Work permits. Academy players in terms of the homegrown quota will = specifically English players, rather than EU nationals, which will further have a negative impact on our teams. And in the immediate term, the crash in the £ Brexit will precipitate, will mean it will cost us more to bring in players from the EU... Scudamore has already come out in favour of Remain, for obvious reasons.
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Yes. I think almost a 100 players in PL alone will be disqualified if Brexit happens. Add to it many youngsters in the academy also get disqualified.
Utd will lose the likes of Mata, Morgan and Martial I think. City will lose Navas, Nasri, Mangala etc
It will probably result in more homegrown players getting opportunities, but I doubt how much English clubs will be able to compete in Europe with mostly English talents.
The Sun: Letter from 100 small firm bosses calling for Brexit
BBC article on The Times: Over 1,280 business leaders sign letter backing Remain (list includes 900 small businesses)
BBC article on The Times: Over 1,280 business leaders sign letter backing Remain (list includes 900 small businesses)
Would Arsenal or Chelsea be able to field a starting XI?
Agreed. It's a fairly simple yes or no decision. Democracy and governance functions through people being able to make tough decisions from imperfect choices.
I am not exactly aware of all the rules. But if the players were representing their NTs and the teams are not ranked below some cut off, then I think they can get the permit.
Imagine Troy Deeney's value post-Brexit..
Interesting, according to most economists the effects of Brexit on the economy and the value of the £ range from 'bad to very, very, very bad' in the short term, and the long term effects less easier to predict for obvious reasons. Even the brief period in which the Leave campaign were ahead the value of the £ dropped quite significantly.
We're already charged a premium just for being Man United, long term loss in value to the £ could be really bad.
And for buying players, particularly at a young age, the likes of Januzaj, Pogba, TFM etc, would be less likely to come to British academies, and that could further hold us back against Europe's elite. On the other hand, developing British talent has been a key strategy at the end of basically every football tournament for the last decade or so.
Actually they change the work permit rules for footballers a couple of years ago - its not now 75% of internationals over the last 2 years
http://www.danielgeey.com/the-foreigner-debate-the-fas-new-work-permit-regulations-explained/
For example Mata would qualify based on his wages (3 points) and having played over 30% of minutes
Morgan would qualify based on wages and minutes as well... same as Martial
all would almost certainly get extra points for transfer fee (however they retrospectively worked that)
Plus Morgan has been in the UK so long I think he could apply for indefinate leave to remain? - if not he could easily qualift for a fiance visa based on being engaged to a Uk citizen and his wages.
Besides all current arangements would remain whilst any new settlement was re-negotiated
If I understand this correctly, footballers from Europe can walk into any country and work without any documentation? How come I cant?
You mean in Holland? because every country has different laws
. I don't need anything to work in France I don't know if you guys got it down south but BoJo's letter in the Scottish Metro is hilarious. It basically reads as a parody of Braveheart. If I'm honest I'm not sure he didn't just nick it from there.
'They'll never take our FREEEEEEEEEEDOM' for a whole page.
'They'll never take our FREEEEEEEEEEDOM' for a whole page.
Can residents of the Falklands, Jersey etc vote?
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Thoughts on this? I know this is an issue you care about, do you think it makes little difference either way?
(Guardian liveblog)
Thoughts on this? I know this is an issue you care about, do you think it makes little difference either way?
(Guardian liveblog)
Parisians launch Operation Croissant (with no croissants due to election rules so they were donated to homeless shelter instead): http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/22/paris...get-us-to-stay-in-the-eu-5959715/?ito=twitter
http://operationcroissant.tumblr.com/
https://twitter.com/hashtag/operationcroissant?f=images&vertical=news&src=hash
http://operationcroissant.tumblr.com/
https://twitter.com/hashtag/operationcroissant?f=images&vertical=news&src=hash
So, for the sake of clarification, it is now permissible on the Caf to falsely paint an entire group as xenophobic, racist and Islamophobic? Did we not used to have standards on this site requiring posters to respect each other and discuss issues accordingly?
There were comparisons drawn with Enoch Powell, the Nazis, people who want to ban all Muslims, and a suggestion that Leavers don't want any 'dark-faced foreigner'; but it was all just banter eh. Or alternatively, Wibble sees it as justified.
Farage did that with his ridiculous comment about Aids during a 2015 GE debate.
But I've not been talking with the leader of UKIP, i've been exchanging posts with you. And going by your reply there doesn't appear to be the least acceptance that those earlier posts could have been offensive.
I am accusing you of falsely describing others as either xenophobic or racist.
However i see that we are back to Leave = Dumb. Do you never get tired of all this, Paul?
Quite the opposite it's one of the main detrimental factors in the EU. You can't have a single currency across such different industries, it's an economic nightmare.
Standardisation within the market is one thing but you need fiscal flexibility to react.
If you think there are no xenophobic or racist people in Brexit, then I believe you are a little naïve, and I have not accused you of being so.
As for being dumb, looking at it from an economic aspect, nothing will ever convince me that leave is nothing but a disaster economically for the UK - if someone wants their own country to suffer economically because of some idealistic utopia then yes, sorry, but I would say that is dumb.
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I'm still somewhat undecided and I've been trying to find a good or even half-decent rebuttal to that Dougan video, as it's probably the best thing I've seen/read on the debate so far. I haven't succeeded - has anyone else?
There isn't one because he's entirely right.
Made it back from my ban.....
I see remain are pulling out all the stops now. Sky and BBC news channels are just repeating pro remain, pro EU footage over and over, it is ridiculously biased. I also think remain won the BBC debate last night as the leave side were getting rather repetitive with their 'take back control' slogan. The Scottish politician Ruth Davidson did really well for remain and probably won them the debate although Boris's speech at the end got the best crowd reaction.
Can't help that feel it's a losing battle for leave but it always was. It is still very possible that leave could win and it must be very close given how panicked the remain side have been. But with the constant stream of pro remain footage coming out of our televisions I can see that swaying some of the undecided to vote remain and go with the status quo. It wont have change any leave voters minds though that's for sure so its all about turnout. Leave voters will turn up. I just hope remain voters don't bother. Who would be passionate about staying in the EU anyway with the way its headed? Vote leave.
I see remain are pulling out all the stops now. Sky and BBC news channels are just repeating pro remain, pro EU footage over and over, it is ridiculously biased. I also think remain won the BBC debate last night as the leave side were getting rather repetitive with their 'take back control' slogan. The Scottish politician Ruth Davidson did really well for remain and probably won them the debate although Boris's speech at the end got the best crowd reaction.
Can't help that feel it's a losing battle for leave but it always was. It is still very possible that leave could win and it must be very close given how panicked the remain side have been. But with the constant stream of pro remain footage coming out of our televisions I can see that swaying some of the undecided to vote remain and go with the status quo. It wont have change any leave voters minds though that's for sure so its all about turnout. Leave voters will turn up. I just hope remain voters don't bother. Who would be passionate about staying in the EU anyway with the way its headed? Vote leave.
That's my heavy suspicion but there's still time!
Boris Johnson promises to publicly apologise if Brexit triggers recession
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...sion/ar-AAhpott?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignoutmd
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...sion/ar-AAhpott?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignoutmd
You can't even work in your own country without any documentation so I'm not sure what you're talking about. The amount will vary from country to country of course.
He's actually a cartoon character. Rather than come up with something to stop a recession he'll say sorry? What a fecking moron.
If anyone here is undecided, we wouldn't have been able to sign De Gea if we'd left the EU a decade ago.
"I would like to publicly apologize. Apparently the French do not like British made knickers and chocolate cake as much as I thought."
"I would like to publicly apologise, apparently it turns out that pretty much every expert you could find was right all along. Who knew."
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Jacobin magazine has endorsed Remain, this must mean they are part of the globalist corporate conspiracy.
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/06/brexit-referendum-leave-remain-immigration/
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/06/brexit-referendum-leave-remain-immigration/
Just remember that if you're out, you're out. You won't be able to keep all the benefits of the EU while ditching all the obligations.
Martial, anybody
Yup. Just imagine the last season with Foster in goal and an injured Rooney playing every game. That's what Brexit is, people!
From http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35919247
Who is in danger?
Players with an EU passport are currently free to play in the UK. Those without must meet Home Office criteria, the most important being that they are established internationals for leading nations.
Analysis of squads in the first two tiers in England and the Scottish Premiership has revealed a total of 332 players would fail to meet the current standards.
More than 100 Premier League players would be affected with Aston Villa, Newcastle United and Watford facing losing 11 players from their squads, while Championship side Charlton Athletic would need to find 13 replacements.
In fact, only 23 of the 180 non-British EU players currently playing in the Championship would get work permits - and most of those are former internationals from Ireland or Commonwealth nations with British passports.
Remarkably, none of the 53 non-British EU players in the Scottish Premiership would qualify for a permit on the basis of their international career alone.
That is the same situation for 63 non-British EU players in League One and 46 in League Two.
Who is in danger?
Players with an EU passport are currently free to play in the UK. Those without must meet Home Office criteria, the most important being that they are established internationals for leading nations.
Analysis of squads in the first two tiers in England and the Scottish Premiership has revealed a total of 332 players would fail to meet the current standards.
More than 100 Premier League players would be affected with Aston Villa, Newcastle United and Watford facing losing 11 players from their squads, while Championship side Charlton Athletic would need to find 13 replacements.
In fact, only 23 of the 180 non-British EU players currently playing in the Championship would get work permits - and most of those are former internationals from Ireland or Commonwealth nations with British passports.
Remarkably, none of the 53 non-British EU players in the Scottish Premiership would qualify for a permit on the basis of their international career alone.
That is the same situation for 63 non-British EU players in League One and 46 in League Two.
Indeed it is, i have direct debits with a few of those organisations mentioned. Whilst it is undeniably true that the EU of the past raised standards in some important areas, those things are now seen as expected by the the majority alive today. And though unsustainable increases in population are is a concern in southern England in particular, the most immediate threats to our countryside derive from a source outside closer to home, namely Westminster. Cuts, planning reforms, short-term policy making on development and flood prevention e.t.c.
Additionally, the introduction of TTIP could bring about a reversal of the progress made by ourselves and other European nations. Yes, there is broad opposition on the streets of the continent (for which i am glad), but the controversial statements made by the EU's the Trade Commissioner cast a worrying light upon the mindset of those in power. Unintentionally, Brexit might be a blessing in this regard, as it can't but cause a further delay in negotiations.
Well thats great to hear because obviously an apology by Boris means so much to me.
What I really want to know is who are the 5% of UKIP supporters who say they're voting remain?
What I really want to know is who are the 5% of UKIP supporters who say they're voting remain?
I've heard that exact same comment/joke before.
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