Good start, if only Grosjean can finish the race.
F1 2018 Season
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Good start, if only Grosjean can finish the race.
Sky are pushing the “luck” angle far to much already.. they never mention the word if Lewis lucks his way to a win which he did last season enough times but because it’s gone against him today it’s like it’s broken some sort of unwritten rule.
Look, I’m not going to sit here and say Ferrari/Vettel didn’t benefit from the safety car, of course they did but Lewis had enough laps after that to make up ground and overtake Seb and in truth a driver error ended all hopes of doing that.
It was a combination of luck and guile from Ferarri. Lucky to get the VSC but clever to take full advantage.
Wolfe blaming software is funny, it's hardly too complicated to work out how much less time is lost in a pit stop during a VSC
Wolfe blaming software is funny, it's hardly too complicated to work out how much less time is lost in a pit stop during a VSC
Yeah you would swear it was a regulation infraction that gave Ferrari the win with the Agenda Sky were pushing
As you said last season they were very quiet when Lewis was having all the luck to win races
The best car/team doesn't always win the race but I think Sky somehow forgot that
Do we have to do the British broadcast being slightly bias to the British driver thing again, Italian media are if not worse when it comes to Ferrari. Sky mention Lewis with his off the track issues and his good luck at times, don’t act like they have ignore it because they don’t.
So Sky are talking about it being unlucky because it is. Lewis was top in practice, top in qualifying and dominated 2/3 of the race. He dominated 90% of the weekend. Only reason it got close was because of the safety car. Seb outsmarted Lewis towards the end and deservingly won. Lewis has enough time to win but didn’t.
So Sky are talking about it being unlucky because it is. Lewis was top in practice, top in qualifying and dominated 2/3 of the race. He dominated 90% of the weekend. Only reason it got close was because of the safety car. Seb outsmarted Lewis towards the end and deservingly won. Lewis has enough time to win but didn’t.
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Yeah Sky need to give it a rest, yes the VSC was a massive stroke of luck for Seb , but it happens.
Lewis did the best thing settle for second and not mess the engine up.
Lewis did the best thing settle for second and not mess the engine up.
I had a terrible last season so pleased to begin in P1!
No doubt Mercedes have the fastest package at this stage, Vettel said he’s driving around some problems they need to iron out in the Ferrari. Kimi had good pace too though so bodes well for the season, even moreso with Ricciardo’s pace on the softs in the final stint.Exactly. You have to be good to stop when the VSC is out.
That felt like the Monaco win Hamilton gave away to Rosberg a couple of years ago in similar circumstances.
I'm not sure how Ferrari must feel after this race, they got 2 cars on the podium along with the win but compared to last season they clearly don't have the quickest car.
Bahrain should be really interesting, I expect qualifying to be a lot closer and should make the race a lot better than what we got to see today.
I'm not sure how Ferrari must feel after this race, they got 2 cars on the podium along with the win but compared to last season they clearly don't have the quickest car.
Bahrain should be really interesting, I expect qualifying to be a lot closer and should make the race a lot better than what we got to see today.
Just watched the race, Vettel very lucky with the VSC but sometimes that's what it takes. Hamilton and Merc are still the team to beat...obviously a quicker car for most of the weekend but seemed to have struggled a bit when behind Vettel....Ferrari need to find a bit more speed otherwise may be another champsnship for the Mercs.
Yeah, Seb was very lucky, but i remember some races where the VSC or even the Safety Car have fecked him up. What comes around goes around
For once I agree , Mercedes feck it up , there was no software bug.Yeah, Seb was very lucky, but i remember some races where the VSC or even the Safety Car have fecked him up. What comes around goes around
One thing I did notice is how bad the Merc handled behind another car, it hated the dirty hot air.
Lewis barely got within DRS of Seb.
Out in from the Merc is a beast of a car, but when not is it, fast yes but maybe , just maybe the Ferrari is better
Pretty much all cars were like this, there were something like 2 clean overtakes in the whole race. Alonso kept Verstappen behind him easily for half the race, and the Bull is over half a second quicker than the McLaren at the moment.
Yeah, think it's too early to draw conclusions about which cars struggle in traffic given everyone did. Just not a good track for overtaking.
F1 cars just don't work at street circuits, but unfortunately they're planning to use EVEN MORE OF THEM.
The most exciting races are always on the wider tracks with plenty of room to attack into a corner without damaging the car.
Probably cheaper to create, so they can flog the races for a higher price. I remember Valencia, looked like they were racing in a car park (although the track at least had some width to it). Imola was a boring race too but at least the setting was nice.
Hamilton: "It's hot in Bahrain. I expect Ferrari to be very strong".
Playing mind games now. The pressure is on Ferrari now after winning yesterday.
Playing mind games now. The pressure is on Ferrari now after winning yesterday.
I noticed Lewis was playing with his steering wheel in the last laps. There was something dodgy in it.
He was just turning down his engine mapping etc, he was right behind Vettel until he overheated then decided to give up.
The rule of 3 engines means you cannot fight until the death anymore.
Fair enough
Yeah nothing dodgy , after the mistake he knew he could not catch him so backed off.
forgot about this , 34 points and 28.33% accuracy on prediction, plenty of room for improvement
Horner moaning again.
http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12...ll-for-restriction-on-qualifying-engine-modes
http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12...ll-for-restriction-on-qualifying-engine-modes
Yeah awful week by everyone - but to be expected with so many unknowns.forgot about this , 34 points and 28.33% accuracy on prediction, plenty of room for improvement
Still worthwhile joining for those who haven't - after the first race you really aren't that far behind: https://gppredictor.com/leagues/join/5aafc23c6cf9c42fd847b470
Yawn. Force India and McLaren complaining about Hass being a carbon copy of Ferrari. I guess this thing wouldn't have happened if Ferrari had lost on sunday.
We can say the same thing about Toro Rosso and Red Bull, but no one complains because it's easier to blame Ferrari for everything.
We can say the same thing about Toro Rosso and Red Bull, but no one complains because it's easier to blame Ferrari for everything.
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It's not blaming Ferrari at all, if there is any infringement then it will likely be Haas at fault but I would imagine the main gripe is at the rules that allow Haas to buy so many Ferrari parts. Also, Toro Rosso aren't copies of Red Bull at all, the rules changed 8 years ago so that Toro Rosso have to design and build their own car completely independently and I would imagine their car is checked thoroughly for any suspicious similarities. The teams are basically asking the FIA to take another look at the Haas car cos it has a lot of similarities with the Ferrari car from last year but since Haas' defence is basically just we copied some of the stuff we saw which is perfectly legal, I doubt there will be any issue unless the rule changes. Certainly no issue for Ferrari.
The big fish is Ferrari in the end, especially if they are gonna have a big season, imo.
Most of the teams who seem to be grumbling are Haas' rivals - Force India, Mclaren etc, with the exception of Christian Horner but he whines about literally everything. There's no need to start getting paranoid just yet.
I am not paranoid. It's just annoying that everyone always sees dodgy things when Ferrari wins.
Who is seeing dodgy things, so far the only person moaning is Horner, he would cause an argument in an empty room.
Except it's sod all to do with Ferrari winning and everything to do with the fact that Haas were in contention for 4th and 5th despite having the smallest budget on the grid and teams questioning whether they have done anything wrong.
Pirelli’s softest tyre compound, the hypersoft, will make its first Grand Prix weekend appearance in Monaco, with F1’s tyre supplier expecting the lap record to tumble…
The pink-walled tyre, described by Lewis Hamilton as the best Pirelli has produced since returning to F1, will be made available along with the ultrasoft and supersoft tyre for May’s race.
While the time delta between the ultrasoft, supersoft and soft is close, the gap between the hypersoft and ultrasoft is much greater. Pirelli predicts a difference of between 0.7s-0.8s per lap in Monaco.
“Monaco is a lot about mechanical grip so a softer tyre will give a big advantage in terms of lap time,” Pirelli racing manager Mario Isola told F1.com. “I have a good expectation that we will have a lap record.”
The current qualifying lap record is 1m 12.178s, which was set by Kimi Raikkonen when the Ferrari driver took pole position for last year’s race.
Each driver must save one set of the hypersofts for the final part of qualifying and keep a set each of the supersoft and ultrasoft for the race. Teams are then free to choose the remaining 10 of their allocated 13 sets for use for the rest of the weekend as they see fit.
Mercedes and Haas were the only teams not to run the hypersofts in pre-season testing, but Isola does not believe that will hamper them in Monaco.
“I don’t think it will be an issue for them," said Isola. ”Monaco is such a unique circuit that teams need to run the hypersoft in practice to assess the level of grip and degradation. It’s difficult to take numbers from other circuits and make a comparison."
The pink-walled tyre, described by Lewis Hamilton as the best Pirelli has produced since returning to F1, will be made available along with the ultrasoft and supersoft tyre for May’s race.
While the time delta between the ultrasoft, supersoft and soft is close, the gap between the hypersoft and ultrasoft is much greater. Pirelli predicts a difference of between 0.7s-0.8s per lap in Monaco.
“Monaco is a lot about mechanical grip so a softer tyre will give a big advantage in terms of lap time,” Pirelli racing manager Mario Isola told F1.com. “I have a good expectation that we will have a lap record.”
The current qualifying lap record is 1m 12.178s, which was set by Kimi Raikkonen when the Ferrari driver took pole position for last year’s race.
Each driver must save one set of the hypersofts for the final part of qualifying and keep a set each of the supersoft and ultrasoft for the race. Teams are then free to choose the remaining 10 of their allocated 13 sets for use for the rest of the weekend as they see fit.
Mercedes and Haas were the only teams not to run the hypersofts in pre-season testing, but Isola does not believe that will hamper them in Monaco.
“I don’t think it will be an issue for them," said Isola. ”Monaco is such a unique circuit that teams need to run the hypersoft in practice to assess the level of grip and degradation. It’s difficult to take numbers from other circuits and make a comparison."
The Ferrari-Haas case.
Actually the first I have read about this.
Just been reading a few things and to me sounds like sour grapes from the team around them.
So what if they have got some stuff from Ferrari , if its with the rules.
Lets see what happens in the next race.
It says Ferrari will use a new aerodynamics in the The Chinese Grand Prix to improve the car when braking and bending.
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-il-nuovo-fondo-della-sf71h-debuttera-gia-in-cina-1020402/
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-il-nuovo-fondo-della-sf71h-debuttera-gia-in-cina-1020402/
Would be great to win again on sunday, but we need to improve. You can't be lucky all the time.
I actually dont think there is that much in it.
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