This must have scared the crap out of Matic who decided it was time to move on.
Revolution FC is on its way folks.
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This must have scared the crap out of Matic who decided it was time to move on.
Revolution FC is on its way folks.
I don't think that any managers that are his age and have tasted management at the top are likely to just drift away. He will want another decent job and if he gets one and builds from there then I will be more than happy for him. Perhaps in the future he will be a good manager for another top team. That doesn't change my view that he was completely out of his depth at United and found out early.
Exactly. The vast majority of players will want to improve. They will want to be successful. The hard thing for managers is getting the buy-in and convincing them their methods will deliver that.
City also started slowly and they only accumulated 86 points during Ole season compared to 100 points during Mou season. Plus all of other teams got their problems (liverpool injuries, chelsea appointing a donkey as manager, etc). Mou best season points tally would only be 5 points deficit to City during Ole best season. Ole best point tally (74) would place 5th during Mou best season.
Me too, please.
That's not true, the corrolation is between position, styles and tactical choices more than quality and skill. Liverpool have continuously been in the top half of the PL in terms of sprints and distances covered since Klopp took over, here you have an example for 19/20. This season Liverpool were also 7th for the better part of the season and you can see that there is no direct link between quality/skill and workrate. In fact even if you look at individual players Bernardo Silva, Bruno Fernandes and Declan Rice are in the top 10 of distances covered this season.
Read an article a few years ago saying he favoured more relaxed/light training sessions.
I could totally see Donny saying that whilst thinking, "alright you feckers, now we'll see who is who."
I don't see the big deal. Players like Mane and Firminho have always put in plenty into football matches whether at Liverpool or before. It's just about picking players who suit your ethos which is not rocket science. Our current players have been signed by a Mish mash of disappointing mangers who were build for the modern game (like their managers I suppose!).
Not prime Mourinho. He changed things during his second stint at Chelsea.
Yes but after a few years of earning great money and having quite chill training you get used to it.
Can see donny laughing at mctominay and Fred thinking, we’ll see who starts games week in week out now haha. The players can’t moan now and say they haven’t had proper coaching once ten Hag comes in. I guarantee the first few weeks we’ll see loads of crap coming out saying… players aren’t happy with the intense training etc.
Still haven't made my mind up on Scott, but I don't think Fred is afraid of hard work. He seems to take pride in doing the dirty work. Not a world class CM, but I don't think anyone can slag him off for his work this season.
That's why Matic decided to leave. Who's next?
I suspect Donny will be laughing on the other side of his face after a few weeks if this is the case.
I'm not sure about that. We are talking about people that have been competitors for almost 20 years of their lives, if I was to bet I would say that 95% of them will welcome anything that can make them better and compete. Basically I expect at the most one weirdo in the group. I get that after a frustrating season people wants to think the worse but it's not realistic, people are essentially assuming that we have the strangest group of professional athletes in the world.
I can't see Donny laughing at anyone given that he's a bang average no mark that spends most of his time hiding from the ball and the rest of it playing one touch backwards or sideways to the nearest player. Fred works his bollocks off - not sure why he's knocked here for his workrate.
This wasn’t a dig at mctominay or Fred it was mainly a dig at all the managers we’ve had that consistently continue to play them 2 no matter how bad they are. Fred has been great this season to be fair but ten Hag likes to control possession and Fred won’t do that, his passes are sloppy most of the time.
We can’t continue to play a midfield with them 2 in week in week out though if we want to challenge for the league. Fred is a great presser and puts the work in… but we won’t control the midfield with someone who can’t pass a ball.
More imaginary conversations from the Mirror.
Matic going/gone. Hope the hag has at least a couple of midfielders lined up to sign
Sounds like it
Hopefully some of the deluded fans take note aswell who are blaming the manager despite players downtooling. No top manager wastes time in convincing downtooling players, they're shown the exit door asap.
Top managers are ruthless and don't waste time coddling toxic players. Man-management does not entail wasting time on toxic players, top managers are good at man-management because they know whom to man-manage and whom to feck off while some of our fans think every player including those who don't give a flying feck need to be coddled. Remind me again did fergie ever tolerate anyone who didn't put in a shift ? They were fecked off instantly, it was his way or the highway. Its the same with pep and klop aswell. Fergie man-managed those players who were talented and who put in a fecking shift but were still not clicking, he wouldn't have wasted time in coddling lingard, rashford and pogba who produce turd on the pitch and are off vacationing every other month.
McTominay and Fred are two of our fittest and hardest working players. Their issues are more down to on the ball than off it and the fact the rest of the team fails to press with them and the rest of the team fail to give them options. We can definitely upgrade them, don’t get me wrong. But the idea that Donny will be smirking because those two wont be able to run enough for ten Hag is way off. They’re both far more industrious than Donny.
They are their own “source”. That is why it’s called the “Mirror”. They speak into a mirror so they can technically claim someone told them whatever nonsense they’ve decided to publish.Exactly this
So did Michael Brown and Scott Brown but they weren’t very good. Fred is just another average player that was £20 mil too expensive.
I am sorry but why are you putting Fred and McT in one sentence, one is a superb player who could play for any team in the league and another one totally one-dimensional championship player who just works hard, yet is shy to show for the ball for 95 minutes and struggles to cover the ground properly, being average at best defensively.
Fred will absolutely play in the starting 11, like he's for us now being one of the most important players, McTominay will be slowly replaced by more technical players, depending on how quickly and efficient we are in the market and if any of the young lads step up.
Donny himself I think will get a chance as an 8 to skip McTominay in the pecking order I think, but he will have to take his head from his arse and start working hard, otherwise even such a nothing player like McTominay can roll over otherwise dutch poor man's Cleverly.
If you actually read my post you’ll find the answer to that.
Yep, it's not even a surprise that a people on a football forum believe absolutely every easily made up tweet of tabloid level.
Innit, he hasnt been confirmed yet, but they know about these inner conversations and the ins and outs of transfers.
Given how fast they come up with new stories I wouldn't be surprised to read about the first row he already had with our players.
Time for the sack watch?
What a joke. The only reason he got to those semis and that final was because he had all the luck in the world. "Just needed a bit of luck", good grief.
Yep, as if Donny has a fecking leg to stand on.
He alledgedly already made Rio Ferdinand binge-watch a week of video footage of Ramon Leeuwin (FC Utrecht centre back).
Staff at Carrington were seen binning boxes of McCain's home chips.
Aww, I see VdV got all chubby. I love chubby guys!
If the report is true, I hope ETH will analyze why Donnie has been such a non-factor in this, the most competitive league on the world. Hopefully he will adjust and not over train them like Bielsa.