That's the guy.
F1 2021 Season
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You won't be saying that next year watching the Max Verstappen Dutch GP 2022No, I got that.But I could imagine F1 prioritizing keeping a track on the schedule (as long as it makes financial sense) because it's the home track of a racer who's a likely WC contestant for the foreseeable future.
Except it's not. I confuse myself.
Just looked it up, was Al Pease at the 1969 Canadian GP.
While looking it up, also came across a guy who paid for a free practice seat, binned the car and was then stuck in the car as he didn't know how to remove the steering wheel so had to stay in the car as it was recovered by the marshalls.
What I'm saying is, Mazepin hasn't quite hit their levels... Yet
Edit: I've found video of the free practice guy and you can see him in the car as it's picked up by the crane
Good thing he won't be moved to any other team ever
Just my thoughts as well, if he was in a McClaren he would have been a massive danger to everyone.
He has to watch doing things like that because he is looking for a lesser team to pick him up. Nobody is going to want a driver who wont follow orders.Bottas just said feck Mercedes
Unless his daddy changes the bank account he sends money to.Good thing he won't be moved to any other team ever
Norris and the reporter losing it on camera
Nice for Verstappen to win here. The hype has been crazy, can imagine that puts a bit of pressure on someone.
Boring race though.
Boring race though.
Very dominant performance by Max and Red Bull. Love to watch a race here with the old F1 cars.
Typical Crashstappen fan
That would be some marketing move!You won't be saying that next year watching the Max Verstappen Dutch GP 2022
there was literally zero over takes that weren’t aided by newer tyres.
the only thing that made this race half watchable was the high degradation.
if they keep coming here in the future they need to make sure they use the softest tyres possible to take away 1 stop strategy.
it wasn’t pitting again which was the issue, it was the fact they put him into traffic.
wait 1/2 laps longer and he’s passed the ricciardo train and flying in free air.
the minute they put him behind other cars completely destroyed the under cut advantage, that’s why he’s annoyed.
he said himself the tyres were fine to keep pushing, they had zero reasons to pit him that early other than they miscalculated it and fecked it up.
Lewis also said Max 'drove a fantastic race' and admitted he 'couldn't get anywhere near him', but I guess those quotes don't fit your agenda.
Only when he wins. "Great job guys, absolutely stunning. Bono, the pit crew, the boys back at the factory, thank you from the bottom of my heart. Couldn't have done it without the amazing team."
Or else its just "fecks sake I said these tires were worn out, I have no grip Bono" etc.
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Everyone has an agenda for some of the hammerheads
True, I’m just hoping with the new cars next year, Ferrari can finally get there act together and offer some real competition to RB and the mercs
I do agree.
I won't lie. I don't like Hamilton so I am an anyone but fan, but I really like Norris.
It's a shame talent like Norris and Leclerc have to rely on teams getting their acts together.
The fact that Merc and Red bull have talent pools, these guys will always find it tough to get a look in, so it needs more competition
To be honest, I root for Hamilton against Verstappen because he's English, but I'm not that huge of a fan of him. Leclerc is my favourite driver.
Massive respect to Lewis this whole weekend.
Two of the most undeserving and untalented drivers I’ve seen in a long while.
He was just bitching and moaning the whole race but in reality his car wasn’t as fast as the Red Bull’s. Just suck it and move on and complain less next time.
This is literally how every driver talks.
When the car is good they're happy, when it's not working well they moan and want more grip or power.
I've heard Max say it constantly, especially last year when he couldn't get close to the Mercs.
Dutch GP Result
| Rank | Driver | Number | Team | Grid | Pits | Fastest Lap | Race Time | PointsPts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Max Verstappen | 33 | Red Bull | 1 | 2 | 1:13.275 | 1:30:05.395 | 25 |
| 2 | Lewis Hamilton | 44 | Mercedes | 2 | 3 | fastest overall lap 1:11.097 | 20.932 behind | 19 |
| 3 | Valtteri Bottas | 77 | Mercedes | 3 | 2 | 1:12.549 | 56.460 behind | 15 |
| 4 | Pierre Gasly | 10 | AlphaTauri | 4 | 1 | 1:14.818 | 1 lap behind | 12 |
| 5 | Charles Leclerc | 16 | Ferrari | 5 | 1 | 1:14.780 | 1 lap behind | 10 |
| 6 | Fernando Alonso | 14 | Alpine | 9 | 1 | 1:14.323 | 1 lap behind | 8 |
| 7 | Carlos Sainz Jnr | 55 | Ferrari | 6 | 1 | 1:15.260 | 1 lap behind | 6 |
| 8 | Sergio Perez | 11 | Red Bull | not available | 2 | 1:13.461 | 1 lap behind | 4 |
| 9 | Esteban Ocon | 31 | Alpine | 8 | 1 | 1:14.675 | 1 lap behind | 2 |
| 10 | Lando Norris | 4 | McLaren | 13 | 1 | 1:14.236 | 1 lap behind | 1 |
| 11 | Daniel Ricciardo | 3 | McLaren | 10 | 1 | 1:14.920 | 1 lap behind | 00 |
| 12 | Lance Stroll | 18 | Aston Martin | 12 | 1 | 1:15.611 | 2 laps behind | 00 |
| 13 | Sebastian Vettel | 5 | Aston Martin | 15 | 2 | 1:13.958 | 2 laps behind | 00 |
| 14 | Antonio Giovinazzi | 99 | Alfa Romeo | 7 | 2 | 1:15.125 | 2 laps behind | 00 |
| 15 | Robert Kubica | 88 | Alfa Romeo | 16 | 1 | 1:15.442 | 2 laps behind | 00 |
| 16 | Nicholas Latifi | 6 | Williams | not available | 1 | 1:15.790 | 2 laps behind | 00 |
| 17 | George Russell | 63 | Williams | 11 | 2 | 1:15.628 | 3 laps behind | 00 |
| 18 | Mick Schumacher | 47 | Haas | 17 | 2 | 1:15.927 | 3 laps behind | 00 |
| not classified | Yuki Tsunoda | 22 | AlphaTauri | 14 | 1 | 1:15.783 | did not finish completed 48 laps | 00 |
| not classified | NikitMazepin | 9 | Haas | 18 | 1 | 1:16.066 | did not finish completed 41 laps | 00 |
Drivers and Constructors after Race 13
| 1 | Max Verstappen | Red Bull | 77 | 224.5 |
| 2 | Lewis HamiltonL | Mercedes | 44 | 221.5 |
| 3 | Valtteri Bottas | Mercedes | 00 | 123 |
| 4 | Lando Norris | McLaren | 00 | 114 |
| 5 | Sergio Perez | Red Bull | 11 | 108 |
| 6 | Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | 00 | 92 |
| 7 | Carlos Sainz Jr | Ferrari | 00 | 89.5 |
| 8 | Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | 00 | 66 |
| 9 | Daniel Ricciardo | McLaren | 00 | 56 |
| 10 | Fernando Alonso | Alpine | 00 | 46 |
| 11 | Esteban Ocon | Alpine | 11 | 44 |
| 12 | Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | 00 | 35 |
| 13 | Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | 00 | 18 |
| 14 | Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | 00 | 18 |
| 15 | George Russell | Williams | 00 | 13 |
| 16 | Nicholas Latifi | Williams | 00 | 7 |
| 17 | Kimi Raikkonen | Alfa Romeo | 00 | 2 |
| 18 | Antonio Giovinazzi | Alfa Romeo | 00 | 1 |
| 19 | Mick Schumacher | Haas | 00 | 0 |
| 20 | Nikita Mazepin | Haas | 00 | 0 |
| 21 | Robert Kubica | Alfa Romeo | 00 | 0 |
| 1 | Mercedes | 4 | 344.5 |
| 2 | Red Bull | 8 | 332.5 |
| 3 | Ferrari | 0 | 181.5 |
| 4 | McLaren | 0 | 170 |
| 5 | Alpine | 1 | 90 |
| 6 | AlphaTauri | 0 | 84 |
| 7 | Aston Martin | 0 | 53 |
| 8 | Williams | 0 | 20 |
| 9 | Alfa Romeo | 0 | 3 |
| 10 | Haas | 0 | 0 |
Brilliantly done by Gasly once again. I'm surprised actually that he's only 8th in the standings. Must be selective memory on my part (only remembering when he ends this high in a race).
Not the best GP to watch. The RBs were ridiculously fast today.
Mercedes should just put Russell in the Mercedes now, bottas is utterly useless. So far off the pace its ridiculous. If Perez hadn't screwed up qually it could have been a RB 1-2 today, they were that good today.
Mercedes should just put Russell in the Mercedes now, bottas is utterly useless. So far off the pace its ridiculous. If Perez hadn't screwed up qually it could have been a RB 1-2 today, they were that good today.
Max/RB very impressive today, extremely strong weekend.
I enjoyed the race in the same way you might enjoy a good 0-0 draw. Potential strategies kept it interesting & the track/crowd was cool.
Hope they can tweak the DRS zones next year to allow closer following. This track seems more aero sensitive than most, as soon as anyone got within 3 secs they suffered badly. New regs should help with that.
Merc are usually very strong at Monza. Should be another close battle next weekend.
I enjoyed the race in the same way you might enjoy a good 0-0 draw. Potential strategies kept it interesting & the track/crowd was cool.
Hope they can tweak the DRS zones next year to allow closer following. This track seems more aero sensitive than most, as soon as anyone got within 3 secs they suffered badly. New regs should help with that.
Merc are usually very strong at Monza. Should be another close battle next weekend.
Wtf?!? Bottas took away fastest lap from lewis. Jesus. Fire the twat already.
Edit: lewis got it on last lap. Bloody hell thay was close. Excellent drive from max. That RB is a brilliant car this year.
Edit: lewis got it on last lap. Bloody hell thay was close. Excellent drive from max. That RB is a brilliant car this year.
he’s had a few early DNFs, some bad strategy calls too. when it all aligns for him though he’s clearly very quick and suited to that car.
You suspect he will be Alpines next target to replace Alonso in 2 years if he keeps it up.
Well put , never thought of it in those terms.
Merc crying over the radio to Bottas to not take fastest lap was the highlight of the race. My god the cringe.
What happened to mazeshit to dnf?
His move on Schumacher at the start of the race was a joke. Mick needs to get the feck out of there ASAP.
If the car is remotely good next season and Mick performs, can see Carlos getting yeeted out.
No idea why smooth operator took that role. He was never going to be anything more than a back up driver to leclerc.
His move on Schumacher at the start of the race was a joke. Mick needs to get the feck out of there ASAP.
If the car is remotely good next season and Mick performs, can see Carlos getting yeeted out.
No idea why smooth operator took that role. He was never going to be anything more than a back up driver to leclerc.
not their finest moment, Bottas told not to go for fastest lap, he asked why, he was pissed and went for the fastest lap, for once actually showed some balls.
I thought they strategy was OK , they tried to do something, it never worked, pit one was slow, lost nearly a second, pit 2 was badly timed, needed to be a lap or 2 later, who knows if they had got them right.
For the first time this season, I can see that RB really have Mercedes rattled.
Yes we know the high and low rake each team are using gives the advantage to RB, along with other changes, but Mercedes are definitely on the back foot.
If not for Baku, Silverstone and Hungary, I’d be well and truly calling this season for Max. He’d arguably be 75 points ahead by now.
I have a feeling that at some point this year, karma will bite merc in the arse.
Either Lewis will get taken out like max did at Hungary or they’ll have an engine blow up like Schumacher at Suzuka in 2006. Too much has gone in their favour.
Agree with you, Max could be well ahead.
I have said it before, but I think Mercedes have given up on the season, maybe it the rule changes, the high rake thing, I am not sure.
Maybe they have something big planned for next season, something to blow the others out of the water, only time will tell.
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