F1 2022 Season

I watched the first 10 minutes of Season 4 and had to switch it off, so fecking boring. Were the previous seasons less shit or something?

Yeah I gave up on S4 quickly

Schumacher was a great watch. Didn't know much about him prior to seeing the documentary. Tried to find something similar about the Brazilian racer guy
 
I watched the first 10 minutes of Season 4 and had to switch it off, so fecking boring. Were the previous seasons less shit or something?
The first episode in particular is a huge bore, because of the retrospective and then all the off-season stuff that's really uninteresting if you already kinda know how the season played out. But I found the season overall a little lame as a well. Maybe I've just seen enough of the behind-the-scenes stuff and there isn't much to add to that anymore? The last few episodes were better though, when the battle heats up.
 
F1 doesn’t give a feck what Zac Brown thinks about this. He’s a race team boss not a promoter.

He’s also from the land which puts up racing tracks in casino parking lots and the less said about the shit show that is “circuit of the America’s” the better.

Basically everything he said there makes complete sense.
 
Yet nobody making the decision to kee Monaco or not cares? That’s my point.

Do they need to care in order for Zak Brown to answer questions that he's asked by reporters? He still has a valid point, and seems to echo the thoughts of most people discussing the issue. When discourse happens and people tend to agree, it can lead to change.
 
Alonso will have 3 PU replaced in his first 3 races.

. Alonso forced to use new engine in Australia

After his retirement in Saudi Arabia, Fernando Alonso will board a new engine for the Australian Grand Prix.

Back on the Old Continent, the engineers of the tricolor team were able to get to work to investigate the origin of the problem. Quickly, a guilty element was found. " It's not the engine but the water pump ," explained Laurent Rossi, General Manager of Alpine, during a meeting in Viry-Châtillon. This led to a lack of cooling and subsequently a cascade of events: the engine cooled less, the oil heated up, etc… creating more worries .”

Faced with a major mechanical problem, Alpine hoped to be able to replace the element in question for the Australian Grand Prix (April 10). Unfortunately, the French manufacturer will not be able to carry out its mission and will have to equip Fernando Alonso 's A522 with a new power unit. A big blow after two contested races when the allocation is only 3 engines for the whole season (23 GP) before receiving penalties on the grid.

“ The problem is that this accessory (water pump) is integrated into the engine , emphasizes Laurent Rossi. The water pump eventually disintegrated and fell into the engine. If we had wanted to repair it, we would have had to break the seal. The engine is therefore lost to us. Even if his physical integrity is not directly affected, for us, it is one less engine . »
 
Shame, hopefully they've found the main problems now though.
 
Alonso will have 3 PU replaced in his first 3 races.
Wow, french reliability at its finest. Also is it common to have the water pump intergrated into the engine or is this just a renault thing for packaging reasons?
 
Top 5 tracks:
Suzuka
Spa
Canada
Monza
Monaco

Close behind:
Interlagos
Imola
Silverstone

Don't care much for the rest but China (not on this year) Austin and Australia are ok. Not keen on Zandvoort track, nice venue but needs to be longer, same I feel with Austria. Used to really like the old Hockenheim but the newer shorter layout I don't miss it.

A top track I miss is the Nurburgring GP track.
 
So this engine is now supposed to last till the end of the season?

21 races... Suspect we will be seeing several grid penalties for Fernando over the season
no, they can still use the other two engines. But I'm not sure how much they are allowed to work on them.
 
Spa
Monza
Canada,
Suzuka
Melbourne

For the crowd and atmosphere I like Mexico. Pilots seem to dig it too. I hope it never gets removed from the calendar again
 
I watched the first 10 minutes of Season 4 and had to switch it off, so fecking boring. Were the previous seasons less shit or something?

Yeah s4 was bad, I didn't even finish it and I loved the first 3 seasons. S1 was the best as it highlighted certain races on the calendar.
 
For those who have mentioned Melbourne in their top 5 races, be interesting to see what you think of the changes to the track, this weekend coming. I didnt think there was much wrong with the track. It has a nice flow.

However 7 turns have been changed. Pitlane widened and track surface relayed.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/f1-australian-gp-track-changes-albert-park/9517500/
Melbourne was too flowing and not enough overtaking zones either. Fun track to drive, but where could you realistically pass? the straight wasn't long enough and the corners not slow enough to lunge into.

I think if you looked at previous races overtaking was very minimal
 
Why do people like Monaco apart from its history? Literally not much overtaking and action. Just following around all race long till the pitstops.
 
Why do people like Monaco apart from its history? Literally not much overtaking and action. Just following around all race long till the pitstops.

Pure nostalgia. One poster made a good point that races in the past were more exciting when cars were smaller, making it easier to overtake. The size of them now takes up most of the track, so any chance of a car making a significant overtake mostly relies on SCs and tactical pitstops.

It's probably the only race I have skipped in past seasons due to its level of predictability
 
Why do people like Monaco apart from its history? Literally not much overtaking and action. Just following around all race long till the pitstops.

it’s what f1 should be. a playground for the rich and famous. a chance to show just how much better you are than everyone else. a chance for the small teams to know their place after being blue flagged to allow a car going 52mph to go by them. a reminder for drivers only in f1 due to their skills as a driver, like verstappen and hamilton, that they don’t belong in the sport and their drives should go to a sponsored driver of the uber rich. f1 is monaco.
 
it’s what f1 should be. a playground for the rich and famous. a chance to show just how much better you are than everyone else. a chance for the small teams to know their place after being blue flagged to allow a car going 52mph to go by them. a reminder for drivers only in f1 due to their skills as a driver, like verstappen and hamilton, that they don’t belong in the sport and their drives should go to a sponsored driver of the uber rich. f1 is monaco.
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For a drivers track I wasn't sure about the changes, Albert park was a rather challenging circuit to hook up a perfect lap. By making the corners that bit wider you lose that but I think the race will be better for it. Got to favour Max now I reckon.
 
Most peoples arguments in this thread seem to revolve around 'because it's been around for ages' as if that gives you a free pass to be boring.
What has that got to do with what he said, which isn't wrong and hasn't been in years?

Doubt it's even true that 'most' people have said 'because it's been around for ages.

If there was a way to hook you up to what a driver of your choice sees and feels during every lap, including the bruises from crashing the car then maybe it'd be more of a spectator track again, as it is it isn't on TV. Maybe if we got an invite to watch from the back end of your yacht it'd be worth going.
 
What has that got to do with what he said, which isn't wrong and hasn't been in years?

Doubt it's even true that 'most' people have said 'because it's been around for ages.

If there was a way to hook you up to what a driver of your choice sees and feels during every lap, including the bruises from crashing the car then maybe it'd be more of a spectator track again, as it is it isn't on TV. Maybe if we got an invite to watch from the back end of your yacht it'd be worth going.

I have a yacht?

I'm not sure what your first line means, I literally answered his question. I should have expanded by saying those who oppose its removal seem to say because it's been around for ages (history, prestige, all fluff words for it's been around for ages). The race itself in the modern day offers nothing in the way of entertainment value to the spectator which is a large part of what the sport is intended to do and the cars aren't suited to the track. Feeling how hurt they get wouldn't change that. Qualifying is entertaining, but that's not the race.
 
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I have a yacht?

I'm not sure what your first line means, I literally answered his question. I should have expanded by saying those who oppose its removal seem to say because it's been around for ages (history, prestige, all fluff words for it's been around for ages). The race itself in the modern day offers nothing in the way of entertainment value to the spectator which is a large part of what the sport is intended to do and the cars aren't suited to the track. Feeling how hurt they get wouldn't change that. Qualifying is entertaining, but that's not the race.
I'm not sure really, I think I must have been putting the right words in the wrong order but I mostly meant to agree with you. I know you haven't got a yacht. Well I didn't mean you, you might have one for all I know, but I meant the generalisation of people who go just to drink prosecco and spend their time with girls in bikinis while a race happens to be going on somewhere in the background, it's why @Sassy Colin goes. The only thing that is genuinely interesting about the race is the drivers point of view, selling that 'experience' would be the only way to keep it at all interesting but maybe the 'feeling' of the injuries is going too far. Maybe. Who knows?
 
I'm not sure really, I think I must have been putting the right words in the wrong order but I mostly meant to agree with you. I know you haven't got a yacht. Well I didn't mean you, you might have one for all I know, but I meant the generalisation of people who go just to drink prosecco and spend their time with girls in bikinis while a race happens to be going on somewhere in the background, it's why @Sassy Colin goes. The only thing that is genuinely interesting about the race is the drivers point of view, selling that 'experience' would be the only way to keep it at all interesting but maybe the 'feeling' of the injuries is going too far. Maybe. Who knows?

You could probably achieve it tbh. I saw a video where Andy McNab set up some mad tech with a treadmill you can move 360 on, an xbox kinnect controller to detect crouching and jumping and then a ring of paintball guns in front of him. They made it so that every time he got shot in Battlefield a paintball gun fired at him directionally. You could probably sync that up to F1 and when they hit a barrier you get lit up by paintball guns.

 
You could probably achieve it tbh. I saw a video where Andy McNab set up some mad tech with a treadmill you can move 360 on, an xbox kinnect controller to detect crouching and jumping and then a ring of paintball guns in front of him. They made it so that every time he got shot in Battlefield a paintball gun fired at him directionally. You could probably sync that up to F1 and when they hit a barrier you get lit up by paintball guns.


That could work, buying into that would be like putting your money where your mouth is, a good addition to Fantasy F1. I was looking at something the other day that is a sort of therapy device for arthritis (don't all laugh at once you shits) that works using compressed air. This was for someone with smallish hands so I put my big plates of meat in which is basically a glove and apparently it's meant to massage each joint and finger independently. Effing thing effing hurt and wouldn't effing stop until it had gone through its cycle and it really gripped the hand so it wouldn't release you. Make a suit out of that and there's all sorts of options you know? No, before you ask, I only put my hand in. But I did think about it.
 
I'm not sure really, I think I must have been putting the right words in the wrong order but I mostly meant to agree with you. I know you haven't got a yacht. Well I didn't mean you, you might have one for all I know, but I meant the generalisation of people who go just to drink prosecco and spend their time with girls in bikinis while a race happens to be going on somewhere in the background, it's why @Sassy Colin goes. The only thing that is genuinely interesting about the race is the drivers point of view, selling that 'experience' would be the only way to keep it at all interesting but maybe the 'feeling' of the injuries is going too far. Maybe. Who knows?

Yeah, it's Champagne not Prosecco
 
I wouldn't like to see Monaco go, purely for the history of it. It's often a pretty shite race alright, and I'd like for them to try something different to make it a bit more exciting (like that joker lap thing), but I wouldn't want to see it off the calendar.
 
Most peoples arguments in this thread seem to revolve around 'because it's been around for ages' as if that gives you a free pass to be boring.
People like it because they are told they're supposed to like it.

You can appreciate the skill and concentration levels required to drive around there for 90 minutes and not crash, but it doesn't mean it will translate to a good spectacle.
 
Why do people like Monaco apart from its history? Literally not much overtaking and action. Just following around all race long till the pitstops.
Think you will find most dont actually like Monaco.
I have said before that history should not make something a given, but this is an exception, this history behind Monaco, being part of the Motorsport Triple Crown.
Unless its wet Monaco is a dreadful track, with not a huge scope for improvement.
 
I would happily see Monaco go. Spa, interlagos, monza, suzuka, Silverstone and Montreal are untouchable imo.
 
I love Monaco.
I love everything about it. I know overtaking is impossible but maybe that's why I find it so fascinating, one small lock up in qualifying, one touch of the barrier in the race, one slow or wrongly timed pit stop and you can go from winning the race to nowhere.

That and the atmosphere and history sorrounding it, it's one of the race weekends I look forward to most
 
With the new designs I wonder if we can see an overtake at Monaco out the tunnel or even before the first corner. Wasn't that long ago I remember Kimi managing it.