Nah Senna or Schumacher would have succeeded at whatever shenanigan they tried. Max tried this and weaving like a 19th century mill girl and still didn't.
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Not sure Gravel is the answer.
Just look at todays track, Schumacher went wide into the gravel and proceeded to bring half of it with him back into the track.
that isn't safe so would require either double waved yellows with marshalls on track, a safety car or at worse a red. It would just ruin the flow of the race too often.
Exactly that. The problem is that Max and his RB team don't see anything wrong with what he has done. It is not only about intent. It is as much about driver safety. You must not be allowed to intimidate others to win the race.
The funny thing is if somebody did that to Max they'd be the first person on the radio. That Jonathan Wheatley will be hitting up his speed dial to Micheal Masi with his rulebook ready in hand.
If I remember correctly at Austria the Norris/Perez situation, way less controversial but he was on the radio in seconds. They like to play hard when it suit them, not so much the other way around.
Horner on Sky F1 , bleating his normal shit.
He does not see anything wrong, when pretty much everybody else does.
He does not see anything wrong, when pretty much everybody else does.
This is very clever by Ferrari.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/...-verstappen-move-goes-unpunished/6795327/amp/
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/...-verstappen-move-goes-unpunished/6795327/amp/
Has will every driver, if they see Max get away with it, every driver will do it and rightly say, well Max did it.
To give Max no penalty would be sending out the wrong message.
max quickest in FP1 - not sure how relevant that will be given FP1 was daytime heat and quali / race is dusk plus of course drivers still learning the circuit and teams trying to dial the car in ... but it wasnt merc blasting the field away at a second a lap... keeping things interesting at least
Totto and Horner press conference for the Qatar GP.
You can tell there is respect there, but thats it.
Horner clearly thinks something is wrong with the Mercedes car, but went just short of saying it outright.
You can tell there is respect there, but thats it.
Horner clearly thinks something is wrong with the Mercedes car, but went just short of saying it outright.
No review in to Max, full expected it and it sends out the wrong message to the rest of the grid.
Horner clearly thinks it is right, Totto fully expected it.
I expect to see more of what Max did.
Horner clearly thinks it is right, Totto fully expected it.
I expect to see more of what Max did.
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I think that will light a fire under Merc again, but Toto saying that their whole reason for requesting a review was to get people talking about it. If max does something remotely similar this weekend, there’ll be huge pressure on the stewards. And that’ll be in Max’s mind when/if it comes to defending
This part certainly sticks out...
If this is allowed, then overtaking around the outside is going to be very difficult
And I think we all expect penalities for anything approaching what he did. They need to clear this up fast. Is the new standard if you have the inside line you are free to push off the driver on the outside or force them to back off. Can you do that same move with a wall on the outside?
Red Bull need to put up or shut up, if they think the wing ,engine is illegal, make it official.
To bitch and moan after every race, just looks like sour grapes.
Challenge it and let the FIA do what they need to do.
I have no doubt that, no team would come with illegal parts, there is way to much checking and scrutiny.
To bitch and moan after every race, just looks like sour grapes.
Challenge it and let the FIA do what they need to do.
I have no doubt that, no team would come with illegal parts, there is way to much checking and scrutiny.
It's really quite sad, I was never a fan of Red Bull in the first place but Horner's constant whining and Max's overly aggressive driving has really made me hate that team. Really hope they bottle it.
Also is ridiculous how the footage of Max's onboard isn't "significant".
Will be interesting to see how much more aggressive some drivers are this weekend.
I forsee the likes of Alonso to really push the limit now.
I forsee the likes of Alonso to really push the limit now.
Horner still bleating about Silverstone , FFS man let it go.
He is taking the shine off the season , Mercedes are faster then RB and have been since Silverstone and he is saying in not so many words, they are cheating.
He is taking the shine off the season , Mercedes are faster then RB and have been since Silverstone and he is saying in not so many words, they are cheating.
If the Mercs are faster than RB this weekend, RB will be protesting the Merc, Horner has just confirmed that.
That's a timely name to drop. F1 just posted that scrap between Alonso and Hamilton a few GPs back. Alonso really is a master of making his car wide. Now it's going to be ultra wide.
Will he be taking his ball home as well?
I've never partiularly been a Hamilton fan for some reason (best car most of the time stuff like that) but I really hope he wins it this year now. Max is heading into Schumacher territory of win at all costs even being dangerous whenever needed so I hope he grows up soon. He is being badly led by Horner and it shows.
Hamilton's display last weekend was superb and might have converted me. No bitching about everything not going his way just foot down and produce the goods.
F1 has become even more of a joke than it ever was under Bernie. SPA now this. Fecking joke of a championship now. Said they couldn't do anything without the right evidence, and now that they have it they aren't doing anything because, well, they said they couldn't do anything when they didn't have the evidence.
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FIA proved to be incompetent, shock.
Max is Max, that is who he is. Nothing to do with Horner. He's always been brave and aggressive.
Is it any wonder why Max drives like a madman? He never seems to be punished for it, mainly because the other drivers are forced to get out of his way.
That has to be a joke surely ?
He's being enabled by Horner it'c clear as day.
This is allegedly what Horner is talking about:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEZOuBWWQAEFtda?format=jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEZOuBWWQAEFtda?format=jpg
Let Red Bull cry, they are just reverting to type.
So no more overtaking round the outside then.
So inconsistent considering the punishment Lewis got at Silverstone.
Terrible decision. Demolition Derby awaits...
Can a driver then push another car into the pit lane? 
Wouldnt like to be the former employee of merc who is now at red bull (as there cant be many who have gone from one to another this year) as I suspect he must have signed some NDA's
good article to revist here
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...alking-about-them.3NeugNG480UtFMzy77XKiQ.html
So realistically even if Red Bull complain and the FIA think they have point the likley outcome is that they announce a new test for wings
Likley that red bull complain this weekend and will be looking at evey bit of footage and *** to support a claim so that if they are successful merc have to redesign their wing for the last 2 gp's
merc however may be confident that what they are doing is legal and that either the FIA will not have a problem with it or that the wing will pass any additional tests
It’s annoying that F1 needs a new champ to break up the Hamilton dominance and it’s going to be these smeglords.
Even when they announced the new tests for the wing flex earlier in the season they gave a few races notice didn’t they? I don’t see how this gets solved before the end. I think this track is a RB one though so it may all be irrelevant if max wins Sunday anyway. Horner has said he doesn’t think it’ll have much impact here - it’s the final two races where they’re expecting Mercedes to be unraceable.
It already feels inevitable that Merc will punished for whatever RB moan about 
It already feels inevitable that Merc will punished for whatever RB moan about
Yeah, Horner and Verstappen might as well be the FIA. Hate the pair of them, smug pricks.
Can a driver then push another car into the pit lane?
Would be great if Bottas pushes Max down there.Never watch any of the FP sessions but thought I’d take a peak at FP2. This track looks pretty even for the cars. Some fast sweeping corners and not actually too many straights.
I’m failing to see any overtake spots though. I fear this race could be a procession, unless some intriguing tyre strategy comes into play.
I’m failing to see any overtake spots though. I fear this race could be a procession, unless some intriguing tyre strategy comes into play.
Or when Schumacher won the title in 94 or the other title senna won with a collision. Selective facts don't help