Darkhorsez
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Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy
Ferrari also once told him that if he were to join they would allow him to design and release his own road car. He was really keen on this idea and when he told Horner that he wanted to leave and join Ferrari, Horner promised him that if he stayed he would offer him the same opportunity. That's how the Aston Martin Valkyrie came to be a thing.Be interesting to see what Adrian Newey does if Horner is forced out. He said last year that one of his regrets was not working with Alonso and Hamilton. Ferrari have always wanted him. They offered him his own design office and staff in UK ala John Bernard (before Newey signed a new deal) Wonder if he would go to ferrari for 25/26 seasons?
Would be one way to get Max into a ferrari especially after hamilton retires.
Or if Alonso ends up at Mercedes, would Newey switch to Mercedes? Or stay loyal to RB?
I didn't know that thanks. Designing your own Ferrari road car though, wow that's a helluva incentive.Ferrari also once told him that if he were to join they would allow him to design and release his own road car. He was really keen on this idea and when he told Horner that he wanted to leave and join Ferrari, Horner promised him that if he stayed he would offer him the same opportunity. That's how the Aston Martin Valkyrie came to be a thing.
Eh? FfsWTF just noticed that the first 2 races of the season are on a Saturday.
Due to Ramadan and not having 2 races in a week.
ffs. Looks like I'm going to miss them.WTF just noticed that the first 2 races of the season are on a Saturday.
Due to Ramadan and not having 2 races in a week.
This is true but I am busy on both Saturdays, will have to try and jig stuff around.Not that big of a deal really?
Have the same issue as @pauldyson1uk as I'm also often busy on Saturday whereas I'm usually not on Sundays.Not that big of a deal really?
Whether it's what they showed or not, either way I appreciate they're still willing to make things interesting rather than sticking with the RB18/19 and still willing to make some fairly drastic changes. Especially now that other teams seem to have moved more into RB19 territory. Collins is probably right though because there seem to be too many rumors about it.‘High suspicions’ over Red Bull emerge as RB20 ‘dummy car’ theory revealed
Deviating from last year’s dominant RB19 to put Mercedes-styled parts on the RB20, Bernie Collins is “not sure” the Red Bull unveiled at the team’s launch will be the car on track in testing.
Red Bull raised eyebrows when, as the last team to launch their 2024 challenger, the reigning World Champions took a notably different path with the design of the new car.
Incorporating Mercedes-styled sidepod inlets that the team ran last season, but scrapped with this year’s car, the engine cover also features a design Mercedes used last year with its long cooling gulleys.
Did Red Bull take the covers off a ‘dummy car’ at the launch?
Team boss Christian Horner was adamant this wasn’t a “tactical” move to show up Mercedes, as “only the stopwatch will tell but in the virtual world we wouldn’t have committed it to design if we didn’t feel it was better”.
However, Sky Sports analyst Collins isn’t so sure it is better, in fact, she’s wondering if Red Bull took the covers off a fake car.
“I think maybe years in F1 have made me suspicious,” she said in the latest Sky F1 podcast, “so let’s see the car that rolls out on Day One in Bahrain because I’m not sure it’s going to be that car.
“This could just be a little joke.”
Put to her it could be a “dummy car”, the former F1 strategy engineer for the Aston Martin team agreed: “Yeah, I am highly suspicious but let’s see.”
‘High suspicions’ over Red Bull emerge as RB20 ‘dummy car’ theory revealed (msn.com)
Driver | Team | Time | Laps |
Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | 1:33.658 | 16 |
Fernando Alonso | Aston Martin | +0.104 | 25 |
Valtteri Bottas | Sauber | +0.773 | 22 |
Alex Albon | Williams | +0.929 | 18 |
Yuki Tsunoda | RB | +1.176 | 25 |
Kevin Magnussen | Haas | +2.034 | 21 |
Max Verstappen | Red Bull | +2.335 | 22 |
George Russell | Mercedes | +2.884 | 19 |
Esteban Ocon | Alpine | +2.905 | 23 |
Oscar Piastri | McLaren | No time | 9 |
Driver | Team | Time | Laps |
Max Verstappen | Red Bull | 1:33.065 | 36 |
Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | +0.182 | 22 |
Fernando Alonso | Aston Martin | +0.320 | 32 |
Valtteri Bottas | Sauber | +1.136 | 26 |
Yuki Tsunoda | RB | +1.422 | 36 |
Alex Albon | Williams | +1.522 | 26 |
Kevin Magnussen | Haas | +2.627 | 32 |
Oscar Piastri | McLaren | +2.694 | 17 |
George Russell | Mercedes | +3.498 | 19 |
Oscar Piastri | McLaren | No time | 9 |
I like it, it sure does stand out.The green stake looks better on track, stands out.
It sure does stand out but it also hurts my eyesThe green stake looks better on track, stands out.
Driver | Team | Time | Laps |
Max Verstappen | Red Bull | 1:32.548 | 51 |
Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | +0.699 | 51 |
Fernando Alonso | Aston Martin | +0.837 | 67 |
Oscar Piastri | McLaren | +1.264 | 42 |
Yuki Tsunoda | RB | +1.588 | 52 |
Valtteri Bottas | Sauber | +1.883 | 55 |
Alex Albon | Williams | +2.039 | 38 |
Esteban Ocon | Alpine | +2.129 | 48 |
George Russell | Mercedes | +2.359 | 38 |
Kevin Magnussen | Haas | +3.144 | 48 |
Of course they were, and Geri knew who he was. When she moved from his side piece to his wife all she did was create a job opening.Seedy little git. I thought the circumstances in which he left his first wife to get with Halliwell were a bit dubious too.
Do we have some comparison what these times looked like last year ?Live timesheet @ 10:30
Driver Team Time Laps Max Verstappen Red Bull 1:32.548 51 Charles Leclerc Ferrari +0.699 51 Fernando Alonso Aston Martin +0.837 67 Oscar Piastri McLaren +1.264 42 Yuki Tsunoda RB +1.588 52 Valtteri Bottas Sauber +1.883 55 Alex Albon Williams +2.039 38 Esteban Ocon Alpine +2.129 48 George Russell Mercedes +2.359 38 Kevin Magnussen Haas +3.144 48
These are from Day one last year.Do we have some comparison what these times looked like last year ?
Ta, its still only 50 laps, but it does seem like bit of a gap is forming , more than last year.These are from Day one last year.
Day One timesheet:
1 Max Verstappen, Red Bull, 1:32.837s – 157 laps
2 Fernando Alonso, Aston Martin, 1:32.866s – 60 laps
3 Carlos Sainz, Ferrari, 1:33.253s – 72 laps
4 Charles Leclerc, Ferrari, 1:33.267s – 64 laps
5 Lando Norris, McLaren, 1:33.762s – 40 laps
6 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, 1:33.508s – 83 laps
7 Alex Albon, Williams, 1:33.671s – 74 laps
8 Zhou Guanyu, Alfa Romeo, 1:33.723s – 67 laps
9 George Russell, Mercedes, 1:34.174s – 69 laps
10 Logan Sargeant, Williams, 1:34.324s – 75 laps
11 Nico Hulkenberg, Haas, 1:34.424s – 51 laps
12 Valtteri Bottas, Alfa Romeo, 1:34.558s – 71 laps
13 Nyck de Vries, AlphaTauri, 1:34.559s – 85 laps
14 Felipe Drugovich, Aston Martin, 1:34.564s – 40 laps
15 Yuki Tsunoda, AlphaTauri, 1:34.671s – 46 laps
16 Pierre Gasly, Alpine, 1:34.822s – 60 laps
17 Esteban Ocon, Alpine, 1:34.871s – 53 laps
18 Oscar Piastri, McLaren, 1:34.888s – 52 laps
19 Kevin Magnussen, Haas, 1:35.087s – 57 laps
are we doing a Superbru Fantasy League this season ?
Driver | Team | Time | Laps |
Max Verstappen | Red Bull | 1:32.548 | 66 |
Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | +0.699 | 64 |
Fernando Alonso | Aston Martin | +0.837 | 77 |
Oscar Piastri | McLaren | +1.110 | 56 |
Yuki Tsunoda | RB | +1.588 | 64 |
George Russell | Mercedes | +1.682 | 47 |
Valtteri Bottas | Sauber | +1.883 | 67 |
Alex Albon | Williams | +2.039 | 40 |
Esteban Ocon | Alpine | +2.129 | 60 |
Kevin Magnussen | Haas | +3.144 | 66 |
Driver | Team | Time | Laps |
Max Verstappen | Red Bull | 1:32.548 | 80 |
Carlos Sainz | Ferrari | +0.036 | 29 |
Lando Norris | McLaren | +0.544 | 13 |
Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | +0.699 | 64 |
Fernando Alonso | Aston Martin | +0.837 | 77 |
Oscar Piastri | McLaren | +1.110 | 57 |
George Russell | Mercedes | +1.561 | 63 |
Yuki Tsunoda | RB | +1.588 | 64 |
Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | +1.644 | 10 |
Zhou Guanyu | Sauber | +1.836 | 10 |
Valtteri Bottas | Sauber | +1.883 | 68 |
Daniel Ricciardo | RB | +1.964 | 40 |
Alex Albon | Williams | +2.039 | 60 |
Esteban Ocon | Alpine | +2.129 | 60 |
Kevin Magnussen | Haas | +3.144 | 66 |
Pierre Gasly | Alpine | +3.561 | 16 |
Nico Hulkenberg | Haas | +5.261 | 20 |
Logan Sargeant | Williams | No time | 5 |