European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?

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Don't Kill Bill said:
Its not just me that doesn't like it though is it? Its millions of football fans who actually the watch the games and are pretty much unanimously against the proposal.

I think its probably your interpretation of what, when and why a govt should and shouldn't get involved in matters effecting their electorates that is causing our difference in opinion here.

Football being the largest sport in the UK, and all the supporters being against the move and unable to stop the event by themselves because of the power imbalances between supporters and owners.

This is exactly where govt should step in on behalf of the people who elect them to protect them from owners abusing their powers. That is what is happening and I think it needs to be stopped and the best tool for that job is the govt which has the power to stop it.

You are not one of those libertarian let capitalism rip type idiots against govt intervention on ideological grounds are you?
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No I'm not, but just because something has popular support doesn't make it right to infringe on the rights of the choices of the owners. The tyranny of the majority is a thing to be wary of in a democracy and using popular support to get government to uphold a monopoly of the sport is facistic in the traditional sense.
 
Sport Witness: Reaction from Spain to The Super League continues to be far more positive than elsewhere
 
crossy1686 said:
If we're playing in both these leagues we'll essentially need two squads, will there be a second string? How will the players adapt between the competitions? Fred has always been good in the CL but shaky in the PL. Would have have been signed to play mostly SL games? What's the squad registration size going to be? So many things we don't know yet.
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@mods ban this wum. Continually derailing the thread
 
SirAnderson said:
Can we have some thread marks for this threat? Want to see where the official announcements were posted and the subsequent meltdowns that occurred.
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I asked for that a few thousand posts ago. Quoting to raise visibility :cool:
 
Ronaldo's Love Child said:
This is being touted as a replacement for the Champions League. The reality is that we'll get kicked out of the English Premiership and the Super League will be all we have left. No Premiership, no English cups, no matches against anyone other than the "founding members". It makes me feel quite sick.
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I don’t think they kick us out the prem, but who knows. However the fact we are being threatened to be is a pretty big red flag that we’re in the wrong.
 
pratyush_utd said:
They own the football club and whatever money it makes. So in a way it's their money. They can even choose to not spend whatever United make and there is nothing we can do about it.
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Accept that.
But we must remember that the club is owned by Manchester United plc which is in turn owned by the Glazier family. But as a plc, it is listed on the NY stock exchange with its shares being traded.
And as all United fans know, they used the value of the football club to leverage debt in order to buy the club.
 
Oh well it's definitely going ahead then: just heard Boris Johnson has said he will do all he can to stop it... :devil:
 
red4ever 79 said:
@DomesticTadpole Even if we somehow stayed in the EPL, this is going to make a mockery of that competition.
Let's say on a Wed evening Man Utd have a game against Barca and the winner of that will get top 4 of this superleage and get $ prize money, whatever amount is on offer which I imagine is high.

What do you think Man Utd will do if they have a premier league game a few days before, which is now worth a lot less because there will be no champions league places on the line. Will they a) go full strength for the integrity of the game or b) play a second string and place more emphasis on the midweek game.
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That's true.
 
red4ever 79 said:
Maybe they will have a raffle?
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Even then it's wierd. If you join it, you cannot afforded to be booted out since you will be blacklisted by UEFA/FIFA for life.

I would never join it if I weren't certain of a lifetime membership.
 
I wish some of the players like Marcus came out and said something about it!
An absolute joke. We all knew that the UEFA and FIFA are greedy and something had to be done to stop them, but clearly this is the wrong way to do it.
 
Buster15 said:
Accept that.
But we must remember that the club is owned by Manchester United plc which is in turn owned by the Glazier family. But as a plc, it is listed on the NY stock exchange with its shares being traded.
And as all United fans know, they used the value of the football club to leverage debt in order to buy the club.
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that still annoys me - even more than this later attempt at legal piracy
 
Slightly different view, as a football fan first. Feck it, let them do it. Kick them out of the domestic leagues, keep the Champions League for those who remain and put in place some real FFP rules to stop the plastic clubs from happening again. The quality won't be the same, but I'd enjoy watching Leicester and West Ham battle it out for the title and Wolves vs Ajax in the Champions League.

We can get our game back, it'll just be at the sacrifice of these 12 clubs. Crossy and 'global audience' can watch this Super League crap, we'll watch some real football again.
 
pocco said:
Seriously though. Everyone is in uproar about this and you're trying to discuss whether we should only register Fred for the SL games as he typically plays better in the CL. You're massively out of touch.
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I'm just over the outrage. It looks like it's happening so I'd like to discuss how its going to happen and what it's going to look like but it doesn't seem like we're ready for that yet so we can have this discussion at a later date when everyone has calmed down I guess
 
crossy1686 said:
Money was the driving force behind the PL forming in 92, that was a literal break away league but now we want to replace the CL with a different European competition it's a problem? Sky talk about football like it didn't exist before 92. Leeds won the league in 91, no one gives a shit. Clubs that generate big money will always follow it, regardless of what we think.
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The main issue is the super league is a closed shop. No relegation - it's an american sports model and is the antithesis of what football is about as a sport.

The money is brought up because the break away clubs are willing to sacrific the sport and all it's history and tradition for a bit more money.
 
Don't the 3 Spanish clus have to run this past their "socios"? Can the boards and the respective presidents just decide that they're going to join a breakway competition? Seems like a pretty major thing to decide without going past their socios.
 
I may be in the minority here, but the games been gone for sometime already, so this step doesn't not surprise me one bit.
Bring it on, just make sure that we get SuperVAR and SuperRefs on board as well.
Current one are shite.
 
Are people ignoring the fact that UEFA reforming the competition anyway? It's barely going to be different than the super league anyway.
 
Handsome Devil said:
I wonder which TV networks are in on this? There must have been negotiations going on already. Have Sky been left out in the cold?
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I reckon Amazon. They'll have the data from their trial of prem games.
 
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