Yup, he made some absolutely pathetic signings. The amount of money spent on attack to produce what we do is shocking. The amount & the type of goals we concede after spending so much on defense is staggering too. This guy really laid a minefield for the next manager & we are seeing the adverse effects of it.
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I included LVG because it was he who dismantled the Ferguson squad and replaced them with the likes of Rojo, Schniederlin and Falcao. He also didn’t bin Fellaini the moment he came in.
His football was dull and he was too arrogant to change his ‘philosophy’ and get it right.
Out of interest, and I am not trying to day that I disagree because ypu followed the club much closer than me obviously, but what players were let go that should have stayed? Would it be sensible to say that perhaps dismantling that squad at that time were the right thing to do, but the recruitment in replacements failed?
Now for example, City are in a pretty similiar situation to that last Ferguson team in that the core of the team has got old together. I'd say most managers would identify that as a issue and look to rectify that but not sure everyone would dare to actually go through with it at the pace you need to get quick changes. And if you miss with the replacements in that scenario it can get pretty bad very quickly.
Again from the outside, I think LvG deserves credit that he made you look pretty competive amongs the top clubs in those season despite struggling with his recruitment
ETH's damage to the squad and the fact he still had some support during his tenure shows any United are so far behind the other big clubs.
Now enjoying his popcorn…
Yeah. In a two bob league maybe.
Doesn’t translate to being a good player in the PL. Martinez looked good when we sat back and played a deep defensive line.
Trying to play expansive and a high line with De Ligt and Martinez is fecking torturous to watch. De Ligt has no guile, isn’t commanding and isn’t fast. Martinez is weak, slow, and is terrible positionally outside his eighteen yard box.
Onana is a clown and always will be. A mistake like today is only always a game or two away.
So shut up man…
The Glazers did slip my mind. I take it back Eric. Second worse thing….
Yep, I think Amorim should genuinely be given a free pass of a year and a half minus anything catastrophic happening like relegation. To clean up this absolute shit show left by ETh.
If that kind of mistake is always a game or 2 away, why doesn't he make them? It just doesn't make sense, he's not been making many mistakes.
You are like a method actor who cannot shed his latest role
Move on, my friend, you are free!
Good fecking grief. I would never, ever exchange those trophies and how good I felt after winning them.
will take many years to fix the damage done by this fraud
How fecking stupid are INEOS to publicly look for another manager, then retract on it when they couldn't find anyone and back Ten Hag again and give him £150m to spend and then sack him 5 mins later?
Not just him. Ole too
The amount of damage these 2 have done to club is going to be a big ask to reverse.
They've basically reduced us down to a midtable club between them.
Spent 600m on dross. Criminal the damage he's done.
This mess is on Ten Hag and Ratcliffe
How did Ole turn United into a mid-table club after finishing 3rd and 2nd in his only two full seasons here?
Singularly damaging figure to the club since Fergie left. Although the people who appointed him and fired him much later than they should are a close second.
Isn't really up to the manager who we buy. Most of the blame lies elsewhere for that.
The moronic spending that started under him (£80m for Maguire), the number of humiliating losses we started suffering (5-0, 6-1, 5-2, 4-0) which were rare even under the abyss prior to him, the amount of times we went on long runs of horrific form that he managed to survive and that festered a culture 0 accountability at the club.
Very stupid. There an embarrassment. Especially since Amorim would have jumped at the chance in the summer as he didn’t wanna leave mid way through the season but did. We could have literally paid for anyone in the summer
I wasn’t a fan of Ole, but nah not buying he did as much damage as ETH. His big two signings were Maguire and Sancho. The latter is someone everyone wanted at the club and didn’t work out due to his attitude. ETH spent big money on a midget CB with no pace, a winger who doesn’t do anything and a striker who is far from ready. Oh and wasted money on Casemiro, who we are now stuck with unless Saudi bail us out.
This moron did absolutely massive damage to us. Worst rebuild you will ever see.
The price of a player needs to stop getting mentioned. The manager isn’t responsible for how much we pay for a player. That’s down to the owners to back out and find someone els. Ole had the longest away run going and had us playing our best football. Ronaldo cost him is job. Ruined the team he was building
The club put a ludicrous amount of faith in one man to turn it all around. But the repercussions of his tenure will be felt for years to come. The squad he left behind is so ordinary riddled with average Erevidise and/or Dutch players. The fact it cost the club hundreds of millions of pounds just rubs salt into the wound.
You can't just level the moronic spending at Ole when Mourinho and Van Gaal did the same (van Gaal arguably the worst in the market of all). Finished 6th under Mourinho but it was Ole who made United a mid-table club? Only United manager to score over 70 goals in the league. Madness to link what's happening in nearly 2025 to Ole, move on ffs.
The worst United manager ever. I would have Moyes back any day over this guy. fecking glad he is gone.
He brought in Malacia didn’t he:
Mug.
Mug.
He has contributed along with Murtough, Arnold and the Glazers to replace a squad full of chaff with a squad full of chaff.
I still think the fanbase's reaction to the FA Cup final win was the biggest contributor to that, one win just completely wiped everyone's memories of the absolute disgrace of a season we'd just had and you'd have rabid fans jumping down your throat for daring to suggest he should be sacked.
He's the third worst thing to happen to United since Fergie retired. After Glazers and Woodward
Considering the fan reaction to the increased ticket prices and other staff losing jobs I highly doubt Sir Jim put too much weight into what any of us thought.
He has really set us back with his poor purchases. It'll take a couple of years to get rid of the dross he has filled in this squad. The new management team and Ruben have a much tougher task than Edu and Arteta had at Arsenal.
Hopefully he gets a job soon at a club with funds to buy overpaid players.
He had veto power on signings. So I'm sure he influenced who we bought. Also Murtough and co. probably just trusted him too much. Granted the exorbitant fees we paid wasn't on ETH.
It's a process.. fecking moron, destroyed us
So our little Dutch/Eredivisie/ex-Ajax army is just a coincidence huh?
The crap and shortsighted recruitment started way earlier. I agree with you, Ole did at least the same damage as ETH, but mostly responsable are club and decision makers because it should have been them, stepping up and avoiding it. That being said, any manager would have had his ugly spots on the recruitment record during this time. Prices went bonkers. And thats not me trying to excuse him - thought he was more or less a waste of time from the start on but not only didn't the team move on, I would agree that some of the seriously bad attitude really kicked in during his time. His favoritism played a big part in that.
He wasn't really onto something - he played McFred, brought in an aging Varane on big wages and most likely would have been all over Casemiro just as well. His league finishes are overstated quite a bit and at this point, the football gets romanticised to a huge degree. People talking about "best football since Fergie" and "most entertaining" must have forgotten all those crappy 1:0 wins where we looked like shot for 60minutes only to get back to some sort of average and snatch something from the opponent. We were absolutely not onto something at any moment of that journey and while Ronaldo surely played his part, adding even another "difficult-to-handle-tool" into an already barely functional team, he certainly wasn't the one thing that "ruined an otherwise well drilled unit"
It shouldn't be, and many of us said as much before ETH was hired. But unfortunately, for some stupid reason it was largely up to him.
This can't be stressed enough.
Y'all out here talking 'bout signings this and that the real damage he did on the players' mentality
Even in his good season you lost 7-0 at anfield
Even in his good season you lost 7-0 at anfield
Its the same comments after every manager gets sacked, it was Ole and Woodward last time