Surely you're joking or a WUMThe red card was harsh and any team can get caught cold at the start of a half, we were unlucky it happened twice today. For large part of the second half we looked the better side with just 10 men. The players are still fighting for him, they just didn't get the rub of the green today.
Barring huge turnaround, he'll go between the International break and Christmas
Doesn't really feel like much to celebrate, we all thought we found the one in ten Hag.
I'll celebrate when we actually win the Premier League or champions league
I mean we have fans who somehow believe that 6 managers in 10 years is a lot or too much.
People should remember that during the same period of time Bayern had 8 different managers(including interims), Real Madrid had 6 different and 7 in total, Juventus had 4 different and 5 in total. Both Milan team have had 10 different managers. Napoli have had 7 different managers. The point being that United are arguably the club that underachieved the most and one of the key issue is the club reluctance to change things quickly which as far as I know is not an issue for Ineos Sport.
Wont be a turnaround. He’s lost the dressing room. Every game Ineos give him now is a literal waste of time. He should be gone in the morning. Why do we have to wait another X games to confirm what we already know? We’ve been dogshit since March 2022.
Standards have truly plummeted haven't they? There's so many fans who think giving him a few more games is somehow justifiable, and I'd say it's the same ones who thought keeping him on was a great idea after winning the cup. Any other club of this stature would not have tolerated losing 7-0 to their greatest rivals and countless humiliations after that, but sections of this fan base always seems to welcome more punishment, like it's some sort of strange fetish.
Not sure this is a serious observation. We were completely outplayed, at home, from the first minute even with Eleven players on the pitch. Spurs went into 2nd gear in the second half to not over-exercise themselves, and possibly, because they agreed the red card was harsh. We were 2nd best the whole match.The red card was harsh and any team can get caught cold at the start of a half, we were unlucky it happened twice today. For large part of the second half we looked the better side with just 10 men. The players are still fighting for him, they just didn't get the rub of the green today.
He probably should go but my biggest fear is if he does it's going to be Southgate. England's performances were in spite of Southgate not because of him.
I"ve been keen to speak up for ETH but this just is not true. Every one of them was off the pace and the organisation and energy was not there. The sending off made not much difference because Bruno was a liability already. Perhaps it can be turned around with Hojland/Mount for Bruno/Zirkzee. But really it looks like some of the players aren't doing the basics. If you said to me 'give him till xmas to turn it around' I might reluctantly agree just to see if its possible, but I think after today it's much more likely than unlikely that he can't. If he were sacked on Monday he'd have brought it on himself.The red card was harsh and any team can get caught cold at the start of a half, we were unlucky it happened twice today. For large part of the second half we looked the better side with just 10 men. The players are still fighting for him, they just didn't get the rub of the green today.
He probably should go but my biggest fear is if he does it's going to be Southgate. England's performances were in spite of Southgate not because of him.
Fair enough. I was ETH in before and after the final as I believed he was building something. Don’t get me wrong, I was far from convinced, but I was prepared to give him another pre-season etc. That is just one good reason why I don’t work in football! However, now it seems clear it’s never going to work. Starting to feel like we will never be a serious club again.The poll was something ridiculously high, like 80% OUT before the final, and then by the time the poll closed it was a higher percentage asking for him to stay. Every single fool who changed their vote and is now moaning, that's who I'm talking to.
And even if it is Southgate, he’ll do better than ETH last 44 PL games with 17 defeats, let that sink in a -3 GD he just needs to go, he’s the worse manager since Moyes and it’s a flip of a coin whose actually worse between the Two, Moyes record in Europe is miles better than ETH!What makes you say that? Is it cos he's friends with Ashworth or something?
You sound like it’s the players fault. It’s barely the same players as last season at this stage.One week the players look up for it, the next they don't. Can't Erik remind them or show them the FA cup final from last season?
They've got the performance in them, why are they not responding to the manager?
Absolute mystery.
I think keeping him on was the correct decision. But it's looking increasingly like the wrong one.The poll was something ridiculously high, like 80% OUT before the final, and then by the time the poll closed it was a higher percentage asking for him to stay. Every single fool who changed their vote and is now moaning, that's who I'm talking to.
I'm guessing you were wearing your Red Tinted Manchester Utd glasses to watch the game.The red card was harsh and any team can get caught cold at the start of a half, we were unlucky it happened twice today. For large part of the second half we looked the better side with just 10 men. The players are still fighting for him, they just didn't get the rub of the green today.
Ratcliffe is really starting to piss me off now. I'm sure the Glazers would have sacked him by now.
At this point, even if it's Southgate, so be it.He probably should go but my biggest fear is if he does it's going to be Southgate. England's performances were in spite of Southgate not because of him.
He’s been here for 2 years on now, if communication is the problem, he deserves to be sacked too.I want ETH to leave the club but is language an issue in the dressing room? I’ve seen ETH misunderstand questions from the media time and time again, and he most recently misconstrued Ronaldo’s comments too. I wonder if that has been a stumbling block when you also consider the diversity of players on the pitch?
I know that isn’t the sole problem but communication (and associated nuances) is important and ETH doesn’t seem to be able to communicate his thoughts/approach to players in games.
He’s been here for 2 years on now, if communication is the problem, he deserves to be sacked too.
Get fecking interpreters in if communication is that bad.
I don't understand how so many of you who changed your mind about wanting him gone after we beat a drunk Man City team, are now once again asking for him to be sacked so quickly? Everyone that asked for us to keep him should sit back and relax. This is what you deserve.
Ratcliffe is really starting to piss me off now. I'm sure the Glazers would have sacked him by now.
He's built a squad that he has no idea what to do with. It's staggeringly incompetent.
The same problems are still there and then somehow he manages to create new ones.
Just get rid, I can't watch any more if this. The only player we were really missing from that starting line up was Shaw. Maybe Højlund.
It's just atrocious. We play like the team's hive mind is concussed and they don't know where the hell they are.
