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Erik ten Hag | Currently unemployed
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Were United not owned and operated by the Glazers under the rock which you live?
Might fancy West Ham
Reckon he do well there?
I didn't deny that, did I? And if you look carefully at my first post I mentioned the times they approached Kovac and Nagelsmann as examples for choosing other people who were in a job to be their manager instead of EtH, not Kompany (who also was in a job).
Wonder if he was offered the Leicester job before RvN.
The way he dealt with Amad just says it all for him, and the fact he broke all the wrong records. I think he will struggle to get a big club again.
But they did approach Ten Hag.
The former is hardly career destroying. Plenty of top managers have made mistakes in player selection which are proven wrong in hindsight.
On the latter it feels like we've had a never ending string of managers breaking unwanted records, I don't see how Ten Hag stands out - the only real exception for me is the 7-0.
I think he will prove people wrong at another club, but he either 1. needs to have learnt from his experience and play a style of football suited to whatever squad he is working with, similar to his first season here 2. be fortunate to end up working with a squad immediately suited to his tactical style
No chance. They are trying to stay in the Premier League.
Bournemouth 0-3 at home.
Palace 0-4 away.
Spurs 0-3 at home.
Liverpool 0-3 at home.
Multiple beatings against City.
That awful 2023/24 group stage in the CL.
Our worst ever finish to a PL season.
I don't think he is a bad manager, just a bad fit for United with this squad, at this time. What killed him was bringing in so many of "how own" players and still going backwards year on year.
If he goes to another club and does well, it doesn't prove anyone wrong. I don't think anyone really thinks he is a terrible manager, very few managers are. For a manager to do well, the stars really have to align - right players, right time, right backing from the club etc etc.
He'll win a major trophy, be it a league title or European Cup, before United win any. You can bookmark this comment if you like.
Everyone uses Amad as a stick to beat Ten Hag, but maybe it was his handling of Amad that is allowing him to flourish at this point in his career. Had he chucked him into the deep end last Jan when he returned to the team, when the team was struggling, under a lot of pressure from fans and media and Amad didn't perform then the fans and media would be all over him like they are Garnacho now. Maybe he wasn't ready physically, maybe he didn't understand his role in defending. Whatever the reasons, maybe there were improvements that were made through coaching in that time that has allowed him to evolve and become the player he is now, or maybe it was a gradual integration into the team was what he needed to reach his potential. TBH, we don't know and anything anyone says is just an assumption, and usually one to satisfy a view they already have.
Everyone is an armchair manager but we are dealing with a small fraction of the information that the coaches at the club have, I trust the experts to make the right decisions, and when it comes to youth players, there is more to integrating them than, well he's hit the right age, chuck 'em in.
He was bloody awful (and delusional) and inflated our own transfer fees to line the pockets of his agent
I’ve seen delusional posts and now I’ve seen your post. ETH can do no wrong in your eyes.
No chance, unless it's a second-rate league (e.g., Eredivisie)
Nah, you’re clutching at straws hard. A far more likely explanation is that Ten Hag was just not very good and mismanaged both the team tactics and the personnel. And he was rightly sacked for that and we’ll be better off as a club with him gone.
If my post is so delusional than take it apart point by point, but you won't, because you know I am right. And I don't mean right that Ten Hag perfectly developed Amad, I don't know that, you don't know that, but right in the sense that none of us know what would have went on behind the scenes and how things would have played out had Ten Hag stuck Amad on the right wing last Jan and played him consistently through an extremely tough period of the club. I didn't definitely say anything, I don't know if Ten Hag's handling of him improved his development or hindered it, I just offered a potential counter to all the people that are privy to the same information I am, but act like they know exactly what happened at Carrington and exactly how Amad would have developed in an alternate timeline. If anything, I would say the people assuming Amad would have performed at the level we have been seeing the last few weeks last season, when we had no defenders fit, barely a midfield, an unperforming attack are potentially the delusional ones. However, I would say no one is delusional, because we are all just football fans making assumptions based on our own biases.
Erik Ten Hag can do wrong, he did plenty wrong like staking his United career on the performances of players like Rashford, when it was obvious to everyone Rashford wasn't performing as a player and he wasn't performing for Ten Hag specifically. It was very weird he stuck by him. Also he didn't rotate enough, it was a criticism coming from Ajax, he sticks with his best players all the time and never rotates, so yes, a flawed human like everyone else, capable of making good and bad decisions.
Hahaha! Yesh
Why the feck would Bayern want ten Hag. He's a terrible manager.
Your opinion. Not shared by the industry.
more chance he never sees CL football again than wins it
He's never going to coach Bayern,
On the contrary, West Ham seems to love their big names who either failed at other PL clubs or are otherwise washed up. Seems nailed on to manage them at some point.
I'll believe it when I see it.
The one where he instructed the club to wait all summer on DeJong even though it was blatantly fecking obvious he didn't want to leave Barca. Then when he eventually did accept it wasn't happening he had the club scrambling around late in the window.
You can't absolve Ten Hag of all blame when he was the one pulling the strings on which players to go for and when.
Shite manager, hope he continues to fail
I feel ill watching this United team. How did we allow this fraud to spend all that money building this shite.
That all depends on where he goes, if he goes to a team spamming the title you may be correct, not much of a prediction. He left us in a mess.
I think you are the one who is possibly confused by the concept of “ownership” and “running the operations”.
Glazers are shite scumbag owners who leaches from the club but they are not the ones running the day to day operations of the business. Unless of course, you believe that Avram or Joel is personally responsible for negotiating and communicating that with ETH.
So you don’t understand the correlation between the price and when the transfer was made. Learn.
Worse thing to have ever happened to Manchester United.
I would exchange those two cup wins for no trophies and for him to have signed no players.
This guy and his fecking awful awful signings have set us back three years minimum.
We literally need to replace almost every player he signed at the club (apart from Mazraoui and maybe Hojlund) to be able to ever really compete again. De Ligt, Martinez, Antony, Mount, Onana. Are all never ever going to be good enough to take us back to any sort of level of elite ness.
I would exchange those two cup wins for no trophies and for him to have signed no players.
This guy and his fecking awful awful signings have set us back three years minimum.
We literally need to replace almost every player he signed at the club (apart from Mazraoui and maybe Hojlund) to be able to ever really compete again. De Ligt, Martinez, Antony, Mount, Onana. Are all never ever going to be good enough to take us back to any sort of level of elite ness.
Yup, far worse than the Glazers, or Woodward, or even LVG. Shut up man.
DeLigt, Martinez and Onana are all good players.
No, by far and away the Glazers are the worst thing that happened to United.
Ten Hag was just one of many errors made since they came in.
Yeah I'll never forgive this fraud for how much he's fecked our club over.
Don’t know why people keep repeating that MDL was an ETH signing. Clearly didn’t have transfer control this summer, it was an opportunistic INEOS signing
Of course he had control, his contract was not renegotiated. It was just extended for a year due to an option for a further year.
From the outside I have to say Van Gaal is a weird shout. You looked very good at times with him with a weak squad. I think if he came in now and did the job he did he would be called a genius. There were still expectations back then that United would just suddenly get back on top on their own. But under Van Gaal is the only time during the post-Ferguson years I have thought that you at times looked a better team than us.
For what it's worth, I'm fairly sure already that Amorim can do a similiar job to coach the team, it looks a whole lot more cohesive already
We should have known when he refused to work with Ragnick. If reports are to be believed was suggesting some very good players who have now gone on to become really good.
Instead we signed everyone ETH wanted, even Antony against the recommendations of our scouts.
But it’s not only ETH, Mourinho, Van Gaal
and Ole have all contributed to the mess we are in now.
Instead we signed everyone ETH wanted, even Antony against the recommendations of our scouts.
But it’s not only ETH, Mourinho, Van Gaal
and Ole have all contributed to the mess we are in now.