European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?


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This is absolutely surreal. This feels like a horrible nightmare. I've seen United go through up and downs. We've had good years and bad years, embarrassing defeats and magnificent successes. But this right now feels like the absolute worst I have felt about this club. This is a horrible idea and I would have little interest in seeing their progression through what is a glorified exhibition tournament.
 
This is really happening isn't it?

Prepare for tv subscriptions and ticket prices to increase.

Be interesting to see if the domestic leagues have the balls to impose some serious punishment to the teams involved.
Please, those leagues are dead without those teams. Make no mistake, how many low league teams have profited off United and co?
 
I really hope our stars put in transfer requests. Lets see how well we do when bruno decides he wants to play in the euros for portugal and will leave utd.
United will tell him he’ll get 500k a week in the new super league and he’ll sign a new deal
 
So how are you opining on this when you haven't read the details? Surely you must side with fellow fans who've actually read what's out there.

If you have the time to defend the Glazers, surely you must inform yourself first?
I haven't defended the Glazers, you're wrongfully associating the SL with it being pro Glazer, lets stop that association immediately. The SL is it's own thing, not a pro and anti Glazer movement.

And I'm referring to the club tweets that have apparently been put out
 
One of the worst parts of this all is the fact the glazers are now certain to stay at the club long term due to the money involved in this European league. Hopefully the Premier league and Uefa blow this competition from starting.
 
Can't believe we've got to play Madrid again this week, but I'm pumped about Newcastle away next week. It's been a while since we played them.

- Said no one ever.

We’ve earned the right to play against Newcastle and we run the risk of not playing them every year just like they do with us.

Now we’re guaranteed to play Madrid every season. You lose the magic of drawling them in the competition once in a blue moon and you get the same match played numerous times.

El Clasico got fecking boring during that period between 2010-2012 where they played each other nearly every week, this will too.

I get your starry eyed optimism of the best of the best playing but it’s artificial and vapid and wrong and eventually the honeymoon period wears off and there’s nothing to show for it. Except maybe when we consistently finish bottom and he top clubs decide to boot us out and invite someone more appealing because it’s dog eat dog.
 
Disgraceful.

But in the end i don't think its going to happen though.
 
I haven't had chance! I'm getting about 15 replies a second at the moment. I'll read up on everything tomorrow when the dust settled. Don't really care right now as the sentiment around it is 95% negative so there's a total imbalance of rational thinking


There you go ill do you a favour.
 
More like it will kill the international competitions.

No one is sponsoring or watching a world cup without the best players in it. The players/clubs have the upper hand here.
A stand needs to be taken.
Surely then the ESL can just create their own World Cup format, making it all inclusive of course but away from Fifa regulation.
Let them try.
 
Oh I don’t think the founders will get relegated. It’ll be like U.K. at the Eurovision. The other 5 will be at risk.

I mean, if all clubs have to submit to the Eurovision as well then I think we could be onto something here
 
I haven't had chance! I'm getting about 15 replies a second at the moment. I'll read up on everything tomorrow when the dust settled. Don't really care right now as the sentiment around it is 95% negative so there's a total imbalance of rational thinking

Right...so you mock the negative sentiment here yet you haven't even bothered to read the entire statement yourself.
 
We’ve earned the right to play against Newcastle and we run the risk of not playing them every year just like they do with us.

Now we’re guaranteed to play Madrid every season. You lose the magic of drawling them in the competition once in a blue moon and you get the same match played numerous times.

El Classico got fecking boring during that period between 2010-2012 where they played each other nearly every week, this will too.
Says who? Why can't the format change in a season or so once it's established? We should just worry about winning it instead of worrying about being bored of playing world class teams to be honest, strange and silly argument.
 
No we have stayed oddly silent. I'm woth you here mate, I'm devastated.
It's on the app now. A joke of a statement

Every word sounds like (1) it's happening and (2) they don't give a feck.

My Grandad watched them pre war, my Dad since the Babes, me since relegation.

Sure some will say it's just a game ...
 
I think the whole reason for this is to stop Mancity and PSG from happening again. FA and UEFA can cry foul but they let State own football clubs and asked other teams to compete with them. This was bound to happen.

I assume a second tier competition will arrive in due course. With the amount of money involved, it will be ratified after some hue and cry from both FA and UEFA
 
Yeah, I'm done with football if this goes ahead. My dad switched off from anything football related the day Utd floated on the stock exchange, I thought that was extreme but I get his point now.
 
What's the incentive to invest in the best players and scouting? There's no danger of relegation.

All we end up doing is paying even more to our current crap players and maybe add a few more mediocre ones to keep us respectable. Why? Because our Vice-chairment of the Super League, who took 2 years to understand the offside rule, is keeping his mate Woodward (an alumni of JP Morgan by the way...) will be given free reign to keep his rule of incompetence.

And finally, if you think getting a few more million a year is worth destroying the sport in which the club participates, then I'd say we disagree on our principles for watching the sport altogether.

I have no idea when you've had a little rant about what I might think, just having a discussion here and I've said nothing about what I think.

I've tried to think about this from both perspectives and form as rational an opinion as I can. I've considered my own reasons for this not being a good thing and they don't include a complete lack of investment. I expect we would be able to invest more than we end up doing, but going far and competing in this competition, as well as the continued domestic competition (bans etc would change the dynamic of this completely though) will still be a thing. We have spent money and a good amount at that, even if it isn't as much as it could have been and even if it has been spent poorly.

Please leave the straw mans and assumptions though, there is no reason we can't play devil's advocate, discuss, debate without being dramatic and bringing up digs about our principles for watching the sport. So dramatic.
 
I haven't defended the Glazers, you're wrongfully associating the SL with it being pro Glazer, lets stop that association immediately. The SL is it's own thing, not a pro and anti Glazer movement.

And I'm referring to the club tweets that have apparently been put out
Oh, come on. Surely you must be paid for this.

This whole model is made by Americans for American consumer consumption. It's basically the NBA/NFL model for football.

It's so obvious that I think you're trolling or have ulterior motives.
 
Can't believe we've got to play Madrid again this week, but I'm pumped about Newcastle away next week. It's been a while since we played them.

- Said no one ever.
Were you ecstatic when you heard we were playing Burnley earlier? Me neither.

The reason the CL has glamour ties is because of two things: their scarcity and because a lot is riding on it. It took a lot of blood, sweat and tears to get there and everything hinges on the result. What is riding on the same fixture when it happens every year and both teams sit 7th and 9th in a league they won’t win?
 
Great, Lincoln Red Imps won the Gibraltar league last year, get them in the group stage as well, deserved entry.
Congrats on learning how to Google. If you bothered doing any actual research whatsoever you would see that winning the Gilbraltan league earned them a qualifying spot for the Europa League, where they lost to Rangers.

Not dissimilar to Midtjylland, who you tried to mock being in the Champions League, having to get through two qualification rounds before deservedly entering the group stage this season.

TL;DR - you haven't got a fecking clue what you are talking about.