This makes very little sense.
Ezequiel Garay
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What the hell is this? We have 5 CB and Keane looks very promising. Another CB doesn't make sense at all.
It's a strange one. But maybe him and Vidic will form a stunning partnership.
Not fair on the Younger lads or Rio though.
Not fair on the Younger lads or Rio though.
I'm hoping this is just a mistake and its actually Matic we've negotiated for.
Hell I'd settle for them getting their Benfica players name starting with G wrong and it's Gaitan.
Interesting. Seems like a lot of money spent on an area that we seem to be stacked with.
Would love to have known your thoughts when we signed Vidic and Evra.
Maybe no need to being quite so dramatic?
We're signing a player for every position bar GK. A fullback, a center back, a midfielder, a winger and a forward.
at some of the reactions here.I expect these summer's targets are all organised by Sir Alex - I doubt Moyes will have objected to any of those plans on his first day at Carrington (a day well before he actually takes over).
So therefore I wouldn't be surprised at a strong go at a striker (Lewandowski?) but a central-midfielder? No - we'd be foolish muppets to ignore our history in that regard; that's not a position United care about.
Good news if true imo. Havent seen much of Matic tho, but many of u's are sayin we should be goin for him instead - maybe Chelsea are after him or his transfer would be way too much. Fergie seems to have been after Garay for a good few years, so i wont argue with that!
Although i wish we had of got Varane the other season, that lads gonna be world-class in a season or two. We were heavily linked with him until Zidane got talkin to him - feck u Zidane!
Jones & Smalling are unproven at Centre-back & have looked dodgy many times & most certainly not the commanding figures of Rio & Vida. You might say those two are for the future tho & i'd agree, but next season is gonna be massive with all the merry-go-round of managers & the spending thats gonna be done, that we need an extra experienced commanding CB.
We looked well shakey at the back so many times last season & of course alot of that is to do with the need for us to have some steel in mid-field (please God i hope Strootman or someone of that box-box style comes in or two of them) to protect the defence along with Carrick.
Still think we should go for Baines aswell. Evra, although he had a much improved season, isnt as good as Baines & the club doesnt stand still for anyone. Evras been linked away anyway, so Baines would be a perfect replacement & an improvement in both goin forward & defending more importantly.
Anyway, its silly-season so just let the silly-buggers sort it out what they think we need for next season & the future also. I'd just feckin love if we got two tough centre-midfielders in - that can play ball of course, above all else.. I think we're sick of this tired old conversation about mid-field strengthening!!
Although i wish we had of got Varane the other season, that lads gonna be world-class in a season or two. We were heavily linked with him until Zidane got talkin to him - feck u Zidane!
Jones & Smalling are unproven at Centre-back & have looked dodgy many times & most certainly not the commanding figures of Rio & Vida. You might say those two are for the future tho & i'd agree, but next season is gonna be massive with all the merry-go-round of managers & the spending thats gonna be done, that we need an extra experienced commanding CB.
We looked well shakey at the back so many times last season & of course alot of that is to do with the need for us to have some steel in mid-field (please God i hope Strootman or someone of that box-box style comes in or two of them) to protect the defence along with Carrick.
Still think we should go for Baines aswell. Evra, although he had a much improved season, isnt as good as Baines & the club doesnt stand still for anyone. Evras been linked away anyway, so Baines would be a perfect replacement & an improvement in both goin forward & defending more importantly.
Anyway, its silly-season so just let the silly-buggers sort it out what they think we need for next season & the future also. I'd just feckin love if we got two tough centre-midfielders in - that can play ball of course, above all else.. I think we're sick of this tired old conversation about mid-field strengthening!!
Thats because City & Chelsea were actually better than United & should have won the League, but we had Fergie apparantly... So we need a massive transformation to a title winning team that won by a canter last season..
Cant feckin win with the media when it comes to United...
my guess is you've not really followed the progress or development of either player?
these throwaway statements when it comes to transfer season are excellent. it's all about the 'shiny new toy'. keep the broadstroke remarks coming!
I know I'm being "over the top", perfectly aware of that.
It's just that this makes no sense what so ever...none...from no possible viewpoint can I take this transfer seriously...we have more than enough CBs, both young and older, the supposed fee is way too much for my liking given the situation, and all in all like I said it just doesn't make sense.
Now ok, yes I didn't really mean the "feck you before you come here" part as I'm willing to support any and every United player, but I'd honestly be very dissapointed if this turned out to be true, it's just not worth it.
Oh and about that...if I recall neither of the 2 cost as much, nor were their acquisitions a direct sign that one of our key figures might be heading out or not be in the manager's plans next season.
Some of you are such irritating, crybaby twats, it's unbelievable.
well aren't you a jar of sunshine
There's no crybabying, it's just common sense that £17M for a 6th CB is stupid.
And there are no youtube compilations of him defending, this is way beyond frustrating.
They should read the caf and they'd realise that Fergie was the reason we lost all the games we did. If it wasn't for SAF, Phelan, Anderson, Nani, and Rooney (who was apparently fatter and shitter than Anderson) we would have won every game and every competition. Actually, let's not forget the start of the season when people were pissing themselves at the thought of Carrick being our main midfielder and the fact that a lot thought De Gea was a lemon.
Never fear though, If we sign this Garay lad, he can be the reason why we win stuff but are still shite.
Well considering Rio's age and that this season might be his last(god forbid) and Vidic not playing as much as he used to, it might not be that bad a signing.
Shoot me now
We've been told that we're about to sign Garay about 6 times now. That doesnt mean it wont happen, but clearly you should calm down and see if it actually materialises this time because nothing came of it any other time we "signed" him
If we are signing him there is surely something we don't know about the plans for the existing CB's. I am anxious to know what is going on with the ones we have here.
Is there something permanent about Smalling's injuries?
The med staff thinks that Vida's knee injury will trouble him going forward?
We bought a back-up RB and Fabio is coming up, will this mean that Jones won't be floater any longer and will get a permanent spot at CM?
We can't go into the season with six CB's, surely.
Is there something permanent about Smalling's injuries?
The med staff thinks that Vida's knee injury will trouble him going forward?
We bought a back-up RB and Fabio is coming up, will this mean that Jones won't be floater any longer and will get a permanent spot at CM?
We can't go into the season with six CB's, surely.
We have two CD's in their 30s and two in their early 20s.
Evans is the only player in the 25-30 bracket.
Bringing in Garay fills a gap between veterans who can't play every week and players that lack maturity.
Evans is the only player in the 25-30 bracket.
Bringing in Garay fills a gap between veterans who can't play every week and players that lack maturity.
Nah.
Firstly, I won't believe we've signed Garay until I've placed my hands in the wounds in his side.
Secondly, your argument is an unconvincing rationalization of something that makes no sense whatever. We've just contracted with Rio for another year. Vidic is 31, and now fully recovered from a serious injury, with several good years left. We've got 3 extremely promising young CBs who can use Rio and Vidic's remaining seasons to learn and perfect their trade. All that goes in the toilet if we sign Garay.
Conclusion: this signing is some kind of mass hallucination and proves we're under the influence of aliens. (KingEric7 may be able to shed some light on what's going on)
I don't think we'll sign him, last year it was Gaitan this year it's Garay for United's completely pointless signing from Benfica tabloid filler. Benfica need money so they'll try to cast some attention upon their players and Garay may well end up leaving but it won't be to United I think.
None of The Telegraph, The Guardian or The Independent have ran with this story today. I take a little comfort from that.
Against the best opposition, Ferdinand and Vidic would probably still be the first choice. Or at least, one of Ferdinand and Vidic with Evans. I get the feeling that Evans with one of the other CBs is not considered the ideal choice. Hence the need for a top quality CB. Perhaps Garay is that.
But if you give Jones or Smalling games or let them play in big games, how will they learn?
(Not to you specifically) This is different from the striker situation we have last year, so comparing this situation with the RVP one is not exactly right either. We have Hernandez and Welbeck, while Berbatov was destined to leave since he had a year in his contract and Rooney was playing CAM behind the striker. So getting another striker wasnt completely out of the question. And if our medical team have done such a good job with Rio over the last couple of years, then whats to say they can do the same with Vidic. And he is only 31, which means he has at least 2-3 good years left in him.
According to the Daily Mail. Everyone needs to calm down.
I guess at the end of the day if United buy another central defender then they must have a good reason too and all we can do is reason out why. For United, £15-20m is a major outlay for a player and the reasoning I've given in my previous post would be my justification.
That doesn't mean anything.
Players are often told to deny rumours until the buying club(s) is/are good and ready.
We won't sign him. Makes absolutely no sense at all and he's not even that good. I'd rate Smalling and Jones higher
You know that for a fact?
For half-a-dozen seasons United supporters have been pulling their hair out because Ferguson has reinforced for every position except where the supporters believe we needed reinforcement - the midfield.
You can't go by anything. Where did I say that Spanish reports were trustworthy? Until you hear it from the horse's mouth (the player and clubs involved) then it's all conjecture.
£17million is ridiculous money to "fill in a gap"
We're severely lacking in the midfield department, any considerable investments should be made there first before we splurge out on players to provide backup for saturated positions. But again I've been saying the same thing for about 3-4 seasons now..
Goodness, how NAIVE are you?
The status of the "broadsheets" (although only the Telegraph remains so) is no longer that of responsible news reporting when it comes to football. These 'papers indulge in just as much unsubstantiated rumour and conjecture as the "tabloids".
Central defence is not saturated if you take into consideration the injuries that have afflicted the players in the past two seasons.
Perhaps you have forgotten one M. Carrick having to play centre-half? Did you perchance ask on those occasions "how is it that we have to play Carrick when we have at least five central defenders in the squad"? I guess not...
To be fair that was some serious bad luck when we had 4 or so of our CBs out injured during that one time. That doesn't mean we can expect it to be a regular occurrence. By that logic we should buy more strikers in case RVP, Rooney, Welbeck and Hernandez ALL get injured simultaneously forcing us to play Jones up front.
I'm not opposed to adding depth and cover to our squad, but not for £17million.