European Super League

[Walters_19_MuFc]

If this doesn't go ahead, which is looking increasingly likely, will the clubs that initially agreed to it still be punished?

 

[One Night Only]

People moaning some players are saying nothing.

Others moaning they're saying it too late.

Moaning about the ESL.

Moaning it's disbanded but the clubs should still be punished (which would in turn punish their respective league you dimwits).

Can't win

 

[Mickeza]

Yes incredible for him to stand up after the decision has been made, same as these Liverpool clowns.

Milner yesterday, Bruno, who else made a comment before it wasn't a done deal?

Rashy.

 

[Red00012]

Glazers still hanging in there ?

 

[Berbaclass]

Yes incredible for him to stand up after the decision has been made, same as these Liverpool clowns.

Milner yesterday, Bruno, who else made a comment before it wasn't a done deal?

This. They’re all coming out now.

 

[Gandalf Greyhame]

Can anyone summarize to me what happened in the last 3 hours?

City and Chelsea are categorically out of the Super League. Talk of an emergency meeting tonight where the SL is expected to disband officially.

Ed Woodward has resigned.

 

[rooneyberbatov]

Crazy stuff. Men in suits decide to go behind everyone’s back, without consulting managers, players or fans to milk the cash cow and now the clubs are panicking and are pulling out. Does not compute.

 

[MrMarcello]

I wonder how much the players are doing to bring this down. I know the threat of not being able to play international football should be enough to get players threatening mutiny.

It's moot now if the plan is crumbling but I do not think banning players would have ever made it through a legal challenge. Players had zilch to do with this plan and banning them would have been just as much a feck you from FIFA/UEFA as much as a feck you to the fans by the same.

 

[NinjaZombie]

@SwedishFish must be devastated. Sorry, but a big feck you on your face to everyone that voted Yes to this. LEGACY FANS WILL PREVAIL

Take note of who voted "yes." I'm usually tolerant of opposing views, within reason, but those people are not my kind of people. feck them all.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Well the free market hasn’t worked for fans so that’s where the Govt needs to step in. I don’t care what Roman Abramovich or Malcolm Glazer wants. If our Govt passes a law saying clubs need to be majority owned by fans then that needs to happen. Billionaires can take their money elsewhere. They still get fair market value.

They did it in Germany with a handful of exceptions for Wolfsburg and somebody else because it was set up by VW as a team for their workers. It was always owned by the company.

I don’t see how the big six can be worth over $20bn when Utd are the most valuable at $4.2bn. The football league as a whole has very little value when you consider the debts of the teams. The value is concentrated in the premier league because that’s where the money is.

Wolves were bought for £45m in the Championship or 1x Van De Beek. They are valued £450m now as a PL team. Even if you were generous and said the 92 football league teams average value was £50m that’s still only 4.6bn. Utd are worth roughly the same as the entire football league.

The values of the top clubs are here

https://www.forbes.com/soccer-valuations/list/#tab:overall

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Woodward is leaving at the end of the calendar year according to Sky.

 

[Xeno]

This. They’re all coming out now.

Someone make a thread I haven't the energy.

Can be a Tier list like transfer. Klopp was clearly against it but towing the line etc.

Massive circlejerk on Twitter now between CFC and MCFC about who pulled out first etc. Nonsense. All clubs equally culpable and cnutable.

 

[TheReligion]

I literally posted 20 minutes ago saying that supporters of the breakaway clubs aren’t to blame, and they should be lauded for their staunch opposition. That doesn’t mean the clubs themselves did no wrong, if you took off your goggles you’d see that.

So you want to punish the fans, players and staff from those clubs?

 

[2cents]

Can anyone summarize to me what happened in the last 3 hours?

Chelsea and City have officially withdrawn from the proposed SuperLeague. Rumors that Atletico have too, although these have been denied. Barcelona said to be letting the fans decide. Also a report that all 12 are meeting now to put an end to it.

In the midst of this, news broke that Ed Woodward has resigned, due to leave end of the season. Rumors Juve’s Agnelli has resigned, although this has been denied. More and more players coming out against it.

 

[Bratt]

 

[FootyGirl88]

The only English owners in the PL are Spurs Lewis and Levy , Mike Ashley at Newcastle, Gold and Sullivan at West Ham and Steve Parrish at Palace, sounds more like a rogues gallery.,

Yeah they’re pretty shambolic too tbh, I think the clubs should be owned by the fans 50+1

 

[Zlatans Knee]

The selfish 6 should all be massively punished here. I would have no problem with relegation to the championships. Also we need Boris to push through the reforms to allow fans a % stake in ownership to prevent this from happening again. This doesn't stop from a supporters point of view we have to get rid of the Glazers

Boris will do no such thing. Now that he has fecked the country with Brexit he is even more dependent on Gulf oil money and Russian roubles.

 

[Reditus]

Take note of who voted "yes." I'm usually tolerant of opposing views, within reason, but those people are not my kind of people. feck them all.

Strangely I think it’s gone up since it all fell apart.

 

[Andycoleno9]

Bruno and Milner. Respect.
All others should be quiet.

 

[el3mel]

Man City first official withdrawal from ESL confirmed.

 

[BootsyCollins]

What the hell is this last 48 hours even.

 

[Zoo]

 

[dronesoul]

Honestly, the ones responsible in our club can pack their bags and f the right off. I will never watch any of the Super League games if it comes to that.

 

[NinjaZombie]

Bruno and Milner. Respect.
All others should be quiet.

Rashford, as well in my view. But James Milner has gone up in my estimation. Former Leeds, City amd now Liverpool player.

 

[hellhunter]

That's the sort of language these leeches will understand.

 

[FlawlessThaw]

timing partner...yeah I know we are just as bad.

 

[Stactix]

Bruno and Milner. Respect.
All others should be quiet.

Shaw was brill too.

 

[balaks]

Can all the posters in here saying how great the SL idea was please be named and shamed so we can laugh at them?

 

[NinjaZombie]

Shaw was brill too.

And Sir Marcus Rashford.

 

[Adcuth]

Gary gained a lot of points in the last days.

We need a new chairman

 

[Stactix]

Can all the posters in here saying how great the SL idea was please be named and shamed so we can laugh at them?

Just check the votes its gone up 3 since it all went to shite.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

That was good timing.

 

[Acquire Me]

timing partner...yeah I know we are just as bad.

 

[Rightnr]

United is worth $4.2 bn alone, are you talking about all British clubs or just United - could be a rather big loan considering they are borrowing frantically to cover Covid and Brexit.

Back in the real world...

Come on, give over. Earlier today you were saying it was unrealistic this monstrosity wasn't going to happen.

It's very feasible that the government can mandate the sale of a portion of the club - 20,30 or 50% over a number of years.

Also, the PL can adopt some new rules where a minimum of X% is owned by the fans. Certainly enough for a board seat, so the fans are never kept in the dark ever again.

 

[el3mel]

The guys who defended this idea last 2 ideas honestly need now to come and bravely apologize and admit they were on the wrong side.

 

[11 forwards]

Looks like a still from a documentary about "life after death".

And that could fit.

 

[hp88]

This is what they all need to do, pull the sponsors and they're fecked.

 

[Cascarino]

So you want to punish the fans, players and staff from those clubs?

On the last page.

The owners did wrong and they should be kicked out.

I think a lot of people would be for that.If possible allowing legislation that gives supporters more of a say in football, and ensuring that a situation like this can’t occur again.

 

[V.O.]

I don't know what a Tribus is. This is probably the best awareness they could have hoped for out of their sponsorship deal.

 

[Idxomer]

Chelsea and City have officially withdrawn from the proposed SuperLeague. Rumors that Atletico have too, although these have been denied. Barcelona said to be letting the fans decide. Also a report that all 12 are meeting now to put an end to it.

In the midst of this, news broke that Ed Woodward has resigned, due to leave end of the season. Rumors Juve’s Agnelli has resigned, although this has been denied. More and more players coming out against it.

Thanks. Something similar will probably happen in a few years under the guidance of UEFA and not many will object then.