So what? Hasn't it been demonstrated that it costs the city money? So if the city residents know this and they vote against it, then I see no problem.
European Super League
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There's no chance these billionaires wouldn't have amassed all the estimation in the details to make a decision of such a magnitude. I'm not entirely against the idea of a super League but it needs to address risk / reward more prominently.
Brilliant response from Gary Neville. Stuck his neck right out and pulled no punches whatsoever.
Go on Gary lad
the average fans can’t afford footballs as it is. Not saying this is right. But it’s been a long time since football was for the average fan.
To those who says ”but UEFA is bad to”. Well, UEFA isn’t perfect but who are giving money to smaller federations? To even say that they are on same level as this proposed fake league is so far from the truth.
They are testing the waters to see the public reaction. Hopefully the message back is loud and clear.
Premier League had this coming when they let Abramovich, Glazers, Henry, Mansour and all these foreign owners come in. You can have your growth with them pumping money in but eventually they’ll have the power.
So is G Nev for or against it??
You tell ‘em Gary!
I agree with everything you say.
I agree with everything you say.
Gary Neville, what a man.
Not sure Gary made his feelings known well enough! Can't stand it when he sits on the fence 
I fear the end of our club and football as we know it will finally come to an end - but can’t say I’m surprised. Football has been gearing towards this for years.
often it's a blessing but I'm raging my river ran dry before the post match today.
Gary Neville is minding his own investments, you sheep. His Salford City project depends on the big clubs staying and not messing up the payment structure.
It works in all US sports though. It is not a matter of opinion, there is a lot of evidence that it might work.
For example, two groups of two with top 4 teams of each group getting qualified for playoffs. That would mean, that the majority of the teams will be playing for playoffs, so they will have something to play.
It will probably be a bit alien, but not necessarily bad, and it can easily work.
Fantastic from Neville
Will the Glazers really sacrifice PL and CL just for money ? Fans will surely backlash right ? I really can't believe this will be the future of United, to play in such shitty competition and no more thinking every season if we'll win the PL or not. FFS, please just roll out of this shit.
That is true. Maybe I should rephrase, how can most people afford this.
Gary coming out like a prime Stone Cold, hitting everyone with those chair shots.
Let them have it.
Let them have it.
Statement at 21:30.
You want to come to mine and take Molly?
I presume it works in American sports because it has been the model from the beginning? I like that there is no relegation/promotion in those sports because it makes sense in the American context, but it has no business in European sports.
Calling us a small club. Wow.
The FA in this country have sat by as these suddenly oh so important clubs have folded (mostly due to relatively peanuts financial troubles) left, right and centre. Their pearl clutching today about how we need to keep the pyramid structure because money flows down from the big boys who have apparently signed up to this is the biggest load of shit I've ever heard.
Oh, you know, he could actually just be against the idea like most fans of football.
Gary! “United have acted like a small club for 8 years!”
This seems like the kind of thing that will favour the super rich clubs (City, Madrid, PSG etc) in the long run, so I'm actually surprised the "rich, but not that rich" clubs like United, Arsenal and Liverpool are actually in favour.
true. All you will get is 96% home attendances as well. Bollocks.
and Sky, BT, BBC, ITV etc will likely lose out too, so obviously there will be a lot of vested interest in discrediting the proposal
I agree with Neville 100%.
However, the irony of the Salford City owner talking about skewing the playing field hasn't been lost on lower league fans!
However, the irony of the Salford City owner talking about skewing the playing field hasn't been lost on lower league fans!
How the hell are Spurs and Arsenal involved in this?
Leicester and Everton must be fuming.
Leicester and Everton must be fuming.
Levy loves a cash grab.How are spurs part of this?
Pretty much this.
seriously, european super league - go sit on it and spin. It will be dull as hell and who will screen it and how much will they expect us to pay! how do fans get to watch away games?
Can't say I'm a fan of the suits who run the PL but they are right to slam this. Bayern Munich showing the class that they pretty much always do. Glazers and Woodward are a disgrace if they've back this. go feck yourselves.
Can't say I'm a fan of the suits who run the PL but they are right to slam this. Bayern Munich showing the class that they pretty much always do. Glazers and Woodward are a disgrace if they've back this. go feck yourselves.
I’ll keep my powder dry until we see the detail behind this.
I won’t spare a tear for the death of the top four race every season at the expense of interest in domestic cups and just proving yourself in the domestic league. My understanding from what I have read is that this is more of a threat to the CL, rather than the domestic leagues. Why does the CL have to be the premier continental competition?
People have to be careful not to take a luddite attitude to change. The Football League was against any English teams even competing in European competitions initially.
I’d be pretty aghast if this turns out to be Manchester United no longer wanting to play English domestic football though.
I won’t spare a tear for the death of the top four race every season at the expense of interest in domestic cups and just proving yourself in the domestic league. My understanding from what I have read is that this is more of a threat to the CL, rather than the domestic leagues. Why does the CL have to be the premier continental competition?
People have to be careful not to take a luddite attitude to change. The Football League was against any English teams even competing in European competitions initially.
I’d be pretty aghast if this turns out to be Manchester United no longer wanting to play English domestic football though.
PSG aren't backing this, are they? They're super rich, but then again, they're already doing very well and are in a good position with their league, squad and set-up.
pretty much not!
Of course, this can only happen based on two things:
1) United (and the rest of the big 6 clubs) negotiate with the PL to also play there, along with staying in the Carabao Cup and FA Cup. The European Super League becoming the main league for us (and everyone else signing up) would be stupid to say the least. We are an English club, Barcelona are a Spanish club, Juve Italian etc etc.
2) There is a yearly qualification for the European Super League, thus sides like Leicester, Everton and West Ham can still make it. Otherwise, the top end of the PL, aside from winning it, would be absolutely pointless.
If this criteria is met, then it’s fine. I’ll be indifferent to it. It’s basically just us playing the likes of Real and Barcelona in both halves of the season instead of just the second.
1) United (and the rest of the big 6 clubs) negotiate with the PL to also play there, along with staying in the Carabao Cup and FA Cup. The European Super League becoming the main league for us (and everyone else signing up) would be stupid to say the least. We are an English club, Barcelona are a Spanish club, Juve Italian etc etc.
2) There is a yearly qualification for the European Super League, thus sides like Leicester, Everton and West Ham can still make it. Otherwise, the top end of the PL, aside from winning it, would be absolutely pointless.
If this criteria is met, then it’s fine. I’ll be indifferent to it. It’s basically just us playing the likes of Real and Barcelona in both halves of the season instead of just the second.
What does their nationality have to do with it?