European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?


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I asuume United Zone are just trolling. They seem to be the only source of the most extreme tweets in the last couple of pages.
 
We don't have all the information, Sky have led a very one sided debate on the matter and everyone seems to think there's a breakaway forming by American's.

Maybe we should wait a little bit before we start denouncing clubs and shouting about the game being gone?
So you haven't read the official statement? Or the statement from Arsenal, Liverpool and spurs? It's in plain English

Besides which, it's all irrelevant. Our club have signed up to this. No consultation with supporters. Just by signing up they have betrayed every single supporter.

Dortmund, Bayern and PSG have all had the integrity to immediately refuse to join.
 
Imagine you are Ole, you work so hard, make good progress. All the stress and criticism of managing Man United. You lose 3 semi-finals.

One more Semi Final, you lose because of this.

How can you feel alright with this? It's a disgrace. All that hard work for nothing. It doesn't matter now, take the competition away and go play some glorified friendlies.
If I was him I’d have to speak out. Sack me if you want, I couldn’t go along with it. Today’s game now means nothing, same as every game we’ve played this season. It’s all been building towards feck all, and I feel sorry for Ole the most. He’ll be seething, the club have gone behind his back. They’re doing this with or without him.
 
I'm very interested how the managers of the clubs will respond to this all.

Pep and Klopp were crying before the league started this year.
 
The standard of the overall competition dictates the merits of winning. This is why beating Real Madrid in a pre season friendly in LA means less than it would in the final of the CL.

Are you new to football?
So how is two teams playing in a European Super League the same as a friendly? Strange comparison.
 
One big worry for the SL is what the long-term plan is for financial growth and sustainability. JP Morgan will given them a large sum for the first few years, and they might get some sponsors or even broadcasters to show their games, but what about after, say, 5 years? How will they grow? What's their plan to prevent financial stagnation?

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to expand the SL and invite more clubs in as members just like MLS already does. In a way, I can see the SL becoming an elaborate Ponzi scheme just like MLS is.
There will definitely be a second tier at some point I think.
 
I asuume United Zone are just trolling. They seem to be the only source of the most extreme tweets in the last couple of pages.
Theres a big official statement mate and Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs have all released statements confirming their joining.
 
Sponsorship money, ticket prices for match going fans,...., like in the NBA. There is still a lot of money in the game.
You still don't get it. The Glazers want to maximise returns. If they make more money by buying good players, instead of the stars, they'll do that because they'll get the same or very similar payment from the Super League.

And in the end, what's the point? We'll win some soulless, plastic competition with no history? feck that.
 
West Ham 9 points clear in the lead should the big 6 get kicked out and their matches scrubbed from the records. Never thought we could win the league, even in a situation like this. Sure we will still manage to Keegan even that though!
:lol:
 
Feels like I've been stabbed through the heart. feck the Glazers, Pérez, Kroenke, etc.

1869 - 2021
That's exactly how I feel. A bunch of greedy men have banded together to try and destroy our game and sacrifice it on the altar of cash. This can't be allowed to happen. Fans, National associations, other clubs, the resistance has to be unyielding. They couldn't even wait for this season to end??? Suddenly I'm not sure what we're playing for the next few weeks.
 
FIFA surely need to ban any player from international tournaments, that'll kill this instantly.
Surely then the ESL can just create their own World Cup format, making it all inclusive of course but away from Fifa regulation.
 
On the one hand I love the fact they just stick it to the UEFA and FIFA but on the other hand it makes them the exact same corrupt bastards. The Glazers are the most despicable, arrogant, self-centered, heartless cnuts in football for me. True businessmen, have to give 'em that.
 
UEFA brought it on themselves. They killed European competition with the UCL being so bloated. They then just added a third competition even though no one gives a feck about the secondary competition.

They tampered with something that wasn’t broken long ago
 
Cancelling this years CL and Europa must make the players act surely. There must 100s of players with European club clauses in contracts if they win or score in the competitions. Gonna be a legal nightmare.
Pogba apparently gets a 1.85million bonus for qualifying for the CL. Bet he's been on he phone to Raiola all night :lol:
 
Curious to see how the players and managers react. Surely players won't be happy is their club is eliminated from europa or CL. Or if they can't represent their country.

Expecting more twists and turns.
 
So how is two teams playing in a European Super League the same as a friendly? Strange comparison.
There's no relegation. It's exactly the same situation as the National league right now and I can tell you the games below the promotion chasers are currently completely pointless.
 
The people overreacting about this need not to worry.. because of the massive backlash against the Super League it will never see the light of day.

Stick to your same old stale boring champions league and don't moan about it in future!
 
That's exactly how I feel. A bunch of greedy men have banded together to try and destroy our game and sacrifice it on the altar of cash. This can't be allowed to happen. Fans, National associations, other clubs, the resistance has to be unyielding. They couldn't even wait for this season to end??? Suddenly I'm not sure what we're playing for the next few weeks.
Agreed
 
FIFA surely need to ban any player from international tournaments, that'll kill this instantly.

More like it will kill the international competitions.

No one is sponsoring or watching a world cup without the best players in it. The players/clubs have the upper hand here.
 
Francesco Porzio: No confirmation that Champions and Europa games are temporarily suspended. Decision will be taken in the next hours - anything can happen.
 
I honestly think any club joining this super club should be demoted by default to the lowest national ranking league. These club owners have gone way to far in their self interest and its hugely damaging to the national leagues as owners that are only in it for the money will force the clubs to prioritize the Super League regardless of what being said in the public. These clubs need to be taught a serious lesson and any ownership of these clubs should be annulled and the ownership structure that have allowed this need to be restructured in a way than fans have more power rather than the owners on certain matters like joining and leaving current football leagues.
 
If all games you play in the competition are against other big teams and only that, then how will you ever learn to appreciate a big game when it happens?!

They're like, "F*ck yeah! More big games, eat it bro!", but what makes a game versus a big team feel special is that the moment is irregularly occurring.

More is not better from an experiential perspective. You want to feel the prestige of the encounter but it's going to be the law of diminishing returns.
 
Will it?

Can people stop just saying this please? Just explain why. Not one person I've read or watched has really made an actual case for this.

All I see is emotional outburst. It's frankly embarrassing how little actual discussion is going on. So many people aren't even bothering debating it. It's really frustrating. It's like wading through a crowded room of grown adults having toddler style tantrums on the floor. Stop being such a bunch of wet wipes and talk about it properly ffs.

Gary Neville has really got a lot of you going. It's scary how easily everyone seems to be lapping up Sky and BT's outrage. I can guarantee you it isn't because they care about the fans.

I suspect I've thought it through a lot more than you so leave the atrwnots at patronising to the side. I'm not saying I'm on board with it but I've at least genuinely contemplated the reasons this could be both good and bad, I don't think for a second that you have.
Give us the good then?
 
Feels like I've been stabbed through the heart. feck the Glazers, Pérez, Kroenke, etc.

1869 - 2021

What about the Hungarian Clubs that basically bought their way to CL using funds handed down by the government? Are they much better?

This whole holier than thou stance is frankly ridiculous. There are so many crooks in football these days. Just look at teams like Istanbul Basaksehir etc.
 
So you haven't read the official statement? Or the statement from Arsenal, Liverpool and spurs? It's in plain English

Besides which, it's all irrelevant. Our club have signed up to this. No consultation with supporters. Just by signing up they have betrayed every single supporter.

Dortmund, Bayern and PSG have all had the integrity to immediately refuse to join.
I haven't had chance! I'm getting about 15 replies a second at the moment. I'll read up on everything tomorrow when the dust settled. Don't really care right now as the sentiment around it is 95% negative so there's a total imbalance of rational thinking