Thank you. I saw the very early work that was going on to produce this additional land. But I was of the opinion it was primarily for high rise accommodation. And it didn't look that big. But anything is worth a try.
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Thank you. I saw the very early work that was going on to produce this additional land. But I was of the opinion it was primarily for high rise accommodation. And it didn't look that big. But anything is worth a try.
It's not big, but could potentially add a more sweeping, open section to the circuit followed by a hairpin for overtaking. The ideas I've seen floated are more ambitious but just using the land as it is would give this at Portiers. Without any changes it would re-join the existing track at the tunnel and the rest of the track could remain.
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I had an idea for Monaco which was to get rid of the middle approaching a few corner so there is a lot of room to go around the outside, hard to say what I mean but I'll make a paint drawing
If there was space to add this extra section to make the joker lap, I think it would be great fun and make the race interesting again. However, I don't remotely think it will ever happen, its too "out there" for F1 and from a sporting standpoint, having 1 race out of 20+ having a very different in race format is unlikely something F1 management would want. Hope I'm wrong though.
Maybe f1 in the past under Ecclestone, but with new management they seem quite open to other ideas. If we can have a night race on a saturday in Las Vegas and the new sprint races they trialled, I see no reason why they can't make Monaco a better spectacle.
I bet if you polled f1 fans right now it would be one of the least favourite races.
It's not big, but could potentially add a more sweeping, open section to the circuit followed by a hairpin for overtaking. The ideas I've seen floated are more ambitious but just using the land as it is would give this at Portiers. Without any changes it would re-join the existing track at the tunnel and the rest of the track could remain.
Looks interesting doesn't it. Let's see how it goes.
I think over a number of years that have become harder for new fans to get into F1 due to a processional aspect Monaco would be one of the standout ones because overtaking is down to pit strategies alone. I don't know if some people have become a bit precious over it, that it's a so called Crown Jewel but with car developments nothing will always be so, discussing it isn't a sacred cow at all, we'll only get improvements either way hopefully.
Yeah that's what I'm getting at, it used to be really exciting, in the same way that OT used to be the best stadium in the country.
They've now both been left behind by much better contemporaries.
That is a fact of life isn't it. Stand still and you are going backwards.
Manchester United are not even standing still.
Those ideas are pretty crazy, the mega joker one and Super qualifying Sunday, dont like them.
But the smaller cars is a good idea, with the cost cap, its not going to happen, ut having a smaller car for Monaco does have some merit.
Yeah most of the ideas are a little over the top, but the one with extending just before the runnel around the roundabout area would work really well IMO.
A simple extra addition that could revolutionise monaco with the joker lap.
Agreed, Monaco is shite. However, sprint races are not unusual in motor sport so it wasn't that big of a leap to trial them.
Formula 1 chief executive Stefano Domenicali says a late Saturday night start for the 2023 Las Vegas Grand Prix is the "perfect time and slot" for the future event.
https://f1i.com/news/437047-domenic...E6nwLaEFa3op3pCaSqC5Ie50-MmdmF_AHiXbPb8j6Zv0I
https://f1i.com/news/437047-domenic...E6nwLaEFa3op3pCaSqC5Ie50-MmdmF_AHiXbPb8j6Zv0I
Maybe a good idea would be Mandatory 3 tyres to be used instead with 2 of the same type
just watched the duel programme on sky and it’s brought back how much of a shit show the last race was last season so maybe I’m just being a bit grumpy but that joker lap idea you can’t be serious, that’s not racing.
I've just watched the final Drive to Survive episode and now I'm fuming all over again 
I'd rather play around with the Monaco format than sprint qualifying. At least the former is trying to fix a potential issue.
That said, I'm not that bothered. I'm fine with an iconic race staying even if it's fairly boring.
That said, I'm not that bothered. I'm fine with an iconic race staying even if it's fairly boring.
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I do love the extreme test you get at Monaco and it offers something different to the rest of the tracks even those tighter tracks that are said to be Monaco like. Comparing it to OT is just silly as Monaco is still a highly demanding circuit with every lap and a hot lap spectacle. It's eye of the needle driving that I really appreciate but can understand some want the racing but after 35 years of F1, it is not a sport I'd point to for racing, it's mostly a procession, it's a sport about a team dominating in development and driving at the top of demands and glamour, racing is a bonus.
This is a good idea i have long thought should be introduced at monaco. The least costly in terms of changes. Plus every chance of a pit screwup or somwthing to alter the order.
From playing the f1 games, Singapore is the more enjoyable street circuit as its relentless. Monaco is just too narrow for the modern f1 cars thats why it feels like a extreme test, when its not really. Try driving a hummer around your town centre and its the same principle i.e. car too big for the roads. In my opinion of course.
I think when the racing is reduced to hoping for a pit stop mistake to make things exciting there is more fundamental issues
Three tyre types could be part of a solution but I think without some more fundamental track lay out changes it would be too little to make much of a difference
Of course how you change the track is not an easy question to answer but I hope if Monaco is to stay on the calendar that they find some solution
The F1 game allows you to race Monaco at night. It looks so much better. Would be interested to see an actual f1 night race at Monaco if it was logistically possible.
Fast forward to 2:15min to see a lap at night in game.
Fast forward to 2:15min to see a lap at night in game.
I dont disagree, i just think its worth trying as it wont cost f1 anymore money for that race weekend.
As some previous posters said, the land extension into the sea might give Monaco a chance to at least extend the track and maybe bring something new, or that new part of a theoretical circuit night not allow any overtaking opportunities.
Meh, I feel like a sport has to be willing to move on from history or perceived romance. Monaco is just a race I'll be glad to skip and check results afterwards.
The whole point about F1 being more about development and prestige and racing being a 'bonus' doesn't sit well with me. You can do all of them. Jeddah was great racing between Leclerc and Verstappen.
The whole point about F1 being more about development and prestige and racing being a 'bonus' doesn't sit well with me. You can do all of them. Jeddah was great racing between Leclerc and Verstappen.
I do play racing sims and Monaco is still a special track from the cockpit. It's always been a tough place to drive around and overtake, not just recently.
Suzuka is quite narrow but is so special I wouldn't change it for the world, ever corner and elevation is magnificent.
Irony as we have just been discussing it...
https://racer.com/2022/04/01/brown-tells-monaco-to-up-its-game-to-stay-on-the-f1-calendar/
https://racer.com/2022/04/01/brown-tells-monaco-to-up-its-game-to-stay-on-the-f1-calendar/
Out of curiosity what are peoples favourite five races on the current calender to watch? No particular order. Just curious.
Mine are:
Canada
Spa
Singapore
Sukuza
Saudi Arabia
Mine are:
Canada
Spa
Singapore
Sukuza
Saudi Arabia
Just sack off the historic races and just whore the calendar out to the highest bidders. That's what F1 is about these days.
Sukuza, great track in cheap gp sims.
Been watching a bit of Drive to Survive the last few days. The faked drama is bad enough, but Horner makes it almost unwatchable. One of the worst people going.
Just watched the first two seasons without having really followed F1 ever before. Really liking it, as a way to get into the different characters, teams and race dynamics.
Had read a little about the faked drama. What are some of the worst examples.
Seems that casual and people that don't watch F1 enjoy the show a lot more people that watch every race. Fans of F1 have certain ideas, biases and drivers/teams they like/dislike so it's less enjoyable, but the show is made for the more casual viewers and does a good job overall. But yeah, they overplayed the drama when the season was very dramatic; they just needed to tell the story without adding extra crap onto it.
Overall the show does what it intends, brings hype to F1 and brings new viewers in.
I watched the first 10 minutes of Season 4 and had to switch it off, so fecking boring. Were the previous seasons less shit or something?
I love F1 but have zero interest in watching Drive to Survive. Watch a few epsiodes and was bored. There are probably many who wouldn't watch a f1 race in its entirety but enjoy Drive to survive
They should just rename DTS as Keeping up with the Horners at this point.
Seen this a few times.
The tyres blowing off , how ?
Hunt punching the steward always makes me laugh
I have not watched the last series of DTS I do like it, just dont want to re-visit last season
I just skipped to the parts I wanted to see. Verstappen crashing out at Silverstone. Verstappen crashing himself and Hamilton out in Monza and then the final episode. The in-between stuff was meh.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/upright-failure-caused-buemis-crash-4437076/4437076/
Suspension failure made them essentially become no longer attached to the wheel hubs and just blew it all apart with the load force.
Certainly spectacular.