Erik ten Hag | Currently unemployed

Also, for context, Ten Hag is not an Ajax guy. He never had any links to the club (or another top club, apart from managing Bayern Munich 2) until he became its coach a few years ago. (Which is part of the reason Ajax fans were quite apprehensive about and underwhelmed by his appointment at first.)

Right. He won them over with aplomb
 
It will work if they let TH bring his own players or the board buy the players to suit his way of playing. The flip side is they also need to move players on, not look at them as an asset on the bank balance. So for example if we can only get £30 mill for Maguire, then let him go and not look at him as an £80 mill asset.
 
I know ye, just seems to good to be true though, when have we ever done anything good or right? :lol:
Literally a few months ago when the board made the progressive decision to bring Rangnick into the club, something everyone was saying wouldn't happen.

We've definitely been a circus, but there's a possibility that post-Woodward United might have a semblance of competency.
 
Literally a few months ago when the board made the progressive decision to bring Rangnick into the club, something everyone was saying wouldn't happen.

We've definitely been a circus, but there's a possibility that post-Woodward United might have a semblance of competency.
Only time will tell mate. We still drag things on for weeks and weeks though. Other clubs have things done within days.
 
That's pure arrogance.
Its not though. The PL is objectively considered the best league in Europe - its the most competitive, with the most viewers, the best coaches and best players. Its definitely the ultimate testing ground for any ambitious coach.
 
Who else is left out there whom the club can interview besides Poch? Enrique obviously isn’t going to leave Spain with the World Cup around the corner :confused:
 
Only time will tell mate. We still drag things on for weeks and weeks though. Other clubs have things done within days.
I mean its a little difficult to wrap this up quickly considering all our managerial targets are currently in work and still have plenty to play for at their respective clubs this season. But I agree, I hope we're not wasting time interviewing poor candidates like Lopetegui or impossible ones like Enrique. Ideally we'd just interview our two frontrunners, and pick whichever one we feel is best (ETH obviously ;)).
 
Who else is left out there whom the club can interview besides Poch? Enrique obviously isn’t going to leave Spain with the World Cup around the corner :confused:
The Sevilla manager Lopetegui supposedly. Sounds like a massive waste of time, he's a considerable step down from the other 3, plays boring football, and has previously failed when making the step up to a big club. I'd rather stick with Rangnick for another season than opt for someone like him.
 
I mean its a little difficult to wrap this up quickly considering all our managerial targets are currently in work and still have plenty to play for at their respective clubs this season. But I agree, I hope we're not wasting time interviewing poor candidates like Lopetegui or impossible ones like Enrique. Ideally we'd just interview our two frontrunners, and pick whichever one we feel is best (ETH obviously ;)).
They want to somehow interview Pochettino and bring him in instead. That's the only reason I can think they are holding this off, the other two candidates are just a smoke screen.
 
Very interesting.

. Ten Hag himself is said to be ‘picky’ when it comes to planning his career, and the ‘conditions to perform’ are crucial for him.

AD then add: ‘And then it’s not just about the potential of the player group for the Ajax trainer. At the faltering United, the hierarchy in several parts of the club has been lost for years, while the success of Ten Hag at his first clubs also arose from the close connections with the leadership and control in the purchase policy.’
 
The Sevilla manager Lopetegui supposedly. Sounds like a massive waste of time, he's a considerable step down from the other 3, plays boring football, and has previously failed when making the step up to a big club. I'd rather stick with Rangnick for another season than opt for someone like him.

Exactly mate. Poch i can understand if United wants to hear his thoughts and vision. But if the other guy Lopetegui isn’t chosen as United’s interim manager, he’s surely isn’t going to be United’s new permanent manager
 
This might be true but lets not forget how easy it is to turn on someone. We have to make sure we give him the time, as long as he knows what he is trying to do and we see signs of improvement.

I wouldn't want to see him do what Ralf is doing, I know the circumstances are different but it happened to Jose and Ole as well where the burden of results became too big. Instead of playing their style, they went into results mode, what Ralf has done in the last few months.

I want to see ETH stick to his principles, yes some results might not go our way but its the only way we come out of this.

Yeah I agree. Thinking about it though, this might actually be the perfect time for this huge change in a sad way. We are now such a shambles that expectations are at an all time low, perfect time for fans to really get behind a long term change.

Saying that though, I might just have to bookmark this thread so I can go back and read that over and over again when I am raging after we have lost the first few games of the season :lol:
 
They want to somehow interview Pochettino and bring him in instead. That's the only reason I can think they are holding this off, the other two candidates are just a smoke screen.
Pochettino may not even want the job… he has plans to stay at psg next season. He said he wants to still win the CL with them. Wether he gets that opportunity or not is down to the psg owners. Obviously if he is sacked he’ll jump at the chance to manage us. That’s why we need to wrap up the ten Hag deal quickly.
 
Why??? Bayern do it. Ajax do it, Madrid do it. How is it the reason we have failed??
Signing former players isn't really the issue. It's signing competent ones.
RVP who I have heard some really nice things about by the way would be a good appointment to learn from ETH. Rio would be a terrible appointment though.
Carrick?
 
Who else is left out there whom the club can interview besides Poch? Enrique obviously isn’t going to leave Spain with the World Cup around the corner :confused:

This is probably true but I'd at least inquire to see whether he wanted to interview.

IMO, Luis Enrique is the best candidate in the abstract. Comparable tactical nous to ETH plus experience at a big club managing big players and winning everything.
 
This is probably true but I'd at least inquire to see whether he wanted to interview.

IMO, Luis Enrique is the best candidate in the abstract. Comparable tactical nous to ETH plus experience at a big club managing big players and winning everything.
Enrique is perfect and I’m starting to think a job share for a few months to get the right man long term isn’t a bad idea.
 
Pochettino may not even want the job… he has plans to stay at psg next season. He said he wants to still win the CL with them. Wether he gets that opportunity or not is down to the psg owners. Obviously if he is sacked he’ll jump at the chance to manage us. That’s why we need to wrap up the ten Hag deal quickly.
I think the compensation PSG would need to pay Pochettino and his staff was quoted to be 15/20M now they might not want to do that. I think they are hoping for United to come in and pay that amount and they can have him. However I hope that's not going to happen he stays at PSG and we get Ten Hag.
 
They want to somehow interview Pochettino and bring him in instead. That's the only reason I can think they are holding this off, the other two candidates are just a smoke screen.
I do feel like there's a little too much smoke here for Ten Hag not to get the job, especially after the stories that have come out this week, particularly how public his meeting was with United on Monday. Now it could be that Ten Hag turns us down, or the club are just making a public spectacle of it to briefly placate the fans, but I sincerely hope this process is just for show and we've already made up our mind about Ten Hag.
 
I want us to get back to playing attacking, free flowing football and a guy like ETH has that reputation and ability to teach....

but ffs....we just don't have the players to play a possession style of football as our CB's aren't great on the ball, our CM's struggle under pressure and our forwards(rashford in particular) can't keep hold of the damn thing

this team is completely set up for what Ole did and that is to absorb pressure and play on the counter b/c of pace.....again though with Ronaldo leading the line that has impacted that ideology as well
 
I do feel like there's a little too much smoke here for Ten Hag not to get the job, especially after the stories that have come out this week, particularly how public his meeting was with United on Monday. Now it could be that Ten Hag turns us down, or the club are just making a public spectacle of it to briefly placate the fans, but I sincerely hope this process is just for show and we've already made up our mind about Ten Hag.
I do hope we give Ten Hag the contract ASAP, I don't want this to drag out anymore than it already has. I don't want Pochettino as out manager he does not inspire me at all, I don't want to be fighting for top 4 every season. Ten Hag will be given time to actually build a title winning team.
 
That's pure arrogance.

And the truth.

Spurs attracting Conte - a club that does not win trophies
Everton attracting Carlo
Southampton attracting Hassnhutl

Might be arrogant but its the truth, the PL is a lure compared to the Dutch league. Any manager from the Dutch league would take the job for a top european club.
 
I think the compensation PSG would need to pay Pochettino and his staff was quoted to be 15/20M now they might not want to do that. I think they are hoping for United to come in and pay that amount and they can have him. However I hope that's not going to happen he stays at PSG and we get Ten Hag.
Less chance of us paying that then there is of them paying him off. Our board tend to go for the cheap options aswell. Theres us thinking our owners are listening to the fans and going for the most popular choice when it could just be that he’s the cheapest choice :lol: Either way though I don’t care aslong as we get ten Hag
 
Yeah I agree. Thinking about it though, this might actually be the perfect time for this huge change in a sad way. We are now such a shambles that expectations are at an all time low, perfect time for fans to really get behind a long term change.

Saying that though, I might just have to bookmark this thread so I can go back and read that over and over again when I am raging after we have lost the first few games of the season :lol:

I agree because we know we are out of every competition so there is not expectation or hope. When the season starts, the hope comes back in and a few bad results and the mood will be completely different.

Arteta is a good example of this, before the run he had, he was almost out the door, 90% of Arsenal fans wanted him gone, they stuck by him and they improving.

Do you actually think if ETH picks Maguire, McTominay and loses fans will be behind him?
 
Who else is left out there whom the club can interview besides Poch? Enrique obviously isn’t going to leave Spain with the World Cup around the corner :confused:

If he's the best candidate in the clubs' eyes and he's interested in/accepts an offer wouldn't he be worth the wait after a one month tournament in winter? He could possibly interview for the job before the world cup and RRs coaching term could be extended. Maybe an agreement could even be reached to bring in some staff members of his choice to get things moving on the ground this summer. I'm just saying
 
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Realistically, even if he is chosen, what’s the chances of us actually announcing him in the next couple of weeks?

We’ve barely anything to play for now (4th place trophy) but Ajax have a tight run in to win the title. Any announcement could destabilise the momentum that Ajax have going into the business end. Wouldn’t be surprised if this is kept under the radar until the end of the season.
 
Realistically, even if he is chosen, what’s the chances of us actually announcing him in the next couple of weeks?

We’ve barely anything to play for now (4th place trophy) but Ajax have a tight run in to win the title. Any announcement could destabilise the momentum that Ajax have going into the business end. Wouldn’t be surprised if this is kept under the radar until the end of the season.
I keep hearing this but I don't see how or why. Surely they'd want to give their manager the best possible send off, not to mention a lot of these players will be looking to attract a move to a big club, some might even hope to follow ETH to United. There's plenty of reasons for them to stay motivated.

And it's pretty much accepted he's leaving at the end of the season, regardless of whether its to United or not. So announcing he's joining us wouldn't exactly come as a bombshell.
 
It’s all Spin - will make him look good that Utd chased him and he only wanted Utd and turned others down…..usual UK tabloid hysteria
 
Maybe, Dortmund? I thought this was in the bag already.
I think ETH will only leave for a club bigger than Ajax so we can rule out a lot of clubs.. my thought was Dortmund too, although Rose has only been there a season, I think they will give him at least another one.

Juventus - Could be another shout as well.
RB Leipzig - Have done well since Tedesco has come in so i'd be surprised if it's them.
PSG - Don't strike me as the type of club ETH would go to though they may be actively looking to replace Pochettino.
Real Madrid - Maybe, even if they are looking to move beyond Ancelotti, but again i'd be surprised if ETH went there.

Beyond that I don't really see a club in the CL that would look to bring in a new manager
 
I think ETH will only leave for a club bigger than Ajax so we can rule out a lot of clubs.. my thought was Dortmund too, although Rose has only been there a season, I think they will give him at least another one.

Juventus - Could be another shout as well.
RB Leipzig - Have done well since Tedesco has come in so i'd be surprised if it's them.
PSG - Don't strike me as the type of club ETH would go to though they may be actively looking to replace Pochettino.
Real Madrid - Maybe, even if they are looking to move beyond Ancelotti, but again i'd be surprised if ETH went there.

Beyond that I don't really see a club in the CL that would look to bring in a new manager
If he goes to Real then I don’t think I’ll be as pissed. Upset yes, but not pissed. If he goes to any of the other three then it is emblematic of our status as a club. More I do find it interesting that a Dutch journalist puts out two clubs and decides not to say who they are and more pushes the idea that United need to make ‘a concrete offer as soon as possible’.
 
If this some how falls through, would anyone be surprised???.......we should wait until January and bring in Enrique.
 
Why would he go to Pool :confused:

And anyway, Poch would be fine too, I think he's being extremely underrated around here.
Klopp might be leaving in 2024, and it might be a repeat of a few years back when Pep and Klopp went to our rivals. I think Poch is fine, he's a good coach and a safe option.