Title challenge is very optimistic. We need much bigger squad turnaround to get there, probably takes 4-5 years from now before we can realistically expect ETH to mount a title challenge.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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Good. Surround him with proper coaches.
Especially if he’s doing the shooting and finishing drills unlike, Benny McCarthy, everyone says Benny was great but we failed to score more than 60 goals in either PL season.
I’m excited about some of the new staff additions for next season. Hopefully it will help us implement a style of play.
I remember McCarthy getting some praise at one point though when Rashford scored an header or 2.
I think Benny was there to play good cop and the players liked him for that reason
Exactly. But why would managers want to downgrade to become a coach under another manager?
However we scored less than 60PL goals in both seasons he was our striker coach!
Only Ole improved this side of the team when he came in.
I know! I agree with you. Was just saying he got praise when Rashford scored some goals that was similar to his.
So you decide, do you want to include the 200m as the squad he inherited or in the money spent pile? can't have it both ways. Yes, and Arteta finished 8th and 8th.
So what, if players are 18 and 19 they are not good enough? I am sure you will say Mainoo is not good enough then.. probably think Southgate is a good manager then?
Okay, if the Ole/ Ralf year was a shit show, why can't I say last season was a shit show and not representative of our true level?
Because he manages Go Ahead Eagles. He's being offered a role at one of the biggest clubs in the world.
So replacement for McCarthy and MVDG
I'm still not sure why people think that being a good striker translates to being a good strikers coach.
Ruud isn’t a manager, he’s unemployed. In his one spell as manager he said himself that he’s not ready
It doesn’t, but Ruud has a lot of experience at top clubs. If he can help Hojlund or add to his game then he’s doing a good job
But Rene Hake is, I guess the question was about him?
It is how football works for some reason. Good players are expected to become good managers.
In the Netherlands Co Adriaanse once came with a famous quote about Marco van Basten becoming the manager of our national team as his first job. He said that 'A good horse doesnt make a good rider'. With how van Basten his career as a manager went and how he now reflects on it himself, Adriaanse was totally right.
Plus he brought them European football last season while they usually fight against relegation. There's no way he will top that performance and always quit on a high.
He said it in the plural form and people have asked that question about Ruud too, so just wanted to ensure that people know the context for Ruud. This other guy, don’t know anything about him but he probably doesn’t turn down United, especially having worked with ETH before
If these coach changes materialise, I’m interested to see whether Hake and RVN are ETH choices or club choices, as well as how they fit into the current coaching setup.
Would McClaren and van der Gaag be leaving? Both Hake and RVN are (or have been for RVN) been Eredivisie managers recently so they must have a strong No.2 role under ETH as a result, and we already have two No.2s in McClaren and van der Gaag.
Would McClaren and van der Gaag be leaving? Both Hake and RVN are (or have been for RVN) been Eredivisie managers recently so they must have a strong No.2 role under ETH as a result, and we already have two No.2s in McClaren and van der Gaag.
I’m still of the mind that Ruud will replace McCarthy. McCarthy is out of contract this summer and no word of a new deal
Ruud would get some welcome his first day back on the bench at OT.
100%
Wasn't that down to lack of creativity though? I can't remember us creating loads but being wasteful.
I would be disappointed if come first home league game of the season, no ‘Ruuuuuuuuddddd’ is heard from the Stretford End, as soon as the coaching staff walk along the touchline to the dugout.
See my reply just before.
There's something fishy about this Hake appointment.
Expect nothing less from this soleless club
So between ETH, McClaren, Ruud and Hake, we'll have four managers on our coaching staff. Nice.
More than likely to replace McCarthy and Ramsey, as we never replaced the latter.
Pool is facing a rebuild too, but they might squeeze a great season out of this squad yet. They are in much better shape than we are.
I prefer the coach of Go a head Hawks (Tuahs)
How many Dutch assistants does he need? Strange this. First we are shopping in the Dutch eredivisie for players and now for coaches.
The SEG pyramid scheme continues.
Happy if we're twisting at least with some of the coaching staff, we can't be any worse from it, surely. Not sure if this post is the right tone though, should I be fuming?
I have no idea what coaches do and how this is transformed to actual team performance. With strikers it's particulatly difficult.
IMO we should just focus on creating chances and it'll be good. All our forwards (Rashford, Bruno, Hojlund, Garnacho, Amad, Mount) seem to be ok at finishing chances.
Is there any "success stories" available for other clubs in terms of coaching? Or just everyone does it differently?
I'd say the coaches need to work well with the manager, that's for sure. I think if we keep changing them it's not indicating we're doing good in that department.
IMO we should just focus on creating chances and it'll be good. All our forwards (Rashford, Bruno, Hojlund, Garnacho, Amad, Mount) seem to be ok at finishing chances.
Is there any "success stories" available for other clubs in terms of coaching? Or just everyone does it differently?
I'd say the coaches need to work well with the manager, that's for sure. I think if we keep changing them it's not indicating we're doing good in that department.
He did what!!?
What the hake!?