some spinning on lap 1, too wet for slicks too dry for inters.
F1 2021 Season
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Lewis flying in Q1, .44 ahead of Max, but that will change.
OUT IN Q1
16) Daniel Ricciardo, McLaren
17) Nicholas Latifi, Williams
18) Antonio Giovinazzi, Alfa Romeo
19) Kimi Raikkonen, Alfa Romeo
20) Nikita Mazepin, Haas
16) Daniel Ricciardo, McLaren
17) Nicholas Latifi, Williams
18) Antonio Giovinazzi, Alfa Romeo
19) Kimi Raikkonen, Alfa Romeo
20) Nikita Mazepin, Haas
Q2 starts with many on the mediums.
OUT IN Q2
11) Sebastian Vettel, Aston Martin
12) Esteban Ocon, Alpine
13) George Russell, Williams
14) Mick Schumacher, Haas
15) Carlos Sainz, Ferrari (No time set)
11) Sebastian Vettel, Aston Martin
12) Esteban Ocon, Alpine
13) George Russell, Williams
14) Mick Schumacher, Haas
15) Carlos Sainz, Ferrari (No time set)
Given Hamilton is so strong here, I wonder why they took the penalty here.
I can see why, new engine , this track is good for passing, I still see Lewis getting on the podium, so maybe damage limitation.
Five minutes to go in Q3, and Lewis Hamilton has just emerged out on track on his own...
All other drivers still in the pits.
All other drivers still in the pits.
Hamilton goes fastest with a great lap It's a 1:22.868, new track record
The Red Bulls in white just look strange.
Bottas on Pole.
Lewis looks really fast, the race is looking like it could be excellent.
Lewis wont have it all his own way , the merc in dirty air is not always that good.
Max will not be happy, he would have wanted to be in front on Bottas.
Lewis looks really fast, the race is looking like it could be excellent.
Lewis wont have it all his own way , the merc in dirty air is not always that good.
Max will not be happy, he would have wanted to be in front on Bottas.
Mercs clearly faster and other than maybe Leclerc, Hamilton should be easily able to get through. Norris was a second slower! Perez as usual nowhere.
Lewis free to start on his choice of tyres, mediums seem like the best for the race, maybe he will go soft to start, hammer time then switch to mediums later.
Mercs again the fastest cars on the track by far. Leclerc did well. He's got the upgraded engine doesn't he? Surprised McLaren were so poor. Not surprised Perez was poor as he always is.
Do you know the reason for the change?
I understand that. However, the way I see it is this - he has been dominant here enough to have a great chance of winning. The points gap between 1st and 2nd is 7 points, whereas the gap in points decreases between positions if you go further down.
I understand he has a great pace and it’s a good track to overtake but realistically he probably wouldn’t catch Bottas or Verstappen. Let’s assume Max wins for the sake of the argument and Lewis makes it back to second. He loses 7 points. Conversely Lewis doesn’t take the penalty and finishes first - he gains 7 points.
However if they took it on a track where he is already worse than Max because it favours RB, even if he finishes 6th, he would lose 10 points compared to second. Basically, to lose out the 7 points he is always scheduled to lose, he is better off doing so on a track he is worse at.
Let’s say Lewis takes the penalty here, comes second. Then the next track favours red bull, so he comes second anyway. That ends up as -14.
Let’s say he doesn’t take it here and wins. He goes into the next race which favours red bull at +7. He then takes the penalty at that track. To get to the same net position. (-14), and assuming Max wins, he would need to place only 8th to equal a net position of -14.
Homage to Honda I think.
Botas to ram max in the 1st turn... Lewis to come home on the podium with a new engine
Much appreciated.
After his post qualification interview It's much more likely he rolls the red carpet for Max.
It's a reference to the 1965 Honda car that brought Honda their first F1 win ever.
Yep they're doing it this weekend as this was meant to be the Japanese grand prix - it's an homage to the cars in the 60s when Honda first joined F1 and a way of saying farewell.
Turkish GP Qualifying Result
Turkish GP Qualifying Timesheet
| Driver | Team | Time |
|---|---|---|
| 1) Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | 1:22.868 (has 10-place grid penalty) |
| 2) Valtteri Bottas | Mercedes | +0.130 |
| 3) Max Verstappen | Red Bull | +0.328 |
| 4) Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | +0.397 |
| 5) Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | +0.458 |
| 6) Fernando Alonso | Alpine | +0.609 |
| 7) Sergio Perez | Red Bull | +0.838 |
| 8) Lando Norris | McLaren | +1.086 |
| 9) Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | +1.437 |
| 10) Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | +1.500 |
| Out in Q2 | ||
| 11) Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | 1:24.795 |
| 12) Esteban Ocon | Alpine | 1:24.842 |
| 13) George Russell | Williams | 1:25.007 |
| 14) Mick Schumacher | Haas | 1:25.200 |
| 15) Carlos Sainz | Ferrari | No time set (engine penalty) |
| Out in Q1 | ||
| 16) Daniel Ricciardo | McLaren | 1:25.881 |
| 17) Nicholas Latifi | Williams | 1:26.086 |
| 18) Antonio Giovinazzi | Alfa Romeo | 1:26.430 |
| 19) Kimi Raikkonen | Alfa Romeo | 1:27.525 |
| 20) Nikita Mazepin | Haas | 1:28.449 |
What did he say?
Thank you for this.
Does anyone think Valteri backed out of the last lap? Max had already finished and was 3rd, so Valteri was on pole, beating Lewis would have done nothing but push Lewis back 1 place.
Think Lewis should be able to the podium. 3rd or even 2nd depending on where bottas is.
I expect max to breeze past bottas on first lap.
I expect max to breeze past bottas on first lap.
Turkish GP
Looks like they’re starting on Inters today
Fairly sure even Bottas expects that
Not sure if that's good news for lewis or not. Cause in the dry the Mercs are rapid, but mixed conditions and no DRS may mean he gets stuck behind someone like Alonso.
Lewis will not like starting on inters, makes his free choice null and void.
Max saying it is perfect for inters.
Lewis will not want a wet race, I dont think he can win a wet race form 11th.
He will want to get on slicks ASAP for the softs.
Lewis will not want a wet race, I dont think he can win a wet race form 11th.
He will want to get on slicks ASAP for the softs.
This should be an epic rain, light rain and track should be able to take slicks pretty soon.
Bottas and Max into turn 1! Lewis fighting to get from 11th, he might take risks.
The winner could well be the first to take the risk and go on slicks.
Not ruling put Norris or Sergio.
Bottas and Max into turn 1! Lewis fighting to get from 11th, he might take risks.
The winner could well be the first to take the risk and go on slicks.
Not ruling put Norris or Sergio.
Alonso spins out turn 1
track looks soaked , it is not drying out anytime soon.
Tsunoda doing a good job so far.
Edit: until now
Edit: until now
Tsunoda holding off Lewis
Lewis should be taking Tsunodo , maybe just biding his time, does not want to make a mistake in the wet, Lewis a few season ago would have been attacking him and getting the overtake done.
The longer he stay behind him , the harder his race will get.
The longer he stay behind him , the harder his race will get.
and there is the overtake, took 7 laps.