If he becomes world class, the like of Juve, Real will do it.
Erling Haaland | Dortmund player
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It isn’t though. Look at Martial for instance, as much as he’s played, this is his 5th season at the club and the first one he gets to be undisputed starting no.9, and that after we flogged off our previous £75m striker. Imagine how much further along he would be in his development if he didn’t have to shuffle between the left wing and the bench for 2.5 years under Mourinho.
Competition is good and all, but there’s a reason most clubs send out young players on loan at 18-19-20 once they’ve outgrown reserve football, unless there’s a clear path for them in the first team. They need to get as much minutes as possible at that stage.
I would take these reports whose sole purpose it is to explain why United didn't get/sign a highly rated player/youngster with a grain of salt.
It really is annoying. However hippos are surprisingly fast, so I don't think this is a correct comparison. I'd say we're more like koalas slowly burning alive in Australian forest fires.
Agree with the clubs decision in that case
You obviously would.
My point is that if he's as good as he's supposed to be he'd walk into United's first team and should back himself to do so.
Thanks for the correction
Fergie was right about Raiola.
Atm I strongly doubt this tbh.
If the reports about buyout clause and sale percentage are true then money is exactly what he and his father is after imo.
He is an unproven 19 years old so no way we could offer him a lucrative deal. I'd say 100 £k a week max, probably with a backup status contract, not even first team player.
Dortmund on the other hand must view him as a first team player. They'd offer him around 50 £k a week imo.
Which mean over 2-3 years here he would make an additional sum of 5 to 7 £m compared to Dortmund.
I have no idea about how much is his buyout clause and share percentage of the next sale at Dortmund but given that Raiola was involved, the buyout must be not too high to easily move him around but not too low so the shares would be sufficient. And the resale percentage must be pretty high. I'd say 60 £m and 25 % or even more. Which means 15 £m at the least next time he moves to another club. Not counting they'll get another signing on fee, agent fee compared to the move to Utd.
So, it's all about math and money imo. Which should be no surprise considering Raiola was involved.
But Dortmund is a second-rate club. All those reports do make sense seeing as they're a stepping-stone. Neither Juventus nor United nor any other historical big club would agree to the terms being put forward.
Delighted that we didn't get him. Honestly.
That's not what he's saying.
I'm just perplexed as to why the rags didn't report on the potential buyout clause before the deal was finalised. Seems very convenient and happens all too often. Deal gets done and suddenly the club that lost out lists tonnes of reason as to why they backed out. Release clauses can be renegotiated anyway, they're not that big of a deal, seeing as our policy is to reward our young players who are performing with bumper contracts anyway. Personally, I don't believe it. I don't blame the club though. I just think Haland chose Dortmund for footballing reasons.
It sounds like damage control from the club.
We need a midfielder more and for all the transfer fee is small, the extra cash to his dad and Raiola pushes the cost up and we would likely pay him even more than Dortmund. That is money not going on a midfielder. The buyout clause is a nightmare and his dad and Raiola's cut of it.
Juve agreed to a release clause when they bought De Ligt, and I believe Raiola was involved in that transaction too.
The agent involved should raise a red flag.
God, the acolytes are dense. This club is pathetic at all levels and you're eating up the propaganda for breakfast, lunch and dinner. They love being linked with every transfer because the clicks mean more ad revenue. There's no efficient working relationship with agents. There's no vision. I can't wait for Ed Woodward's own 'Winning Edge: How to build a league winning side with a banker's mentality'.
People drinking the Koolaid and thinking Norwegian citizenship coupled with a manager with no stature in the game is going to lead to him signing. Unless they overpay by 40%, Sancho isn't coming. He left Pep and City to go to Dortmund just to come and play for OGS?? A segment of this fanbase is seriously deluded. We're an atrociously run amusement park at this point.
If this is true than I agree with the club 100%, anyone who wants to use United as a stepping stone has no business at the club.
More urgent matters that need attending. Get a number 10, RW and midfielder in first. We can look at the striking options then.
Not saying midfield shouldn't be a priority. We are desperate for a striker too though, and all the add ons in the world still make this a low fee. Certainly when compared against going rate.
Off to the Odegaard thread when he is mismanaged by Madrid next season
Yeah, all is over, no hope.
Well we did want him but pulled out due to demands.
As Dortmund fan I’d imagine it’s not pleasant for you to hear that he’d only move there because Utd doesn’t agree to a release clause, but do you actually have any cause to believe we’d agree to one?
He’s an 18 year old kid who’ve mostly played in the Norwegian and Austrian league. Even Cristiano Ronaldo didn’t get to be undisputed starter for us at 18, and that’s with no one of the same age vying for the same spot.
Just think if we bought a striker it needs to be someone as a backup with experience, not another kid.
High caliber players dream of Lucien Favre at night?
feck Dortmund I hope they remain a second rate club
Forever in Bayerns shadow.
Forever in Bayerns shadow.
Feck off.
Oh man, that's pretty fecked up, thought he was nailed to join us. He's made a right choice though, so did BVB, we fecked it up.
And some fans thought he’d come here to be a Martial backup. 
Im very disappointed.
And for that price he is a fecking bargin.
Dortmund have gotten themselves a great striker,will be interesting to see Sancho and Haaland link up.
Hope we go for a midfielder or a 10 in January then.
And for that price he is a fecking bargin.
Dortmund have gotten themselves a great striker,will be interesting to see Sancho and Haaland link up.
Hope we go for a midfielder or a 10 in January then.
Odds on Martial to pull his hamstring at the Emirates and Haaland to bag a hat-trick in his debut?
I honestly think not buying anymore Raiola players is a great thing. Klopp and Pep don't go near Raiola players with a barge pole. We need to take a leaf from their book.
If Haaland scored 20 in his first season here, Raiola would be demanding increase in salary to 500,000 a week, or else he forces a move to Madrid. We don't need that shit here anymore.
Berbatov reckons Haaland is a Lukaku clone and he could have a point. Greenwood will be our strike sensation for years to come. There's some good strikers out there if we decide to buy another. Osimhen, Timo Werner, Moussa Dembele etc
If Haaland scored 20 in his first season here, Raiola would be demanding increase in salary to 500,000 a week, or else he forces a move to Madrid. We don't need that shit here anymore.
Berbatov reckons Haaland is a Lukaku clone and he could have a point. Greenwood will be our strike sensation for years to come. There's some good strikers out there if we decide to buy another. Osimhen, Timo Werner, Moussa Dembele etc
Disappointing but not the end of the world. With Martial and Greenwood up front and Rashford as a backup, we probably need wingers, in particular a right winger and probably need another young winger to come through.
Few really lose their shit when some young player signs for other clubs
That’s assuming he wouldn’t get a new contract and a pay raise at Utd in the same timeframe, with all the sign on bonuses. Also 7m guaranteed in the bank > potential 15m few years down the line. Loss of form, illness, injuries, not getting confidence of the coach can happen.
Hopefully a plot to get us Sancho.