I think that where Carrick has had to play in defence within two seasons, this does indicate the likelihood of injuries among the current defenders. I just think one would be a bit "head in sand" if attributing that simply to chance.
Ezequiel Garay
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I think that where Carrick has had to play in defence within two seasons, this does indicate the likelihood of injuries among the current defenders. I just think one would be a bit "head in sand" if attributing that simply to chance.
Like I said, I'm not opposed to adding some depth. If we were replacing Rio/Vidic then I'd be happy for us to splash out and get it right. For some piece of mind 'cover' its silly money.
We're signing him just like we were signing up Gaitan 
one would assume he's not going to be 6th choice
Cannot see the sense in this at all. Unless we're offloading Vidic...
Amen brother!
If true Im v happy with the signing. He's a good age, coming off an excellent season. I dont pretend to know whats going on behind the scenes so Im not throw a hissy fit over his signing. People doing so havent a clue either.
Im sure all will be revealed in due course....
Yes, which says to me that their abstention on this story means that it is absolutely unfounded.
I apologise for my naivety unreservedly.
He's definitely leaving Benfica. To where, it's yet to be seen.
Is moving Phil Jones to CM that outrageous an idea? Our new manager actually signed Gibson. He wasn't stuck with him, or paid to take him.. He actually signed him!
Yes it is outrageous because as we saw last season, he is quite good defensively in some games when he has a specific task to mark a player but going forward he offers absolutely nothing from midfield. It wouldnt make sense for us to move Jones to CM and buy a CB. Wouldnt it be easier to buy a CM and just keep Jones at CB?
Well there you go, maybe moving Jones higher will be the same
Depends which formation he wants. He might do a 'Barcelona' and have two CB's who are good passers (as I recall, Garay is that) and then a defensive midfielder (Jones) to do the dirty work, with two passers ahead of him as well (Carrick, Kagawa)
Who knows.
Didnt we sort of have the same thing last season? Carrick and Jones in central midfield with either Rooney or Kagawa ahead of them? I mean with your formation you are tweaking it a little bit but not really.
I seriously doubt this story turns out to be true. But still, in January 2006 we all knew we needed a midfielder, especially after Keane left, and many didn't understand why Fergie signed a centerhalf (Vidic) and a left back (Evra). That wasn't so bad after all.
Have to say though, I see very little news regarding Garay. It's that same old story about a 'gentleman's agreement', originating from Portugal months ago, being rehashed for weeks now. Oh, and someone making a connection between a drop in the share price and a supposed signing.
Have to say though, I see very little news regarding Garay. It's that same old story about a 'gentleman's agreement', originating from Portugal months ago, being rehashed for weeks now. Oh, and someone making a connection between a drop in the share price and a supposed signing.
Well, Fergie never played a DM in any formation I can remember. Moyes might want to try it with Jones. But I could obviously be wrong, I don't know Moyes' plans. Garay just seems a strange signing, something would be a bit off with having 6 CB's.
What we played last season:
RVP
Kagawa------Rooney-----Valencia
Carrick------Jones
What you are suggesting:
RVP
Rooney
Kagawa------Carrick
Jones
Am I right?
Not sure if sarcasm...
Gibson is a good player (as he's proven). Just not United standard.
More like:
RVP
Welbeck Valencia
Kagawa------Carrick
Jones
But again I don't actually know, so don't take me for Gospel.
Yes I was just kidding.
Im not having a go at you or anything but thats a 4-4-3 with Welbeck and Valencia on the wings? You do know that Kagawa is an CAM and is going to drift into that position? So eventually we will end up with the formation I first posted. When you are playing with one striker, you absolutely need that link between midfield and your striker. Otherwise the striker has to come deep to get the ball and essentially play a false 9 role.
Probably not which doesn't alter the fact we don't need 6 and we don't need anyone getting in the way of Jones and Smalling getting game time in their proper position, not when we already have 3 top quality experienced CB's.
The only way this makes sense is if we sell Vidic, or maybe loan out Smalling for a season and then bring him back when Rio retires or leaves the club.
I think a full season of first team football at centre half is exactly what Smalling needs now. Very unlikely to happen at United. For his long term prospects with us I think its v important.
Personally, I do not see any chance at all of Smalling being loaned out anywhere. In fact, I don't see any of our centre-halves going anywhere which makes this 'signing' seem all the more peculiar.
If it happens I just hope it's not part of a moving Jones permanently to CM plan.
So there are two positions we really don't need to strengthen CB and CF. While every other position could need improvements we are buying another CB, how does that make sense?
Now all we need to hear is that we are buying Lewandowski for 30m € as well, oh wait that's what Sky Sport News is reporting atm.
I just hope Moyes comes up with a formation that only utilizes strikers and defenders because we won't be having much else next season.
Now all we need to hear is that we are buying Lewandowski for 30m € as well, oh wait that's what Sky Sport News is reporting atm.
I just hope Moyes comes up with a formation that only utilizes strikers and defenders because we won't be having much else next season.
Jones is not a midfield player, certainly, not a quality midfielder. He himself said he see's himself as a CD.
Been house hunting in Manchester apparently,surprised no one as reported seeing him.
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/...united-is-big-in-portugal-they-say-he-s-house
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/...united-is-big-in-portugal-they-say-he-s-house
Nobody knows who he is.
Is Garay any good? Only seen the odd game for Benfica, but not enough to form any sort of opinion on him
I'd wager he's no better than our backups so it would be a pointless signing but I suppose the club must have have some reasoning behind the deal if it does happen (which I don't think it will)
If you believe paper/twitter rumours, we're after at least two midfielders. Why believe paper/twitter rumours that we're after a defender and a striker and ignore the ones that say we're after midfielders?
With his age and the fact that he's not even like an exceptional talent or something, this transfer seems very strange if it's really happening
This rumour is the one nobody cares about or wants and yet its totally refusing to die.
A bit of hindsight there...
We actually needed a back-up winger at the time, and Young seemed a fairly reasonable option, as I recall.
We certainly did need a back up for the left. I was very underwhelmed when his signing was confirmed though, especially as it was the summer we were linked with Sanchez. I've just never been a fan of Young, and £18million was a huge amount to pay for a player of his standard.
So what about the Italian defender we got linked with last night, the one that sounds like an expensive cup of coffee? Surely we wouldn't buy two CB's, one seems pointless enough.
Sign him!
His agent is Mendes isn't it? Maybe the Bebe money wasn't quite enough to get us Ronaldo back.
Hey! Don't compare him to Bebe, from what my sources tells me this one has never not had a home.
And he doesn't know what a cardboard box is.
And he doesn't know what a cardboard box is.