European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?

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SilentWitness said:
Why do you feel that impacts you as a fan and why do you feel the EL Superleague would be better?
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United should have had a much bigger share of the pie down the years and had our pick of the best players like Bayern, Real, Barca in their leagues.

The ESL allows this concentration of wealth as well as caters to each individual clubs selling some of their TV rights themselves.
 
This is just awful. Big clubs are keen on destroying football.
 
Very dangerous path to go down. One step away from New York Red Devils and so on.
 
Josep Dowling said:
So let’s have a boring league like La Liga then? United make enough money without taking more from the competition. The club has enough advantages to most of the league.
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That's the difference, it's not taking from the competition, the arrangement is United subsidizing the competition.

If the World wants to pay more for United on TV, United should be getting more money, not Burnley.
 
"Smaller clubs now have their chance to go on a run in the Champions League"
So what? Porto were picked apart after they won it. Monaco were just picked apart by the big clubs, Lyons best player is running his contract down to join a European giant.
Not a single person cares about group games in the champions League against the likes of Young Boys
Football has been all about money for years and the Premier League, FIFA and UEFA going on about greed is just taking the cake...
 
macheda14 said:
The classic ‘top 6’ are all part of it. United, City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool.
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Oh boy..

If our entire football just becomes this competition with no PL or CL, I won't lie, my interest in football and the sport in general will go down massively. Like I'll still watch United games out of habit, but I'll be lying if I say it's with the same passion or interest.
 
How many of the alleged founding clubs are fan-owned or controlled? Do the members of Real Madrid and Barcelona really support this move? I think they've just confirmed new terms for their president, Perez and Laporta, but unless their fanbase actually supports this idea I find it hard to believe they can simply decide such a far reaching matter.

Surely there would be pushback, and possibly an emergency general meeting? Or am I wrong and this is actually a popular idea among some supporters? So far there's no mention of Bayern having agreed to join, so I can only speculate they're not on board yet and maybe hesitant as their club members might not agree to the super league?
 
el3mel said:


Whelp, don't tell me we're part of this ?
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The clubs concerned will be banned from playing in any other domestic competition, European or International level, and the players could be denied the opportunity to represent their national teams

Aren't these two things in bold the same?

Misunderstood, carry on, mr. Romano.
 
Traub said:
Because without it, United would essentially be like Bayern strolling to the league 9 times out of 10. I can see why this would appeal to some (not me personally) - the same people who clock games on the easiest setting, or save before every game on FM in case they lose.
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Well, yes but I find that quite sad that a fan would want their club to win the league 9 times out of 10 with little competition. A ESL would be completely soulless.
 
Of course the yanks are at the centre of this, America hates genuine fair competition, everything has to be a monopoly when they get their mucky paws on it. I’m sick to my stomach that my club is not only part of it but a driving force behind it.
 
All i know is i wont be watching this, guess i'll find something else to watch instead of football.
 
Cal? said:
United should have had a much bigger share of the pie down the years and had our pick of the best players like Bayern, Real, Barca in their leagues.

The ESL allows this concentration of wealth as well as caters to each individual clubs selling some of their TV rights themselves.
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So as a fan of football you only gain pleasure from United sucking up all the best players, winning all the time and having the most money?
 
I thought it was originally supposed to replace the CL?

So what will happen with the CL?
 
Why would we even want to be in this? We have no ambition. Imagine how embarrassing this would be to play in and never compete.

Glazers are a joke
 
The Plump Poet said:
Let's be clear: Apologies for how xenophobic this sounds, but it's the foreign fans that are responsible for killing the sport.

What's more, you know it's true.
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How dumb do you sound?

Southend United. Probably your typical Ingerlund thug who boos other countries national anthems in friendlies.
 
macheda14 said:
The classic ‘top 6’ are all part of it. United, City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool.
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I don't think City are. From what I can tell, in January, Pep said he didn't want them to join and reports today are that City didn't sign up for the Super League.

If that's true, that City didn't, and United did, then feck me.
 
The nytimes has the full story
PSG, dortmund and Bayern have been invited but refused
Dortmund are clearly against. Bayern is so so. And PSG it seems more about all the money involved for Nasser and bein sport if the champions league lose all the biggest teams

And fifa is behind uefa to ban players from FIFA comptetitions

I think PSG Bayern and Dortmund will rally if the superleague win all the trials on player banishment from FIFA competitions
 
Just feels like deja vu and we've heard it all before.

Are the oil clubs invited?
 
Very disappointed our name is associated in this. These people are ruining football.
 
Premier League statement here.

SilentWitness said:
Well, yes but I find that quite sad that a fan would want their club to win the league 9 times out of 10 with little competition. A ESL would be completely soulless.
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Agreed, plus what are the chances of even winning the ESL? Definitely lower than the current PL.
 
Madridista2000 said:
The UEFA and domestic leagues does not have anything to threaten with.

What will PL be without the 6 big clubs? A glorified championship at best.
What would La Liga be without Real, Barca and Athletico. Not even better than the Portuguese league.
What would Serie A be without Milan, Inter and Juventus?

Banning players from Euros? Who is gonna watch second 11's compete in Euros?

They have no choice but to bend over.
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Your nickname says all we need to know about your bias in this situation but let me try to 'discuss'.

First, the PL is not La Liga where people care only for the two big clubs with a sprinkling with Sevilla and Atletico (not Athletico btw) Madrid (who both inevitably bottle the league to the former two in 9/10 cases).

The PL is built on equal distribution of money which allows for excitement in most games and unpredictability of the outcome each season(title, top 4, relegation). We have already seen that allowing Citeh to spend their way to a league title makes the league winner less unpredictable/exciting. Why should crap teams like Spuds and Arsenal get to benefit from big money when they've proven they're not good enough to compete with West Ham and Leicester?

Secondly, I would prefer to watch crappy little teams than these plastic big clubs owned by Yanks in a league facilitated by Yank banks (JP Morgan, please). Americans have proven time and again they have no understanding of European football in relation to its meaning to fans and communities, so I don't want them to have even an ounce more influence on European football.
 
The interesting part of the UEFA stamens is the use of the term “could be”. I’m guessing they’re not confident in the legality of removing teams from leagues or blocking players from representing international teams. You‘d suspect the clubs involved lawyers would have preemptively put together a case fighting any such moves, and City have already beat UEFA once.
 
Cal? said:
United should have had a much bigger share of the pie down the years and had our pick of the best players like Bayern, Real, Barca in their leagues.

The ESL allows this concentration of wealth as well as caters to each individual clubs selling some of their TV rights themselves.
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Bless, you think United the football club will be getting a bigger slice of the pie if this goes ahead
 
UEFA want to make the CL bigger and longer with more teams. Their plan is as woeful as this super league. In the fact the super league seems to be in response to UEFA's awful plans.
 
Sparky_Hughes said:
Of course the yanks are at the centre of this, America hates genuine fair competition, everything has to be a monopoly when they get their mucky paws on it. I’m sick to my stomach that my club is not only part of it but a driving force behind it.
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I disagree.

Salary caps and the draft system in American sports is a brilliant leveller, IMO.
 
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