My god they really are annoying cnuts. Well done lads you’re officially a stepping stone club
I mean, they've always been that. Let them have their fun!
Erling Haaland | Dortmund player
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I mean, they've always been that. Let them have their fun!
People can spin this decision however they want to but I am glad that United are now dealing with players on their own terms instead of being strong armed by super agents.
That being said, I hope we smash dortmund whenever we play them next.
That being said, I hope we smash dortmund whenever we play them next.
With a buyout clause.
They always have tbf. They've never allowed a release clause in a contract as far as I'm aware and never will. There's no way that they'd agree to a big slice of future transfer fee for an agent either.
So the one player who actually might have wanted to sign and play for Ole, didnt want to. Bummer
I think that's more a dig at the media outlets in England and Italy who reported Haaland signing for their respective clubs as done dealio?
Any figures mentioned of what his buy-out with Dortmund is?
No issue for me there, already said that club should come publicly and announce that Riola isnt welcomed, so his clients know if they ever think about joining us. Regardless of those clauses being true or not, it wouldnt surprise me, % for me, slice here, buyout clause there, i mean player joining us and he wants already get out clause. Guess he learned his lesson from whole Pogba situation.
So feck those clowns, Dortmund will get profit at the end, after his agents throws few chairs.
So feck those clowns, Dortmund will get profit at the end, after his agents throws few chairs.
We need to do like City and stop doing business once Raiola is involved
And seemingly the same ones too.Few really lose their shit when some young player signs for other clubs
We’ve even missed out on a player pictured with our shirt
The last 6 years sure did a number on the collective psyche of this fan base. Can’t handle the slightest of rejection.
To be fair it would be hilarious if it happened today, Woodward's life would be in immediate danger.
Yes, I'm not sure the taller, less agile Haaland fits better into Favre's football. Balotelli is the only really tall CF I can think of who functioned under Favre, at least for some time. Perhaps that move is an indicator of a transfer policy independent of the coach's priorities? Which may not be a good sign for Favre, as that never worked out well for him.
McT is gonna wreck his knee in the future..
So, so bitter.
Not sure he's even his agent is he? Or if he is I'm sure it's a recent arrangement. Raiola is just smart, aligning himself with every young talent before their first big move, did the same with De Ligt making it very hard to avoid having to deal with him if we continue to shop in the 'young potential' market
This can happen at both clubs tbf. But given the huge pressure playing at Utd, horrible physical demand of the PL and the Bundes is much easier than the PL I'd say the probability of that to happen at Utd is much higher than at Dortmund.
The bonuses of a renew contract is usually much lower than ones of a new contract imo. And he'd get that pay rise when he move to a new club anyway.
Tbf, I think both football and financial matters were well considered. Smart move indeed.
United wouldn't agree to a buyout clause.
At United manager has a lot of say in Transfers. Deal wasn't impossible to get one but just would have been bad business.
The figures of the operation #Håland to the #BorussiaDortmund : 30 million for the card (20 clause, 10 to the father) + 15 million commission for #Raiola . The player signs the contract until 2024 from 6 net that rise to 8 from the third year with a rescission clause. #calciomercato#BVB
I'm sure they have a say in who gets signed but do you think they have a hand in the actual details of the contract? I would have thought Fergie was the last one who did.
A bidding war for a player who has only played in pub leagues... footballs gone mad Jeff, footballs gone mad.
It just seems odd to gloat when they’ve practically bent over for raiola with those terms! doubt he will be there more than 2/3 years anyway
Fairly gutted to miss out on this player but with the terms being as reported we really had no choice but to walk away.
It speaks volumes about the way both clubs view signings. Dortmund clearly not too concerned by the terms because they know the likelihood will be that they get a potentially very good player for 2 to 3 seasons and then make a profit. United not interested in being a stepping stone, and rightfully so.
If the numbers are true then football really does continue to have a growing cancer at its core when an agent can receive almost as much in commission as the selling club receive. There is no way football can continue to sustain the sums of money that are going out of the game every single year.
It speaks volumes about the way both clubs view signings. Dortmund clearly not too concerned by the terms because they know the likelihood will be that they get a potentially very good player for 2 to 3 seasons and then make a profit. United not interested in being a stepping stone, and rightfully so.
If the numbers are true then football really does continue to have a growing cancer at its core when an agent can receive almost as much in commission as the selling club receive. There is no way football can continue to sustain the sums of money that are going out of the game every single year.
We should give some credit to the club when credit is due.
To OGS, Woodward, Judge or whomever. As far as I know United have never agreed to a buyout clause to a player, or to even worse commit to the players representatives to have a large slice of a future transfer fee and basically control when he leaves.
If those tabloid stories are true, good fecking riddance I say. We need to invest that money elsewhere anyways. Like midfield, midfield and Sancho.
Well.. there were also Mike Hanke and Igor de Camargo who did relatively well for him at Gladbach. Though Luuk de Jong was a massive flop, I don't think height is a factor at all, it's about technical ability which often correlates with size, so Favre usually preferred smaller attackers, because his clubs couldn't afford complete players.
At the moment Favre uses two dribblers (Sancho/Hazard) out wide and Reus as a #10/#9 hybrid who links up play centrally and then drives forward into finishing positions. I don't see Haaland playing either role. So for him to start matches Favre would need to deviate from a system that has served him very well (results against Leipzig and Hoffenheim aside, which were both unfortunate imho) and it's hard to speculate what that might look like.
I think the second part of your post is probably right though. Favre had already more than one foot out the door after the fairly disappointing October/November matches and there is no credit left if the team's form dips again. I reckon there's a 50/50 chance at best that he will survive the summer and thus it makes little sense to fine tune the squad around his needs, especially when you can land such a high profile transfer.
More like it speaks volumes about the clubs themselves, Dortmund are just happy being a selling club and the '2nd' best side in Germany
Why get Raiola involved? I really don’t get it. He walks away with more than his Dad in this transfer ffs. Get this leech out of football.
Why is the player's Dad getting anything at all?
I think he is or was his agent/advisor before Raiola got involved
He's the agent isn't he. They just used Raiola as an adviser.
I hate it when player's family get involved to the extent they are earning big money. Seems gross.
If our muppets are depressed spare a thought for the RB Leipzig fans
Why would any manager have a hand in the actual details of the contract? Its not like Sir Alex was a City lawyer either.
If you do mean things like release clauses and sell-on clauses which has been reported regarding Haaland, that should not be down to the manager ever. It should be club policy as to what to allow, and I for one I am happy that United seem to have taken a stand of what IMO is starting to be malpractice in footballing Europe.
He's following the Neymar Snr example. Apparently he'll get a nice slice of the next transfer fee too.
So they are paying 45 million and only 20 is going to the selling club?
Yuk, yuk, yuk. How the hell is that allowed?
Think his dad is his agent and Raiola was just doing a rather expensive advisory role.
Good addition for Dortmund, and sensible career move for him. Give him 2-3 seasons there and if continues his progress he’d have the pick of his clubs - especially as Aguero, Suarez, Higuain, Benzema, Lewandowski, Cavani are all in their 30’s iirc.
Its sperm tax.
Look at sanchez for example . We ain't agreeing to it until the manager definitely sure he wants the player. It was crazy crazy money . If Jose had said no, it wouldn't have proceeded. Ole would have been presented the detail of the contract and asked if he really really wants the player. I think more than anything release clause was a major red flag for Ole. He wouldn't want someone who isn't 100%.