F1 2023 Season

Yeah but when you don't care about cost cap you might as well.
:lol: they just have better catering.

Hamilton has had a pop.

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/1...cap-after-lack-of-big-punishment-for-red-bull

So has russell.

"We don't want to see that happen again. If it's a second time offender, the punishment should be even greater than what is perhaps a fair punishment, if it happens two years in a row.

"I trust in the FIA, I think Mohammed (Ben Sulayem) is a great force there as well. They won't let anyone get away with anything that shouldn't have happened under their watch, so I've got faith in them."

Its Redbull again isnt it?
 
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Ricciardo hype is unreal. It's like he was ten times champion when he left and not one of the worst drivers on the grid last year.

:lol: they just have better catering.

Hamilton has had a pop.

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/1...cap-after-lack-of-big-punishment-for-red-bull

So has russell.

"We don't want to see that happen again. If it's a second time offender, the punishment should be even greater than what is perhaps a fair punishment, if it happens two years in a row.

"I trust in the FIA, I think Mohammed (Ben Sulayem) is a great force there as well. They won't let anyone get away with anything that shouldn't have happened under their watch, so I've got faith in them."

Its Redbull again isnt it?

Surely if its Red Bull again and they don't get some major punishment then it's a clown sport?
 
Ricciardo hype is unreal. It's like he was ten times champion when he left and not one of the worst drivers on the grid last year.



Surely if its Red Bull again and they don't get some major punishment then it's a clown sport?
Wouldn't that make footie the biggest clown sport of them all?
 
Ricciardo hype is unreal. It's like he was ten times champion when he left and not one of the worst drivers on the grid last year.



Surely if its Red Bull again and they don't get some major punishment then it's a clown sport?
They mentioned "sporting sanctions" for the offender(s), so if it is them, then i think the entire paddock would expect and demand something huge.
 
If its RB and they don't get punished with smth more than slap on wrist ,they would be a revolt, especially with how the season is going
 
I have read that RB say these will make the car 2 tenths faster :rolleyes:
Mental. Have to have a laugh at mercedes expense though. 18mths of slim sidepods and it turns out they should have mounted them horizontally not verticially.

They are really slim on the RB now.

Seeing as they have already started developing next years car, they can experiement for the rest of the season and try bits for next years car.
 
If its RB and they don't get punished with smth more than slap on wrist ,they would be a revolt, especially with how the season is going
As much as i dislike helmet marko and horner, it would be a blow for verstappen that he doesnt deserve as hes been driving really well and doesnt need another championship tainted with "only won because RB cheated".

Im not sure what would be a sufficient punishment if it was them. The grid would want something that slows them down and lets others catch up.

Wouldnt happen (but would be awesome to watch), but if they voided the points for constructors and drivers championship for RB for this season, then the latter half of the season would currently be a title race between Alonso and Hamilton (on current drivers championship standings). Sainz, leclerc, russell would fancy their chances as well. It would be glorious to watch.

Drive to Survive would have a helluva season to cover then as well.
 
:lol: they just have better catering.

Hamilton has had a pop.

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/1...cap-after-lack-of-big-punishment-for-red-bull

So has russell.

"We don't want to see that happen again. If it's a second time offender, the punishment should be even greater than what is perhaps a fair punishment, if it happens two years in a row.

"I trust in the FIA, I think Mohammed (Ben Sulayem) is a great force there as well. They won't let anyone get away with anything that shouldn't have happened under their watch, so I've got faith in them."

Its Redbull again isnt it?
Horner already had a pop at them before the season started, wondering would the Mercs be in cap trouble last season with all the changes made to the shit box.

As for RBs new side pods, bit like a letter box.
 
As much as i dislike helmet marko and horner, it would be a blow for verstappen that he doesnt deserve as hes been driving really well and doesnt need another championship tainted with "only won because RB cheated".

Im not sure what would be a sufficient punishment if it was them. The grid would want something that slows them down and lets others catch up.

Wouldnt happen (but would be awesome to watch), but if they voided the points for constructors and drivers championship for RB for this season, then the latter half of the season would currently be a title race between Alonso and Hamilton (on current drivers championship standings). Sainz, leclerc, russell would fancy their chances as well. It would be glorious to watch.

Drive to Survive would have a helluva season to cover then as well.
The most I can see is some big penalty with points for constructors. Don't think we'll see such with WDC. Either way, are there any actual rules for what the penalties should br in case of budgets over the limit, or its what fia deems necessary? If there are no tangible penalties that hurt , even if it is indeed something like an "accounting error" then cost cap would be basically dead. The only way is very detailed penalty code for every type of infraction, that everyone agrees on.
 
I'm just hoping it's McLaren in a way bc the smugness of Horner towards Zac would be hilarious. Otto would probably have an orgasm. Not that I think any driver deserves to suffer the consequences of their team screwing up behind the scenes though.
 
Ricciardo hype is unreal. It's like he was ten times champion when he left and not one of the worst drivers on the grid last year.

Surely if its Red Bull again and they don't get some major punishment then it's a clown sport?

That ship has long since sailed.


Ricciardo was once talked about as a potential champion. If he gets his form back he can be up there with all but a couple of the grid.
 
That ship has long since sailed.


Ricciardo was once talked about as a potential champion. If he gets his form back he can be up there with all but a couple of the grid.

Having Ricciardo back is perfect, another drama to watch closely. If Mick Schumacher would have replaced Sargeant it would have been even better to spice things up!

The attention and pressure will be immense on Ricciardo, will he keep smiling if he gets beaten convincingly by Tsunoda?
 
I just can’t believe it’s RB. They were so far ahead, it would be pure idiocy to cheat again, after they’d already got away with it the year before.
 
I just can’t believe it’s RB. They were so far ahead, it would be pure idiocy to cheat again, after they’d already got away with it the year before.
It’s stupid if it’s RB. If it is it might only be legacy decisions which rolled to this year whilst they investigated the previous year. They are so far ahead they could probably stop development for a year and still be winning.
 
I like him, brings some fun to the grid, but he wont make AT a whole lot better, he may get them the odd point or 2 , but not much more.
I think he’s great entertainment, a genuinely fun driver. Won’t impact the money end of the standings but he will enjoyable for the sport.
 
The second he thought he could challenge max (a laughable thought) it all went wrong for him. Put himself under unnecessary pressure and has absolutely fecked it.
 
perez showed during his stint with hamilton that he wasn’t an elite driver. mexican money has kept him in f1.
 
It is a possibility, but not till 2024 I would have thought.
OK Perez is in a bad spell, but would a DR be an improvement, would he get podiums, I like him, but for me he is not WC good.
Rb don't need another championship level driver though. But they do need a driver who goes into q3 every time.
 
Gotta love perez, RB put new sidepods on car which will mean some tweaks to the floor and perez bins it to show everyone the floor changes.

Thank you sergio.
 
FP1 pretty much meaningless, wet and a couple of red flags.
Hungarian GP Practice One Timesheet
DriverTeamTime
1) George RussellMercedes1:38.795
2) Oscar PiastriMcLaren+0.359
3) Lance StrollAston Martin+1.218
4) Lando NorrisMcLaren+1.482
5) Fernando AlonsoAston Martin+1.892
6) Valtteri BottasAlfa Romeo+2.237
7) Charles LeclercFerrari+2.347
8) Zhou GuanyuAlfa Romeo+2.568
9) Logan SargeantWilliams+2.621
10) Nico HulkenbergHaas+3.911
11) Kevin MagnussenHaas+4.111
12) Yuki TsunodaAlphaTauri+6.780
13) Alex AlbonWilliams+8.608
14) Daniel RicciardoAlphaTauriNo time
15) Carlos SainzFerrariNo time
16) Sergio PerezRed BullNo time
17) Esteban OconAlpineNo time
18) Pierre GaslyAlpineNo time
19) Max VerstappenRed BullNo time
20) Lewis HamiltonMercedesNo time