So what Dutch former player will he bring with him? My bet would be jaap Stam maybe.. he’s already said he’d love to return as a coach and help us get back to the top. Van Persie would be a good option aswell… help our young forwards with finishing.
Erik ten Hag | Currently unemployed
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Someone rogue would have hacked that
Someone rogue would have hacked that
I mean, you don't need be the lad with the glasses in Goldeneye... literally anybody can go on and edit it as long as the article isn't locked or protected. That's what wikipedia is.
True but youd assume a page like that for Manchester United or even for Eric Ten Hag had some better security!
I love second round interviews.
Hope they follow standard HR procedure and tell him to do an iq test.
Hope they follow standard HR procedure and tell him to do an iq test.
Do other clubs do this, and the media just doesn't pick up on it? Are we feeding the media all this for some reason? Are we just undertaking a bizarrely long and uncommon managerial recruitment? I'd believe any of the three.
The apprentice.
Article says ETH camp have concerns he may not get it due to experience. It says we’ve spoken to poch already - there would be no fee involved as PSG willing to let him go. A third manager has also been interviewed - not Enrique or Lopetegui…so who is the mystery candidate!?
It says it's semi-protected. They've corrected it now
Probably Brendan Rodgers
PL experience term is getting on my nerve. Look how our PL experienced transfer signing has worked out.
Is weird isn't it? Identify your target, see if they're interested, get your man. See Man City...
Nah, no chance whatsoever
Awwwh sunnuvabitch.
Is Bravo Sanchez available? Sounds exotic! What’s his record like?!
Ugh Utd lose this obsession with Pochettino and go for the option who is risky but could be brilliant given time
A sign of Utd still living in the past
It's going to be Poch innit
Will end up at city when pep leaves
Don't blame him if we choose Pochettino
FFS this is like us “preparing” a bid for Arturo Vidal for 3 summer transfer windows.
Anyway, I’ve seen a YouTube compilation of Ten Haag, he looks rapid, sign him up!
Hang on, a second and then a final round of interviews? When is this all supposed to happen during Ajax run in to the end of the season?? Ffs calamitous, we’ll be way behind by summer.
Nobody is going to be announced until the end of April. This is obvious, no point getting wound up about it.
A second AND final round. Not a second ‘then’ a final round.
Ancelotti .
As someone who is interviewing for jobs right now and has a huge third round interview tomorrow, ferk third round interviews. You’re not finding anything new out that you haven’t already in the first two. So good for ETH for only having to endure this torture twice. Three + is too many.
They should have done it X Factor style. Dermot O'Leary presenting, the lot.
Erik you look like a Manchester United manager, you sound like a Manchester United manager, I want you in the final!
Erik you look like a Manchester United manager, you sound like a Manchester United manager, I want you in the final!
If I was ten hag I'd feel insulted at having to give numerous rounds of interviews. Good thing barcelona, bayern munich, chelsea, city and dippers don't need a manager because they would have swooped in by now while we dither with a "process". Don't get me wrong I have nothing against a process but the process should mainly be on our end in researching managers who are suitable and once a candidate is identified then he should be contacted. This multiple interviews is a bunch of bollocks, what will the board learn from a third interview that it hadn't earlier ?
This job isn't a run of the mill job which numerous people can all do without much variance in output, on the contrary this job is a very specialized job which only a few people can do and you don't let a capable person hang around while you dither. A top quality manager/coach is in a employees market and not in a employers market.
This job isn't a run of the mill job which numerous people can all do without much variance in output, on the contrary this job is a very specialized job which only a few people can do and you don't let a capable person hang around while you dither. A top quality manager/coach is in a employees market and not in a employers market.
Klopp, Guardiola, Tuchel, Wenger, Mourinho etc all had success without PL experience. It’s just a weird idea.
2nd interview could be about personal terms while the 1st was about his vision etc.
I think the endless rounds of interviews is just the club, or more accurately the Poch-in faction, doing its best to frustrate ETH in the hope that he is pissed off and tells us to do one. The club has been pushed into a corner by the fans' clear preference for ETH and the only way out they can see is if they can delay the appointment long enough for him to get frustrated or another big club to step in.
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United fan and famous big brother Tobias Schweinsteiger used to play under Ten hag at Bayern Munich 2. Here's his say (google translate):
- When I first met him, in the wardrobe in Bavaria, I remember how warm he was as a human being. He shook hands with each and every one of us. He looked deep into the eyes of each of us. I remember it because this was completely unusual in Germany. We were used to the coaches being authoritarian.
- Another thing I never forget is the workouts. They were so long. Sometimes I had to tell him that even though I liked the sessions, the group of players thought they were too long. They were actually so long that it was talked about throughout the club.
- The first team could have a passing exercise. They spent maybe 75 minutes completing it perfectly. They only used one ball.
- We were going through the same exercise, but we were not perfect. We needed a whole net of balls. It took 75 minutes, 90 minutes, two hours and we were still out on the training field. Several times we were out in the field for two and a half hours, he says.
Why? Yes, because Erik ten Hag is a football perfectionist.
It took so long because we on the 2nd team were not perfect, and Erik was masterful in details. He followed every pass. He coached every touch. I remember he kept shouting "no bouncy ball, no bouncy ball." He was so extremely concerned that the passes should not bounce across the grass. They had to go bang, bang from player to player. Therefore, it sometimes took two and a half hours before we managed to complete what the first team managed in half the time.
- Erik was obsessed with the details, says Schweinsteiger.
However, the drill gave results.
94 goals were 23 goals than Bayern 2 managed in two more games the season before. It was clearly most in the Regional League, and it gave a clear league victory.
Only a giant goalkeeper mistake in overtime in the play-off final ruined the promotion.
Ten Hag's victory percentage as Bayern 2 coach is also better than others who have tried. It all happened at the same time as Ten Hag was able to absorb learning from Pep Guardiola, who had just come in as Bayern's head coach.
He inspired me to become a coach
However, it was not Guardiola, but Ten Hag who left lasting traces in Tobias Schweinsteiger.
It was about the way Ten Hag led, the way Ten Hag trained Bayern 2 and the way he treated people.
The Dutchman, who was then in his 40s, became a huge inspiration for the big brother of football legend Bastian Schweinsteiger.
Schweinsteiger had previously been coached by greats such as Klaus Augenthaler, Mehmet Scholl, current Southampton manager Ralph Hasenhüttl and current Augsburg coach Markus Weinzierl, but Ten Hag was something completely different.
In fact, Ten Hag was so inspiring that Schweinsteiger himself chose to become a football coach.
- Erik was so incredibly good. He opened my eyes to how to watch football, says Tobias Schweinsteiger.
He eventually had to tell me, “Tobi, you can not think like a coach right now. You're still a player. That's why you have to think like a player ».
- But he added at the same time: "Do you want to become a coach? Then you can train the U15 team next Wednesday ». I did so, enjoyed it and then they invited me back.
- All this happened because of Erik.
- I must also add that there were challenges in the group at the time. There were two groupings of players in the locker room. It was the young and talented players, and then there were the workers, with people like me. There was a problem getting the two groups to go in the same direction. Erik also tried to fix it, but without really succeeding.
- When I went to Amsterdam on a study trip a few years ago, we talked about it. Then he said: "Tobi, as a coach you often try to make things happen, but it is not always successful."
- However, he learned from it, and all I hear from Ajax is that they now have a good group there.
- Then it is important to add that it was not like that in Ajax when he got there. There were problems with players, culture and achievements, but everything changed with Erik. I think it is because he brings with him such great football knowledge and has such a clear identity, says Schweinsteiger.
Need other types of players
Tobias Schweinsteiger grew up as a United supporter, and still follows what is happening at the club. Like so many others, it has also been tough for him to see the fall, a fall that for him became extra tough when his little brother Bastian had his United dream ruined when José Mourinho came in the doors.
He has no faith that Pochettino or even Erik ten Hag can make United a real gold candidate in a very short time.
- No Unfortunately. It will probably take some time, he says.
As supporters, we talk all the time about maybe being able to fight for the gold next season. That is the dream, but as I see it, there is no chance for United now. I really want to highlight Arsenal. Now they create a new group of players, a new philosophy, a new style and have a good development with it under Mikel Arteta, but in United they need other players to achieve this.
- Exactly those players, by the way, I think Erik can find. For United, it is not about finding the biggest stars, but players who may be a little worse individually, but who can also make the team - the collective - stronger.
- The question is mostly whether the United supporters can accept this type of player.
- At least I can not see that there are enough selfish players in United now, and you need selfish players to play the football both Ralf Rangnick and Erik ten Hag want. Just look at how they play in Ajax. You need the selfless players to take the races that open the rooms. These are the players United need.
- United's goal now is to get up to the level Manchester City and Liverpool are at. If Erik had come to City, as they were set up when Pep came, then there would have been no problem, I think. Then he would have success. But look at the team Klopp came to in Liverpool. That squad was not as talented. He needed 2-3 years to change that.
United need real leaders, some clear ones like individualists and real workers. Then that mix of players must have time to develop. The problem now is that I can not really see who the real leaders are, says Schweinsteiger.
- Will you be elated on his behalf or scared on his behalf if he got the United job?
- Excited. As I see it, he is one of the best coaches. Especially when it comes to football. I have seen it myself with my own eyes.
- Then it is a little harder to know how he is as a group leader. It's not something you can watch on videos. Therefore, it is more difficult to say how he can possibly succeed in a difficult group, but in Ajax he has developed a very good group.
He has also developed all the teams he has been in. First Go Ahead Eagles, with promotion. Then Bayern, then Utrecht, with 4-4-2 and diamond formation, which was something new in the Netherlands where they are mostly used to 4-3-3. I will be elated because in that case he will come to United with a very clear philosophy.
- But scared? No. I was more scared under Ole Gunnar Solskjær since I then never knew what we got. Yes, United could win games then too, but it was often because of individual performances and not so often because of the team. There was something missing at the base then.
I also think that Erik's team, with the ball, will be much more exciting to watch than Ralf Rangnicks United is. The key, however, is what I have already mentioned - he needs players who are not selfish, players who put the collective first.
- Now, when everyone in United does their job and follows the game plan, it looks very good, but they are not mentally strong enough to complete it through 90 minutes.
- Rangnick's system is really quite simple. It's about pressure and then scoring less than six seconds after winning the ball. The problem in United is that there are individual players who like to have six seconds with the ball alone before they center it further, says Schweinsteiger.
Gold match in three years will be good
He is excited about what Ten Hag will choose if he gets the offer, since the Dutchman himself has repeatedly told Schweinsteiger that patience is important.
- Going to United now will be a big decision for him.
- 99 percent of all coaches would take the United job, but if you are among the five who can really get the job then you are at a level where you can ask yourself different questions. Will this be right? What is good about United? What is not good? What do I really have now where I am? What will happen in one or two years? Is Liverpool coming then? Is City coming? Are the Spanish top clubs coming?
- But yes, it will be exciting if he gets the job. I think it will be a good choice.
- I see it as follows: If United make a choice that allows them to actually compete for the league gold in three years, then the choice they make this summer will be a perfect choice, but for that to happen, they must develop both the club and the team, says Tobias Schweinsteiger.
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- When I first met him, in the wardrobe in Bavaria, I remember how warm he was as a human being. He shook hands with each and every one of us. He looked deep into the eyes of each of us. I remember it because this was completely unusual in Germany. We were used to the coaches being authoritarian.
- Another thing I never forget is the workouts. They were so long. Sometimes I had to tell him that even though I liked the sessions, the group of players thought they were too long. They were actually so long that it was talked about throughout the club.
- The first team could have a passing exercise. They spent maybe 75 minutes completing it perfectly. They only used one ball.
- We were going through the same exercise, but we were not perfect. We needed a whole net of balls. It took 75 minutes, 90 minutes, two hours and we were still out on the training field. Several times we were out in the field for two and a half hours, he says.
Why? Yes, because Erik ten Hag is a football perfectionist.
It took so long because we on the 2nd team were not perfect, and Erik was masterful in details. He followed every pass. He coached every touch. I remember he kept shouting "no bouncy ball, no bouncy ball." He was so extremely concerned that the passes should not bounce across the grass. They had to go bang, bang from player to player. Therefore, it sometimes took two and a half hours before we managed to complete what the first team managed in half the time.
- Erik was obsessed with the details, says Schweinsteiger.
However, the drill gave results.
94 goals were 23 goals than Bayern 2 managed in two more games the season before. It was clearly most in the Regional League, and it gave a clear league victory.
Only a giant goalkeeper mistake in overtime in the play-off final ruined the promotion.
Ten Hag's victory percentage as Bayern 2 coach is also better than others who have tried. It all happened at the same time as Ten Hag was able to absorb learning from Pep Guardiola, who had just come in as Bayern's head coach.
He inspired me to become a coach
However, it was not Guardiola, but Ten Hag who left lasting traces in Tobias Schweinsteiger.
It was about the way Ten Hag led, the way Ten Hag trained Bayern 2 and the way he treated people.
The Dutchman, who was then in his 40s, became a huge inspiration for the big brother of football legend Bastian Schweinsteiger.
Schweinsteiger had previously been coached by greats such as Klaus Augenthaler, Mehmet Scholl, current Southampton manager Ralph Hasenhüttl and current Augsburg coach Markus Weinzierl, but Ten Hag was something completely different.
In fact, Ten Hag was so inspiring that Schweinsteiger himself chose to become a football coach.
- Erik was so incredibly good. He opened my eyes to how to watch football, says Tobias Schweinsteiger.
He eventually had to tell me, “Tobi, you can not think like a coach right now. You're still a player. That's why you have to think like a player ».
- But he added at the same time: "Do you want to become a coach? Then you can train the U15 team next Wednesday ». I did so, enjoyed it and then they invited me back.
- All this happened because of Erik.
- I must also add that there were challenges in the group at the time. There were two groupings of players in the locker room. It was the young and talented players, and then there were the workers, with people like me. There was a problem getting the two groups to go in the same direction. Erik also tried to fix it, but without really succeeding.
- When I went to Amsterdam on a study trip a few years ago, we talked about it. Then he said: "Tobi, as a coach you often try to make things happen, but it is not always successful."
- However, he learned from it, and all I hear from Ajax is that they now have a good group there.
- Then it is important to add that it was not like that in Ajax when he got there. There were problems with players, culture and achievements, but everything changed with Erik. I think it is because he brings with him such great football knowledge and has such a clear identity, says Schweinsteiger.
Need other types of players
Tobias Schweinsteiger grew up as a United supporter, and still follows what is happening at the club. Like so many others, it has also been tough for him to see the fall, a fall that for him became extra tough when his little brother Bastian had his United dream ruined when José Mourinho came in the doors.
He has no faith that Pochettino or even Erik ten Hag can make United a real gold candidate in a very short time.
- No Unfortunately. It will probably take some time, he says.
As supporters, we talk all the time about maybe being able to fight for the gold next season. That is the dream, but as I see it, there is no chance for United now. I really want to highlight Arsenal. Now they create a new group of players, a new philosophy, a new style and have a good development with it under Mikel Arteta, but in United they need other players to achieve this.
- Exactly those players, by the way, I think Erik can find. For United, it is not about finding the biggest stars, but players who may be a little worse individually, but who can also make the team - the collective - stronger.
- The question is mostly whether the United supporters can accept this type of player.
- At least I can not see that there are enough selfish players in United now, and you need selfish players to play the football both Ralf Rangnick and Erik ten Hag want. Just look at how they play in Ajax. You need the selfless players to take the races that open the rooms. These are the players United need.
- United's goal now is to get up to the level Manchester City and Liverpool are at. If Erik had come to City, as they were set up when Pep came, then there would have been no problem, I think. Then he would have success. But look at the team Klopp came to in Liverpool. That squad was not as talented. He needed 2-3 years to change that.
United need real leaders, some clear ones like individualists and real workers. Then that mix of players must have time to develop. The problem now is that I can not really see who the real leaders are, says Schweinsteiger.
- Will you be elated on his behalf or scared on his behalf if he got the United job?
- Excited. As I see it, he is one of the best coaches. Especially when it comes to football. I have seen it myself with my own eyes.
- Then it is a little harder to know how he is as a group leader. It's not something you can watch on videos. Therefore, it is more difficult to say how he can possibly succeed in a difficult group, but in Ajax he has developed a very good group.
He has also developed all the teams he has been in. First Go Ahead Eagles, with promotion. Then Bayern, then Utrecht, with 4-4-2 and diamond formation, which was something new in the Netherlands where they are mostly used to 4-3-3. I will be elated because in that case he will come to United with a very clear philosophy.
- But scared? No. I was more scared under Ole Gunnar Solskjær since I then never knew what we got. Yes, United could win games then too, but it was often because of individual performances and not so often because of the team. There was something missing at the base then.
I also think that Erik's team, with the ball, will be much more exciting to watch than Ralf Rangnicks United is. The key, however, is what I have already mentioned - he needs players who are not selfish, players who put the collective first.
- Now, when everyone in United does their job and follows the game plan, it looks very good, but they are not mentally strong enough to complete it through 90 minutes.
- Rangnick's system is really quite simple. It's about pressure and then scoring less than six seconds after winning the ball. The problem in United is that there are individual players who like to have six seconds with the ball alone before they center it further, says Schweinsteiger.
Gold match in three years will be good
He is excited about what Ten Hag will choose if he gets the offer, since the Dutchman himself has repeatedly told Schweinsteiger that patience is important.
- Going to United now will be a big decision for him.
- 99 percent of all coaches would take the United job, but if you are among the five who can really get the job then you are at a level where you can ask yourself different questions. Will this be right? What is good about United? What is not good? What do I really have now where I am? What will happen in one or two years? Is Liverpool coming then? Is City coming? Are the Spanish top clubs coming?
- But yes, it will be exciting if he gets the job. I think it will be a good choice.
- I see it as follows: If United make a choice that allows them to actually compete for the league gold in three years, then the choice they make this summer will be a perfect choice, but for that to happen, they must develop both the club and the team, says Tobias Schweinsteiger.
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Now you know why the players want poch instead. Lazy fecks.
Imagine his first training session with half our players screwing up 5 yard passes and rashford running into brick walls and not tracking back.
That first training should be telecast live on mutv
.I really hope we go for him and support him fully. No imposing Pogba, Ronaldo or Martial on him. Let him decide who fits into his system.