Anti Lock Brakes. It enables you to accelerate around the corners and turn at the same time without locking it up.
F1 2010
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Anti Lock Brakes. It enables you to accelerate around the corners and turn at the same time without locking it up.
No, the fuel and tyre definitely don't affect the A.I cars, well the tyres do to a small degree. I reckon it's another thing they simply run out of time to do and bodged in.
With the fuel, you can easily see it in action by starting a race with fuel on, then restarting it with fuel off. You can easily see the difference.
With tyres, just sit behind one of the top guys for 20 laps. If they hit gravel, it slows them a touch (artificially again), but they can even go a whole race without pitting on one set.
"Not trying to brag for a Sony game" You Sony nuts really are the worst!Joking aside though, I agree with you and have said it once or twice in this thread. However, I've never really found any F1 games as hard as people say, but then again I do have patience and can handle myself round a track in real life so maybe that all helps.
No, the fuel and tyre definitely don't affect the A.I cars, well the tyres do to a small degree. I reckon it's another thing they simply run out of time to do and bodged in.
With the fuel, you can easily see it in action by starting a race with fuel on, then restarting it with fuel off. You can easily see the difference.
With tyres, just sit behind one of the top guys for 20 laps. If they hit gravel, it slows them a touch (artificially again), but they can even go a whole race without pitting on one set.
Joking aside though, I agree with you and have said it once or twice in this thread. However, I've never really found any F1 games as hard as people say, but then again I do have patience and can handle myself round a track in real life so maybe that all helps.
The problem I find with these games is that they don't try and simulate the difference in driving styles. Those that trail brake and drive overly aggressive can be just as fast as those that take the right lines and drive smooth and consistently.
Something I love about PC sims. If you're not smooth in iRacing your off the track and into a wall. The cars behave like real cars not like they're on rails.
Chosen Vetell as my rival, hopefully I can get his seat on Red Bull. Turned down 2x 6.5m offers from Lotus and HRT and also a 7m from Lotus they want to keep me but I want a better car.
Does anyone know, if you say pick the weaker of the 2 as your rival and beat him, you also inherit a weaker car? With less equipment than your team mate?
Does anyone know, if you say pick the weaker of the 2 as your rival and beat him, you also inherit a weaker car? With less equipment than your team mate?
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It prevents the car from locking up or going beyond the brake threshold under heavy load. When the car locks up, you basically have no control over the steering. You go straight. What ABS does is grips and then releases the brake very quickly so that you don't lock up while maintaining almost '
' maximum braking performance. A car without ABS and a skilled driver will brake better then one with, but its not as easy skill to master.Well yes, but then you don't buy console racing games expecting them to be sims
I think the term "on the rails" is dated now. F1 2010 isn't so much on the rails, as dumbed down a bit too much. As I've always said, it's more of a design decision than actual physics coding these days that define the car's handling.
Again the only thing on consoles that comes close is Forza, it's weight distribution and tyre mechanics are good, however it too isn't without it's problems. However it's easy to switch driving style and make a difference on that. In games like this (F1), you drive one way and that's mostly a brake/turn/drive way, which in real life isn't actually what happens and why it's too easy.
But then we are pretty much debating the same point here and telling each other things we both already know. All we need now is Weaste to pop in to tell us that car's physics calculations are readily available and the circle is complete!
Well yes, but then you don't buy console racing games expecting them to be sims
I think the term "on the rails" is dated now. F1 2010 isn't so much on the rails, as dumbed down a bit too much. As I've always said, it's more of a design decision than actual physics coding these days that define the car's handling.
Again the only thing on consoles that comes close is Forza, it's weight distribution and tyre mechanics are good, however it too isn't without it's problems. However it's easy to switch driving style and make a difference on that. In games like this (F1), you drive one way and that's mostly a brake/turn/drive way, which in real life isn't actually what happens and why it's too easy.
But then we are pretty much debating the same point here and telling each other things we both already know. All we need now is Weaste to pop in to tell us that car's physics calculations are readily available and the circle is complete!
You not played race pro on the 360 lamby?
Even better than forza on purely handling of the cars, FF with the wheel and setups.
But if you get annoyed by bugs in games you may want to stick to Forza.
Coming from the GTR family, Race Pro was always going to do driving great, but all else is a bit shit really. So while I'm a driving merchant, no, I don't bother with it as when I want sim I can just play GTR or any of the other PC sims
We should do a couple of races in the Formula BMW on LFS Redlambs. Its only through the demo though, but its open for all other caftards as well as its free and the car is a hell of alot of fun.
Need to do a couple of days to get a good setup though. At my peak I was doing low 14's on Blackwood.
Need to do a couple of days to get a good setup though. At my peak I was doing low 14's on Blackwood.
I'd love to! Haven't played it in a while, but remember liking it. Unfortunately at the moment I haven't a set up to play it on (my pc space has been severely limited temporarily due to the re-organisation for my second son's impending arrival), but as soon as I get sorted again, it'll be fun
Hey?
It prevents the car from locking up or going beyond the brake threshold under heavy load. When the car locks up, you basically have no control over the steering. You go straight. What ABS does is grips and then releases the brake very quickly so that you don't lock up while maintaining almost '
You can tell I don't drive.Yeah, you can basically bomb into corners a lot more without worrying about having to be smooth in and out.
Comedy tweet from Stephen Hood the chief game designer of F1 2010
Direct your abuse this way twits.... Steve Hood (T4RG4) on Twitter
Finished 8th in Shanghai on normal, wonder if I'm going to receive a new offer after season ends because I'm not going to win much with Virgin.
Yeah, you can basically bomb into corners a lot more without worrying about having to be smooth in and out.
Comedy tweet from Stephen Hood the chief game designer of F1 2010
Direct your abuse this way twits.... Steve Hood (T4RG4) on Twitter
To be fair, asking someone like him why the lighting is shit, the A.I so basic and how come the FF is shocking, is like asking a House scriptwriter why your open heart surgery went wrong.
Amazing amazing qualifying session at HocHockenheim. Was 2nd and 5th through Q1 and Q2. First I managed o get through to Q3 (just been playing long weekends for 3 races now)
Got incredibly lucky in the Q3 as i managed to put in some really good rain beforwe the rain got really really heavy and everyone else started to struggle. Qualified on pole around 4 secs faster than the Webber in 2nd.
Drove without breaking assists as well for the first time (well it's an easy track)
Got incredibly lucky in the Q3 as i managed to put in some really good rain beforwe the rain got really really heavy and everyone else started to struggle. Qualified on pole around 4 secs faster than the Webber in 2nd.
Drove without breaking assists as well for the first time
(well it's an easy track)Chose Hamilton as a rival. Had an option of Alonso, Hamilton and Rosberg (why would I want to move to Mercedes?)
I'm 6th championship on 81 points and my ape resembling (not just by looks) team mate has 1 point and their making me 2nd driver?
Did upgrade their salary from 500k a year to 5.5mil.
Declined it though. Hoping for better.
I'm 6th championship on 81 points and my ape resembling (not just by looks) team mate has 1 point and their making me 2nd driver?
Did upgrade their salary from 500k a year to 5.5mil.
Declined it though. Hoping for better.
Actually I might have made a mistake chosing Hamilton as a rival. He's almost always better than me while Rosberg and Alonso I actually do beat many times. Dam. Stupid choice
Actually I might have made a mistake chosing Hamilton as a rival. He's almost always better than me while Rosberg and Alonso I actually do beat many times. Dam. Stupid choice
I chose Vettel, I have beaten him on a fair few tracks and would love to partner Webber in that Red Bull car, my god are they fast.
i'll be looking to do the same, will check what the champ scores are when the option comes up. When does it come up? Only going into the fourth race of the season in China. 2 wins and a 3rd place so far (Vettel getting the win last time out, fecker didn't pit)
The game that has had more delays than a train into London finally came out.. But it's still not finished.
F1 2010 finally makes it's first bow onto the large stage of joint Xbox, PS3 and PC, after a long running saga involving separate companies playground squabbling, F1 fans patiently waiting, and a release date that was changed as often as the Sugababes lineup.
The game aims to get you into the life of an F1 driver. In the driving seat, when flying around at 200mph, the only communication you have is with your race engineer. There is no commentary on the game, which for some is an added bonus. You can now change various settings on your car whilst driving, similar to real life F1. Wing settings, engine power and even commands for your next pit stop can be adjusted whilst on track, which is a very nice touch, and helps immerse you into the game.
Immersion
Whilst there are many issues at present with the game (which I will get to), immersion certainly isn't one of them. I started my career with Lotus, the historic team which has returned, and I was determined to be their saviour. Which I did.. Sort of, finishing my first race for the team in 14th. Now, to people who have not played the game, it may seem slightly irrelevant - not in the points, not on the podium, not important. But I was extremely pleased. I had been having an epic (as epic as a 14th-15th place battle can be) 5 lap battle with Rosberg, and finally managed to overtake him on the last corner, literally standing up and punching the air when I did so.
Of course, with assists on, down to easy modem, I probably could have won the race. But when a game has truly immersed me, I prefer to make it realistic. And as my next race finishes were 12th, 8th, DNF, 19th, I would say that is pretty much in line with the real Lotus. But then to my greatest hour. Pitting late at Spa, I had managed to outwit the rest of the drivers in waiting for the rain to come. I saw the darker clouds, radioed to the pits for wet tyres, and then made my stop. Then the rain came. Every other driver had to re pit, which pushed me up the field, and the pack trailing in my wake. Sensing Hamilton right behind me, and now with the correct tyres, I increased my engine, lowered downforce to combat the rain... And proceeded to fly off on the next corner. However, I finished the race in 2nd place.
As you can tell, the game sucks you in. You feel a real part of everything. The game looks fantastic, feels amazing, and the sounds are individual to each team. The small details are fantastic on the game.. But there are certain, rather large, glaring errors which stunt this games amazingness.
Bugs, bugs, bugs. Theres a bug which delays you leaving a pit stop if there is a car in the vicinity of you – vicinity being nearest mile.. The cars on track do not match their lap times. You have no way of knowing if you are gaining on the person infront. The cars randomly turn into ghosts, allowing you to crash into them, with no impact.. But then you are on the gravel. Fans of the game are hopeful that this will obviously be rectified via a patch.. But its pretty ridiculous the game was allowed to be released with these ridiculously large and glaring errors.
But weirdly enough.. the game is just brilliant. You really have a sense of acheivement gaining a place tht means nothing, and you have to work for it. The various assists and difficulties mean that you can really tailor this game to exactly whats right for you.
By no means is this game perfect, the glitches are ridiculous, but should a magic patch fix everything.. its going to be pretty close.
Rating – 8/10
Fair Price - £30 (£40 if no issues!)
Alternatively - on my blog, with pictures and everything -
Mullers Gaming Blog
F1 2010 finally makes it's first bow onto the large stage of joint Xbox, PS3 and PC, after a long running saga involving separate companies playground squabbling, F1 fans patiently waiting, and a release date that was changed as often as the Sugababes lineup.
The game aims to get you into the life of an F1 driver. In the driving seat, when flying around at 200mph, the only communication you have is with your race engineer. There is no commentary on the game, which for some is an added bonus. You can now change various settings on your car whilst driving, similar to real life F1. Wing settings, engine power and even commands for your next pit stop can be adjusted whilst on track, which is a very nice touch, and helps immerse you into the game.
Immersion
Whilst there are many issues at present with the game (which I will get to), immersion certainly isn't one of them. I started my career with Lotus, the historic team which has returned, and I was determined to be their saviour. Which I did.. Sort of, finishing my first race for the team in 14th. Now, to people who have not played the game, it may seem slightly irrelevant - not in the points, not on the podium, not important. But I was extremely pleased. I had been having an epic (as epic as a 14th-15th place battle can be) 5 lap battle with Rosberg, and finally managed to overtake him on the last corner, literally standing up and punching the air when I did so.
Of course, with assists on, down to easy modem, I probably could have won the race. But when a game has truly immersed me, I prefer to make it realistic. And as my next race finishes were 12th, 8th, DNF, 19th, I would say that is pretty much in line with the real Lotus. But then to my greatest hour. Pitting late at Spa, I had managed to outwit the rest of the drivers in waiting for the rain to come. I saw the darker clouds, radioed to the pits for wet tyres, and then made my stop. Then the rain came. Every other driver had to re pit, which pushed me up the field, and the pack trailing in my wake. Sensing Hamilton right behind me, and now with the correct tyres, I increased my engine, lowered downforce to combat the rain... And proceeded to fly off on the next corner. However, I finished the race in 2nd place.
As you can tell, the game sucks you in. You feel a real part of everything. The game looks fantastic, feels amazing, and the sounds are individual to each team. The small details are fantastic on the game.. But there are certain, rather large, glaring errors which stunt this games amazingness.
Bugs, bugs, bugs. Theres a bug which delays you leaving a pit stop if there is a car in the vicinity of you – vicinity being nearest mile.. The cars on track do not match their lap times. You have no way of knowing if you are gaining on the person infront. The cars randomly turn into ghosts, allowing you to crash into them, with no impact.. But then you are on the gravel. Fans of the game are hopeful that this will obviously be rectified via a patch.. But its pretty ridiculous the game was allowed to be released with these ridiculously large and glaring errors.
But weirdly enough.. the game is just brilliant. You really have a sense of acheivement gaining a place tht means nothing, and you have to work for it. The various assists and difficulties mean that you can really tailor this game to exactly whats right for you.
By no means is this game perfect, the glitches are ridiculous, but should a magic patch fix everything.. its going to be pretty close.
Rating – 8/10
Fair Price - £30 (£40 if no issues!)
Alternatively - on my blog, with pictures and everything -
Mullers Gaming Blog
Mine came just before Spa, I chose my opponent and now I am on Spa as my next race after choosing which is Belgium which is the 13th race out of 19.
cheers - i would actually love to take Buttons spot at McClaren, but I have heard that there is a bug that crops up where if you beat Button it is Hamilton that gets the boot not Button.
Might look to take Massa's spot at Ferrari; while the RBs look great, I think i would prefer to race for either of the other two.
Yeah, I wanted McLaren or Ferrari or Red Bull but McLaren are both under me in the championship so I couldn't choose them, the only Ferrari was Alonso and I don't want to partner Massa so I went with Vettel as I wouldn't mind partnering Webber with that fast as feck Red Bull. If I was racing Ferrari I would want to partner Alonso and not Massa but I couldn't choose Massa as he is having a shit season.
No way am I going to be able to beat Hamilton damit.
I love the game but
Im debating whether to get this game or not, i liked the ps3 F1 game a couple of years back, is this new one worth it with all the bugs on there?
The sad thing is, the A.I is so lame. Now A.I programming isn't my speciality but I've produced enough to know that racing A.I isn't that difficult, nor is it anything that with a bit of decent code planning can't be scaled easily to meet deadlines.
So to have it so poor that you have to lose it altogether in qualifying, is just utter amateur stuff. It should be so much easier than they've obviously tried (and failed) to make it.
Maybe they should hire Mr Crammond.
Now that would be ideal!
Lambs, go into the Amiga thread and tell me when Paula was surpassed.
I love the game but
i havent had any of those things happen but its still funny
Bugs are annoying but you'll still find the game enjoyable I think. Just remember simple things like don't go into a pit lane when you're asked and you will be less annoyed.
For me it's a strong 8 after three days of continous playing. I'm currently at Catalunya, very tough course but I won't play it until Sunday because I realized I still have Heavy Rain and Red Dead Redemption to complete - won't complete either this weekend but I'm intending on getting more into one of them, then get back to F1 and FIFA. Then there's Dead Rising 2 that also needs my attention. Not going to do much work this weekend, probably.
Don't hire him just let him make his own game. feck me, the GP games were awesome.
I loved the customisation, with adding new teams through editors and stuff. Can you imagine if they let you customise the whole grid with new teams and race an online tournament? In the past you just had to post a hot lap and it worked out that way.
I'm not sure if this has been posted but this is the official response from Codemasters
[All] AI Issues Response - Codemasters Forums
I think it's a load of bull. They try and deflect the criticism by correcting the terms used saying such and such a problem isn't caused by the AI but it's a logic error but it doesn't change the fact that Codemaster for one reason or another delivered to us a broken game.
[All] AI Issues Response - Codemasters Forums
I think it's a load of bull. They try and deflect the criticism by correcting the terms used saying such and such a problem isn't caused by the AI but it's a logic error but it doesn't change the fact that Codemaster for one reason or another delivered to us a broken game.
Crammond is one of the old school greats though, he can squeeze 10 pints of semen out of an empty scrotum, he's that good. It's all about graphics now though, fur coat and no knickers, so he can't do it on his own like he used to do. He needs to have a big team around him, but he seemingly doesn't want it.
GP4 was a nightmare to mod in the early days though, it got better with the community tools but it wasn't a modders dream by any stretch of the imagination.
Other than that the GP gamers were fantastic.
Other than that the GP gamers were fantastic.
Any place in London I could get a Car wheel for the PC at a relatively decent price?
On a totally different topic any place in London I could get United jerseys?
On a totally different topic any place in London I could get United jerseys?
Yeh it was GP2 I modded relentlessly (I made an Audi team, fecking beatiful that car was) and GP3 was good, too, though less amateur-friendly. I knew a guy who raced online with his custom team against other custom teams, but as I said back in those days it consisted of just recording yourself doing a flying lap because there was no proper multiplayer support.