it has to have an impact when he starts to get all cranky and argumentative when things are unraveling.In the same interview Marko said it's normal for Max, he has a different rhythm, and he got his sleep quotum that night. He's stayed up even longer before and won. Horner also said after the race it wasn't and hasn't been an issue and Max was completely alert and focused during the pre race briefing as well. So yes, it's a narrative being pushed by Crofty and co. and yes all the shite those knobs have managed to stir up with these stories has likely led to a conversation where they've asked Max to lay low for a while on that front as to not add fuel to the fire.
Sancho basically did it and got vilified for it as he shouldNo way, imagine if Rashford or Bruno did this, we’d be rightfully asking how is it allowed. It’s not been as issue before cause he’s won easily over the last few years. I don’t have any negative agenda against him, I just think it has to have an impact when he starts to get all cranky and argumentative when things are unraveling.
Exactly, I just think professional sports people getting paid ridiculous money should do everything they can to win. Gaming to the early hours isn’t that. You can get away with it when it’s all smelling of roses but doesn’t take long for it to turn sour.Sancho basically did it and got vilified for it as he should
No it's not, Crofty was going on about a lack of sleep (and repeating that 100 times in his commentary, blaming his frustration and anger and everything else he could think of on it as well) which by all accounts is not what happened.It’s not a narrative being pushed. It was something that had happened.
Just as you speak of Horner and Marko it can be easily said that they’re not going to publicly throw max under the bus and say he was too tired to drive and it caused issues. Surely you see that, they’d never do that to their number 1 golden driver. , so using what they’ve said is just suiting a narrative you want to push
No way, imagine if Rashford or Bruno did this, we’d be rightfully asking how is it allowed. It’s not been as issue before cause he’s won easily over the last few years. I don’t have any negative agenda against him, I just think it has to have an impact when he starts to get all cranky and argumentative when things are unraveling.
Sancho basically did it and got vilified for it as he should
Hope you're not seriousfifa is literally football simulator… feck sake.
You let the agenda creep in there. I haven't mentioned Lewis once, but if you want to bring him up then he's overall had the better of all his teammates.
Reference the greats. Senna, Schumacher, Clark. When not on retirement tours or fighting the FIA they all had the better of their teammates, every single season. Fangio did too except for not finishing too many races in his very first season. Hamilton hasn't and that goes against him, but Verstappen has already missed that mark too.
Nothing reckless about what Schumacher and Senna did. They were calculated moves. Max does it because he loses his cool.
if you think sim racing is even 5% like driving on an actual track in a man actual car, you’re mental. it’s as close to racing as fifa is to football. you can basically learn the track layouts and maybe some braking points. stuff he knows inside out already. there’s feck all else to be gained from it.Hope you're not serious
if you think sim racing is even 5% like driving on an actual track in a man actual car, you’re mental. it’s as close to racing as fifa is to football. you can basically learn the track layouts and maybe some braking points. stuff he knows inside out already. there’s feck all else to be gained from it.
the hard part of racing is the conditions, the g-force and the actual risk of binning the car or crashing. that is completely gone in sim racing. does he lose kilos of weight from sweating during the sim racing? does he piss himself in his seat if he has to? is it unbearably hot? if he was up until 3 in the morning in the actual simulator, i would have a tiny bit more sympathy. i would still think it’s irresponsible the night before a race, but there’s a tiny bit more merit to it.Spoken like a true grandpa
Mate he's got a sim racing setup worth over 50 grand. He's racing in professional events. F1 teams actually use similar (though obviously with custom software and the like) setups to train, to establish a base setup for the race, etc., and have done so for years. They employ people specifically to do this. And you're ignoring my other points. If you can't see how what Max does is different from a footballer sitting on his couch with a fecking PlayStation controller in his hands playing FIFA and subsequently showing up to actual training late, I don't know what to tell you..if you think sim racing is even 5% like driving on an actual track in a man actual car, you’re mental. it’s as close to racing as fifa is to football. you can basically learn the track layouts and maybe some braking points. stuff he knows inside out already. there’s feck all else to be gained from it.
it is still an incredibly poor replica of actual racing conditions, regardless of how much he’s spent. there’s a reason the fia don’t give a feck about how much time the teams use it but limit actual running time on tracks. you can’t learn that much from it. it’s all built from limited runs on actual circuits. they cannot fully replicate the driving, let alone the toll on the driver.Mate he's got a sim racing setup worth over 50 grand. He's racing in professional events. F1 teams actually use similar (though obviously with custom software and the like) setups to train, to establish a base setup for the race, etc., and have done so for years. They employ people specifically to do this. And you're ignoring my other points. If you can't see how what Max does is different from a footballer sitting on his couch with a fecking PlayStation controller in his hands playing FIFA and subsequently showing up to actual training late, I don't know what to tell you..
Just comparing sim racing to Singapore. Every other track is physically a piece of cake for the level of athlete F1 drivers are. The physicality and the risk dont even register for them.
The most difficult part of racing is the racing.
because they’re all racing nerds and would have grown up playing gran turismo and the likes. max sim races because he enjoys it. that’s fine. i was about to say he’s a grown man, but we’ll go with him being an adult. he can do what he wants. but staying up until 3am doing it on the eve of a race is not for his job. it’s selfish and it’s irresponsible to the entire team. i doubt any of them are fine with it. i would wager that’s why his race engineer was so shitty with him. he’s about to have a month off. maybe that would be the time to do it instead.Because there's a miniscule number of available seats in the top tiers of motorsport. Most people dont get the huge financial backing from aged 5 needed to get there.
And like I said, half of the F2, F3, F4 grids are all keen sim racers. DTM drivers, Touring drivers, WEC drivers, Nascar drivers, the best two drivers on the F1 grid in Max and Lando... why would they all get so invested in sim racing if it's such a poor imitation of the real thing?
Yeah, not sure how staying up until 3am the night before a race isn't considered unprofessional.
Max Verstappen will take a 10 place grid penalty in Belgium after taking a new ICE.
In 2022 Verstappen came from 14th to win the race, and in 2023 he came from 6th to win, so this doesn’t count him out completely.
A potential HUGE opportunity for McLaren to score big points on Red Bull in the constructors championship.
no issue for him. he’ll just do 500 laps of spa on iracing and it’ll mean he gets all 10 positions back by turn 3.
Let’s agree to disagree then. If one of my Project Managers was playing Project Manager Extreme all night and messed up a huge presentation to millions of people I’d not be happy! But each to their own.No it's not, Crofty was going on about a lack of sleep (and repeating that 100 times in his commentary, blaming his frustration and anger and everything else he could think of on it as well) which by all accounts is not what happened.
Footballers get stick for playing games like FIFA or Call of Duty or going clubbing untill late at night. They don't usually get stick for basically training too much do they?
Are you really going to act like what Sancho did is the same? My god. You're comparing competing in a professional event in a racing simulator untill 3 AM, getting enough sleep and showing up focussed and on time for the pre race briefing to playing games like FIFA untill 3 AM and turning up late to training multiple times.
No but Karen and Crofty don’t get paid by Red Bull so don’t have to toe the line.Just as well his engineers aren't a bunch of Karens and Crofties.
It really is the devils work that this coincides with the time you develop your adult habits .I think too much is made of this sim racing dealio except for one thing that is just part of being a human: once you pass the age of 25 or so staying up all hours of the night and not feeling it the next day gets harder for most of us. I can imagine that Max has a hard time coming to grips with that. It might even explain why he was so (even by his standards) very irritable the past weekend.
Sure he's a top driver in peak physical condition - but we have but a reasonably tiny window in our lives when we can basically eat, drink and sleep whatever and whenever we want.
I also posted this news yesterday but it got lost in the stupid max sim racing nonsense.Max Verstappen will take a 10 place grid penalty in Belgium after taking a new ICE.
In 2022 Verstappen came from 14th to win the race, and in 2023 he came from 6th to win, so this doesn’t count him out completely.
A potential HUGE opportunity for McLaren to score big points on Red Bull in the constructors championship.
Red Bull probably see an advantage for a fresh engine at Spa for Verstappen, combine that with their DRS and the Kemmel Straight should be a hive of overtaking activity for them.I also posted this news yesterday but it got lost in the stupid max sim racing nonsense.
Be very interesting to see what happens if Piastri is leading the race with 20 laps to go and Lando is in 2nd place....
They did the same thing last year at Spa. Though it will be harder this year for him to get into the podium (safety cars aside*). The McLarens, Mercedes, Ferraris are all competitive and also if Max is behind the Haas's after his penalty is applied that could be tough as they are rapidly in a straight line.Red Bull probably see an advantage for a fresh engine at Spa for Verstappen, combine that with their DRS and the Kemmel Straight should be a hive of overtaking activity for them.
Even with Briatore back on the grid, we can confidently say that it'll be a driving issue rather than anything manufactured . If Perez doesn't score well here, then expect the vultures to circle and Ricciardo and him to swap for the rest of the season.* Perez to crash his RedBull on Sunday and cause a safety car? Almost guaranteed
Would they swap or would Perez just be out completely and Lawson takes the RB seat? I don't see what keeping Perez around achieves.If Perez doesn't score well here, then expect the vultures to circle and Ricciardo and him to swap for the rest of the season.
Its the internal politics (Verstappen snr v horner) and his £50mil of sponsorship he brings to RedBullKeeping Perez is just indicative how a team can self destruct due to the inflated egos of a bunch of people. They probably cannot make a decision amidst all the bickering.
Think Red Bull have lost that straight line advantage this season but not sureRed Bull probably see an advantage for a fresh engine at Spa for Verstappen, combine that with their DRS and the Kemmel Straight should be a hive of overtaking activity for them.