Erik ten Hag | Currently unemployed

"Hi Mr. Arnold, hope you are fine and am just curious are you getting any closer with your decision? Don't want to hurry you or sound rude, but would be great to know the outcome."

"Oh sure, no problem at all, there is just that Lopantegei guy left and we're done."
 
Jim Beam said:
"Hi Mr. Arnold, hope you are fine and am just curious are you getting any closer with your decision? Don't want to hurry you or sound rude, but would be great to know the outcome."

"Oh sure, no problem at all, there is just that Lopantegei guy left and we're done."
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STUNNED!!!
 
These journalists are just stating the most bland things to cover for the spurious nature of their reporting. Something that cannot fail to be true.

Ten Hag talked about a playing style in a job interview to be a football manager? Shocking! A truly informed journalist I'm sure.
 
I doubt ETH would be telling his feeling to English press, and especially right now. What would he gain doing that?

Clickbait bs is obvious right now.
 
“Stunned”

We’ve already been down the road of giving Ole the job after a good spell as interim manager which persuaded us to avoid undertaking the process that should so obviously have happened at the time, even if it meant Ole was appointed manager at the end. Let’s not make the same mistake any more than 13 or 14 times in a row. Otherwise we’re in danger of looking slightly foolish.
 
For the people who wonder if we are still the biggest club in England. These "articles" should be your confirmation.

Imagine writting dross like this for Chelsea, Pool, Leicester, City. Nobody would give a feck.

Yet since it's United, it on everyones mind. Rent free indeed.

Sir Alex did an amazing job I must. Even 9 years after his retirement, were are still the most popular team in England by far.
 
Caesar2290 said:
For the people who wonder if we are still the biggest club in England. These "articles" should be your confirmation.

Imagine writting dross like this for Chelsea, Pool, Leicester, City. Nobody would give a feck.

Yet since it's United, it on everyones mind. Rent free indeed.

Sir Alex did an amazing job I must. Even 9 years after his retirement, were are still the most popular team in England by far.
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I think the articles are a load of rubbish especially the ones coming from English sources. Ferdinand already debunked the rumour of becoming an assistant coach.

I know United is a huge club commercially but it's almost like the role of journalism has lost its dignity in the football niche.
 
What does "stunned" mean? A raised eye brow? A partial sniffle? A 2-second sigh?
the media are a laughable entity but it's us fans who feed it I guess.
 
pascell said:
Rangnick is key in changing direction and the thought process of the club.
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He's not as his role will not be as prominent as you think. It's really whether the departure of EW + arrival of Murtough and Fletcher make a real transition into how we are run as a football club.
 
pascell said:
Rangnick is key in changing direction and the thought process of the club.
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He's not done a go job so far of changing anything. Not allowed to buy anyone in January or let players go. Been shocking on the pitch, Ralph might get a chance behind the scenes. Had zero impact since he's arrived, the sad truth.
 
We're not even that good at the commercial aspects too. Commercial revenue growth have stalled in the last 4/5 years.
 
FootyGirl88 said:
Hes not wrong, maybe I'm naive but i think we're trying to change time will tell.

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Maybe but this is from the man who stunk the place out playing shite like Powell and Blackett in order to fulfill his philosophy. His time at United was comfortably the closest I came to packing up football completely. Utter snoozefests (on the pitch) week in week out, not too dissimilar to the current man in charge.
 
Trex said:
Van gaal hasn't let go, surprising.
Its been 8 years now and he still has a grudge.
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He's entitled to feel salty, him being the last to find out about his sacking was bad form from the club.

Also happens that he's right. One of the biggest complaints fans make is that running a successful football club seems to be secondary to making money and getting clicks.
 
Trex said:
Van gaal hasn't let go, surprising.
Its been 8 years now and he still has a grudge.
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I hope him and others keep making statements like these. The lunatics running the club need a reality check.
 
pascell said:
Rangnick is key in changing direction and the thought process of the club.
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Rangnick has effectively been thrown under the bus by the players and ignored by the board.

Watch us hire poch and spunk 100m on kane who will go on and take over the pogba role for the next couple of years.

We'll be here after 3 years back to square one with rashford, maguire and shaw running down their contracts and walking away for free.

All aboard the poch bandwagon..........!
 
Eckers99 said:
He's entitled to feel salty, him being the last to find out about his sacking was bad form from the club.

Also happens that he's right. One of the biggest complaints fans make is that running a successful football club seems to be secondary to making money and getting clicks.
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Many managers get sacked under different circumstances, the club clearly lives rent free in his head, he should move on.
I agree we have favored financial success over sporting success though.
 
FootyGirl88 said:
Hes not wrong, maybe I'm naive but i think we're trying to change time will tell.

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Easy to say now he's bagged millions from that commercial club.

If ETH gets the support LvG had he should be fine. If he's as good as they say.
 
LvG is clearly right and I don't understand posters going against him.

This club is NOT about football. Any coach will fail here.
 
Weird that LvG doesn't get even half the hate/flak Mourinho does here. LvG always badmouths the club bitterly at every opportunity while Jose has been classy about it and even praised the fans.
And that is after Jose won 3 trophies for the club and all these years later, basically each and every one of his assessments were spot on.
 
I mean based on his time here, Van Gaal is entirely correct. We were run with commercial interests in mind rather than football interests. We've been complaining about it on this forum for years. And telling a manager to instead go to a club with a proper focus on the football side of things would generally be good advice.

The only caveat is that our structure has changed since LVG was here. The CEO he was dealing with has been replaced and there are football people in positions that didn't exist when he was here.
 
United in sin said:
Let the fill process of interviewing candidates play out. This is the same emotional reaction that gave us Solskjaer for three seasons when the club should've waited before signing him after that PSG win
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Its not the same. The board can actually hire a manager that plays a brand of football that the club wants moving forwards. Instead they are interviewing candidates who have totally opposite approaches. This shows that they haven't done any homework since Rangnick was hired and are clueless just like Spurs were last summer.
 
All clubs are commercial clubs though, do people think the presidents of Real and Barca aren’t motivated mainly by making as much money as they can? The Super League was proof of this. The only exceptions are clubs where the owner is in it for a bit of fun (Chelsea) or sportswashing vehicles (City and PSG).
 
LVG is right. Forget the negativity over Poch. Even ETH, in the small chance he’s the next superstar manager, won’t be able to make miracles if the entire club structure is rotten and unwilling to change. In today’s day and age, managers don’t have the same control over players. Until we reach a stage where people like Ragnick are given more importance and then use them to work with ETH is the only chance we have for succeeding. And I say people like Ragnick i mean in a football structure way.

No one manager can perform miracles in the clown show we have become. Players need to be thrown under the bus and the club should be willing to back the manager rather than the “assets” they have. Which isn’t going to happen just because ETH solely arrives. He needs to come with an entire group and given a free hand to solve the rot.
 
VidaRed said:
Rangnick has effectively been thrown under the bus by the players and ignored by the board.

Watch us hire poch and spunk 100m on kane who will go on and take over the pogba role for the next couple of years.

We'll be here after 3 years back to square one with rashford, maguire and shaw running down their contracts and walking away for free.

All aboard the poch bandwagon..........!
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Alternatively, Ten Hag could just be another LVG. Gives a list of players to the club that includes a few Eredivisie players lower down, who the club sign because they're cheap, and we proceed to look crap. His ideas look stupid and ill thought out because he ends up with average players.

Hell, by the sounds of it even ETH will have Kane forced on him by our new recruitment team...
 
Interval said:
LVG is right. Forget the negativity over Poch. Even ETH, in the small chance he’s the next superstar manager, won’t be able to make miracles if the entire club structure is rotten and unwilling to change. In today’s day and age, managers don’t have the same control over players. Until we reach a stage where people like Ragnick are given more importance and then use them to work with ETH is the only chance we have for succeeding. And I say people like Ragnick i mean in a football structure way.

No one manager can perform miracles in the clown show we have become. Players need to be thrown under the bus and the club should be willing to back the manager rather than the “assets” they have. Which isn’t going to happen just because ETH solely arrives. He needs to come with an entire group and given a free hand to solve the rot.
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Damn, I remember saying this years ago under Jose. Actually brings into context how far we continue to slip. People didn't like Jose going public with his criticism, but I still maintain that the fans should have listened because Jose actually wanted and expected the same as them from our players. The club backed the players instead, to the delight of the supporters, and now look...
 
Tavern in the town said:
All clubs are commercial clubs though, do people think the presidents of Real and Barca aren’t motivated mainly by making as much money as they can? The Super League was proof of this. The only exceptions are clubs where the owner is in it for a bit of fun (Chelsea) or sportswashing vehicles (City and PSG).
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I think the key is balance. Those clubs are still under enormous pressure to succeed on the pitch. I don't get that vibe from this club. We are a club that can be in transition for 10 years and the people in charge keep their jobs. The only person at this club held to some kind of account is the manager, no one else seems to have any pressure. Ed wasnt even sacked, he resigned and most of the people synonymous with our failure are still here. That can't happen at those clubs no matter how much they love to make money. How many of these clubs keep rewarding underperforming players with contracts?
 
TenonTen said:
Weird that LvG doesn't get even half the hate/flak Mourinho does here. LvG always badmouths the club bitterly at every opportunity while Jose has been classy about it and even praised the fans.
And that is after Jose won 3 trophies for the club and all these years later, basically each and every one of his assessments were spot on.
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Are you joking ? Were you born after the heritage rant v Sevilla where he mocked and humiliated us and defended himself when he was actually the manager of the club ? Van Gaal also won a trophy with us.

And If you say Jose’s assessments are spot on, then so are Van gaal’s.
 
Tavern in the town said:
All clubs are commercial clubs though, do people think the presidents of Real and Barca aren’t motivated mainly by making as much money as they can? The Super League was proof of this. The only exceptions are clubs where the owner is in it for a bit of fun (Chelsea) or sportswashing vehicles (City and PSG).
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The purpose of Man United is to create profits for the Glazers. Clubs like Real, Barca, Bayern or (as far as I'm aware) Ajax have no owner in a similar sense, their purpose is to maximize sporting success. The same can be said for City and PSG, whose purpose is sports washing which has a huge overlap with sporting success.
Symbolic for that difference is the fact that e.g. Bayern and Ajax are run by former footballers, where United, for the longest time, was run by an investment banker. Which I assume is what van Gaal was referring to with his comment.
 
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Yeah the hope is we start transitioning into being a football club and not a commercial club again. But we'll see what happens I guess. Van Gaal definitely isn't wrong and it's something he realized in his time here.
 
I think Van Gaal will ultimately have a major influence over Ten Haags decision unfortunately.
 
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