F1 2021 Season
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Are Red Bull the Manchester City of F1? They seem so small time
obviously - but there still 1.30 on the clock enough to get another lap in before the flag drops. just frustrating.
They used to love being the rebel of the paddock, now they are the tattletail.
Not enough time well I don't think so.
Seb was pretty lucky in Q1, only his quick response avoided a big crash
1.10 laps ? 20 seconds to spare, that’s ample if they get a move on.
So cars racing for qualification with 1.5s gaps?
Why can’t they implement something along the lines of a “virtual safety car” type situation whereby you have to stay within x seconds of a delta on your outlap? That would force teams to figure out gapping at the point of sending cars out, rather than a backlog right at the last corner?
What a lap from Max
1:08:9 by Verstappen, not sure anyone is beating that
Crazy lap by Max. Bottas faster than Lewis, not sure how that happened.
In theory yes, but in reality not a chance, 15 cars in a 20 second gap, trying to get clean air.
Top 3 should stay in the same order for the race.
Pit strategy will decide this race,.
Pit strategy will decide this race,.
That Red Bull is just so scintilatingly fast. And Max is so good in quali
Turn 3 really is amazing to watch.
Awesome last lap by Lewis, but not quite enough
Didn’t think Lewis was getting close but fair play. Max looks rapid as always.
That would be Mercedes as red bull are the red bull Leipzig of F1
Absolutely.
Lewis got close, all about T1. Hamilton has to be aggressive again, no point not being at this stage as based on speed Max will walk it on race pace.
Max
Lewis
Bottas
Max and Lewis with cracking last laps.
Looks like the race will be pretty boring, Sky trying to big the race up.
First corner could be interesting, Lewis will get the slipstream going into it.
Lewis
Bottas
Max and Lewis with cracking last laps.
Looks like the race will be pretty boring, Sky trying to big the race up.
First corner could be interesting, Lewis will get the slipstream going into it.
I think tyre management and pit strategy will decide this race.
Lewis well and truly taking the sting out of the Max fans.
His thanks to them, quickly shut them up.
His thanks to them, quickly shut them up.
I suspect it will be boring and processional. Hope not...
If Max is ahead I think it will be, there won't any overtaking on this track. Might come down to getting luck with a SC.
All the hype about this circuit, I get it the Dutch fans deserve a race and it is an amazing atmosphere but the track isn't great in my opinion. The changes they made are most cosmetic than for the show, it's got all the hallmarks for a shite race which isn't ideal after not even getting a race last time out.
There will be 3 sc's for this race, mazepin + 2 others will spin out guaranteed
I would agree however its more than likley we will have a safety car or even a red flag which will mix things up. Mercedes could make life difficult for RB by running bottas short and running lewis long. RB without Perez in the mix will have to react to one of them. Could be a very interesting race.
As a driver the track is epic (even when you play it in F1 game), maybe not for overtaking. The FIA are playing safe this year and moved the DRS point forwards onto the main straight rather than it starting at the banking leading onto the main straight. The track designers think the latter will lead to better overtaking on the main straight but FIA decided to be cautious this year and see what the data provides.
Yeah agreed SC will play a part, almost 100% there will be 1, 2 or 3 SCs along with a red flag.
First SC/Red Flag could be turn 1
I've done a fair few sim races around it in the past, I just find it pretty boring after the first sector in honesty. It's really quick stuff but it lacks something in the middle sector and as much as extending DRS onto the straight would help I don't think the run onto it is good enough to allow for overtaking by T1. In fact its very much like the Stavelot section at Spa which works really well because its leads onto a massive flatout section that has a big braking zone for overtaking, even there its tough and this is much shorter.
Hope it proves me wrong but its a race of attrition and strategy tomorrow rather than on track racing.
I dont disagree on the overtaking. The undulation, off camber corners, relentless pace of the track make it great for drivers to drive. They have all be ravig about the track this weekend saying how more F1 tracks need banking, off camber corners etc.
Every track on the calender will be a different proposition next summer with the new rules. If your coming off the banking 0.1-0.5 second behind the car infront and losing less than 20% off your downforce then over taking on the main straight will be easier as will following on other corners. However thats next years cars.
The track itself is one of the best out there.
It’s a fair point we should wait and see on next years cars but I do think in terms of this track in its current layout they should have thought about an overtaking section, even the lower Formula races have lacked on track overtaking so I don’t think it’s all down to car specs.
Hungary is a good benchmark for where they should go with this layout, it used to be shit and now it usually throws up great races just by tweaking sector 1.
Apparently Max had a DRS problem, cost him 0.15 on his final lap in Q3
Had Max not improved on his final run, Max and Lewis would have set identical lap times. Obviously didn’t happen but still.
Wonder why you would say that?
No honestly for the driving aspect it’s brilliant but that doesn’t always make great racing. My point is it’s 75% there to being a top track on the calendar but if you can’t overtake on it (yet to be proven of course, we find out tomorrow) it doesn’t get near the best circuits.
Amazing fans, great seating placement for atmosphere, top driver, excellent sector 1…..crap from Turn 7 onwards to the last 2 corners.
It's really not, OK the banked turn 3 is special, but that's it, almost no passing places.
But it can be! I’m just surprised they renovated it but didn’t actually add much to improve the racing.
On a massive plus side, gravel traps!
I said the track itself. For current F1 cars it’s not suited.