I hope the Red Bull breaks down every race that Max is there. Never met a more self righteous hypocritical cnut of a duo than Horner and his ego.
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It's pretty telling that the usual Max defenders haven't been out in force this week.
I must say I'm quite shocked by the level of surprise in here. To me it was pretty obvious they weren't going to change the "on field" decision made at the track. It was the wrong decision made but there's nothing significantly new to have them overturn the decision of the stewards. Stewards messed up and hopefully it won't happen again
Horner on Sky again , going on about the straight-line speed of the Mercedes.
Sick of hearing him moan about it.
Grow a set and put a protest in.
He is all but saying they are cheating, time to put his claims to the test.
I can see this WC being decided after the Final race in the courts.
Sick of hearing him moan about it.
Grow a set and put a protest in.
He is all but saying they are cheating, time to put his claims to the test.
I can see this WC being decided after the Final race in the courts.
Each and every team and their drivers should be entitled to do exactly as Max has done. And that spells danger and so the FIA really do have to stop sitting on their hands and take back control.
Have to say that this would also make me smile.
Any respect for Max and his RB team has been completely eroded.
I just hope that this will energiese Lewis to win the last 3 races. To quote Kevin Keegan, I would luv it.
Take back control of our borders (track limits)
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Good post
Agree with the others, good post. I do however disagree with Max cruising. It's a race at the end of the day and if they did go back for a 5-second penalty it's his own damn fault for not racing. My perspective anyhow
do I detect some rear wing flex there...
I think it's clear that the FIA don't tend to review sporting decisions from the race or on track. They only tend to have a review of decisions / uphold decisions of technical reasons more than sporting ones. I think they're creating a rod for their own back based on the original decision though in that we're seeing drivers now (Leclerc) making statements that they'll change their driving style if this is the precedence set in the decision making process by running drivers on the outside wide during overtakes. Either way the FIA don't come out of this smelling of roses.
I think we'll see a different race steward approach to this weekend though, everything will be done by the book when it comes to sporting decisions on track. The embarrassment of not having the footage to access to make the decisions won't be an excuse we see this weekend.
I think we'll see a different race steward approach to this weekend though, everything will be done by the book when it comes to sporting decisions on track. The embarrassment of not having the footage to access to make the decisions won't be an excuse we see this weekend.
Strange. Although I can’t see how that is aerodynamically efficient.
I believe it was a problem they had during FP2. They worked on it during the session and fixed it I think
I wouldn't mind a new champ. But Red Bull and Max are insufferable. Horrible entitled pricks the lot of them.
I expect toto wolf is looking for duct tape
The FIA seems to have already chosen their champion.It already feels inevitable that Merc will punished for whatever RB moan about
Errrrm.
I already made a funny (in my mind) joke although no one gave me credit
Qatar FP Timings
Qatar GP Practice One Timesheet
Qatar GP Practice Two Timesheet
| Driver | Team | Time |
|---|---|---|
| 1) Max Verstappen | Red Bull | 1:23.723 |
| 2) Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | +0.437 |
| 3) Valtteri Bottas | Mercedes | +0.471 |
| 4) Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | +0.786 |
| 5) Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | +0.925 |
| 6) Carlos Sainz | Ferrari | +0.990 |
| 7) Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | +1.067 |
| 8) Sergio Perez | Red Bull | +1.192 |
| 9) Esteban Ocon | Alpine | +1.249 |
| 10) Lando Norris | McLaren | +1.492 |
| 11) Daniel Ricciardo | McLaren | +1.568 |
| 12) Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | +1.605 |
| 13) Nicholas Latifi | Williams | +1.965 |
| 14) Antonio Giovinazzi | Alfa Romeo | +2.034 |
| 15) Kimi Raikkonen | Alfa Romeo | +2.105 |
| 16) George Russell | Williams | +2.148 |
| 17) Fernando Alonso | Alpine | +2.182 |
| 18) Mick Schumacher | Haas | +2.976 |
| 19) Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | +2.989 |
| 20) Nikita Mazepin | Haas | +3.777 |
Qatar GP Practice Two Timesheet
| Driver | Team | Time |
|---|---|---|
| 1) Valtteri Bottas | Mercedes | 1:23.148 |
| 2) Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | +0.209 |
| 3) Max Verstappen | Red Bull | +0.350 |
| 4) Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | +0.422 |
| 5) Lando Norris | McLaren | +0.484 |
| 6) Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | +0.557 |
| 7) Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | +0.587 |
| 8) Sergio Perez | Red Bull | +0.639 |
| 9) Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | +0.872 |
| 10) Carlos Sainz | Ferrari | +0.885 |
| 11) Esteban Ocon | Alpine | +0.893 |
| 12) Fernando Alonso | Alpine | +0.908 |
| 13) Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | +0.947 |
| 14) Daniel Ricciardo | McLaren | +0.987 |
| 15) Kimi Raikkonen | Alfa Romeo | +1.483 |
| 16) George Russell | Williams | +1.806 |
| 17) Antonio Giovinazzi | Alfa Romeo | +1.924 |
| 18) Nicholas Latifi | Williams | +2.061 |
| 19) Mick Schumacher | Haas | +2.427 |
| 20) Nikita Mazepin | Haas | No time set |
You did well.I already made a funny (in my mind) joke although no one gave me credit
Where has this performance from Gasly come from lately?
Either the car has stepped up massively or he's riding some mega form. He's looked mega in the last 3/4 races.
Either the car has stepped up massively or he's riding some mega form. He's looked mega in the last 3/4 races.
He is and has always been an incredibly talented driver. That’s why he got his promotion into the RB seat when he did.
However unfortunately he didn’t appear to be able to handle the higher pressure that comes with being in a top team. Perhaps he didn’t receive a long enough chance. Perhaps that environment is genuinely not meant for him. But regardless when he is relaxed he’s really very good.
what I find daft is that Horner really thinks the Merc wing is illegal, there is no way any team would drive with such a wing, with intention of cheating, there is far too much scrutiny.
I am not saying that Mercedes have not found a way to change things within the rules, maybe bending them, have RB not done the same in the past ?
But out and out cheating and that is what he is hinting at, then no I cant believe that.
I am not saying that Mercedes have not found a way to change things within the rules, maybe bending them, have RB not done the same in the past ?
But out and out cheating and that is what he is hinting at, then no I cant believe that.
I believe Horner is a terrible man manager unless you are his number one. Toxic environment for any young, up and coming driver.
Mate I’ve long gotten past the stage of listening to anything he says. I pay no attention to him and my life is better for it.
He has always been a good driver, maybe his time at Red Bull came a tad to soon.
Maybe Horner was part of the problem, maybe it was Max, but since leaving RB I think he has improved.
I hear you, he is just annoying the hell out of me.
Taking the shine of what is a very good season.
A bit late to the conversation but it was disappointing that max didnt even get a warning for turn 4 last weekend after the stewards reviewed the new footage but it is what it is.
Leclerc said max's defending last weekend will be brought up in the drivers briefing with michael masi this weekend before the gp especially in regards to moves around the outside and being given the correct amount of space as per the rules.
Not seen any of FP1 or FP2, reading the comments on here about horner makes me think he is panicking.
Leclerc said max's defending last weekend will be brought up in the drivers briefing with michael masi this weekend before the gp especially in regards to moves around the outside and being given the correct amount of space as per the rules.
Not seen any of FP1 or FP2, reading the comments on here about horner makes me think he is panicking.
It will be difficult for the FIA to punish a driver blocking anyone on the outside for the rest of the season now.
This may go against Red Bull if the Mercedes engine / drag advantage is enough to overtake in DRS zones. The car in front can do what they want to cover the outside while taking the inside line, so the only way to overtake is get in front on the straights.
This may go against Red Bull if the Mercedes engine / drag advantage is enough to overtake in DRS zones. The car in front can do what they want to cover the outside while taking the inside line, so the only way to overtake is get in front on the straights.
Don't be so sure. Max has consistently gotten away with things other drivers have been punished for.
His red bull car was a dog iirc
To be honest does anyone really expect them not to punish the next person who does exactly what Max does?
It's not Max's action that was legal, it was Max who's nonpunishable for TV ratings.
There's probably a desire for max to become the champion from within the FIA. Hes young, will probably attract a new audience etc etc.
Theres also probably a desire from somewhere in FIA not to have lewis win more WDC that schmacher.
They've to manage that engine to last for the last 3 race. Too much of a gamble to risk changing to a new one and getting hit with a grid penalty unless they know they'll be so dominant in a track like how Mercedes was at Sau Paolo.
It has nothing to do with TV ratings, it's been clear for a few years now that Max is being treated with a separate rulebook from the rest.
F1 needs a new champion and they've seemingly decided that Max is their golden boy.
Verstappen makes me not want to watch F1 at all.
Lewis isn't much better either. 2 of the biggest cry baby drama queens ever.
It is strange given the intense scrutiny the whole issue has had with everyone from the global media to armchair fans searching every frame from every camera angle available.
The FIA spent enough time examining the thing last week too. If Mercedes are pushing any technical boundaries, which teams obviously do, there's clearly no obvious transgression, like Horner is implying. It must be very subtle.
I think Horner being suspicious is fine and even Toto said that part of the job is to make sure the opponents don’t get unfair advantage but I feel the way he is going about it is so annoying . If you have doubts then just come out and complain so that they can be cleared. This constant badgering is a very poor look for the sport and undermines everyone associated with the FIA
Appears they still haven't been able to fix it. Weird problem to have, a wing flapping like that can only cost time