Lads night out.
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Votes can now be changed
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
Lads night out.
I think his biggest sin is his recruitment. He signed players that aren't suitable to that style. The amount of money wasted does my head in. The best players from his reign were the like of Garna and Maino, players he had nothing to do with them. He leaned too much on familiarity.
In that short interview with the BBC journalist he said it wasn't his decision yet some took those words including red label rags and have ran with the headline story "Radcliffe doesn't back Ten Hag"
No manager should be kept or sacked based on one match/result as this Sunday as many here and elsewhere think. The decision should be already made and probably made public after the exec committee meet in London on Tuesday
It's laughable to think all of those will meet and performances won't be discussed. The biggest crisis at the club right now...of course it will get discussed. But you can just see us shithousing another win with some negative counter tactics and we'll hear tweets on Tuesday night about how he still has the backing.
I want to believe he's gone, Ratcliffes words today were grim for ETH, but this isn't our first, or even second, time at this rodeo. We all know how it goes. Patrice Evra was on SSN the other day saying he's not concerned about us because he knows when the manager is on the verge of getting sacked, we find a way to win. It just felt so small time from Patrice, even though he's just trying to be positive. I just feel this misguided positivity is why he's still here.
I want to believe he's gone, Ratcliffes words today were grim for ETH, but this isn't our first, or even second, time at this rodeo. We all know how it goes. Patrice Evra was on SSN the other day saying he's not concerned about us because he knows when the manager is on the verge of getting sacked, we find a way to win. It just felt so small time from Patrice, even though he's just trying to be positive. I just feel this misguided positivity is why he's still here.
What's the point in keeping him on, just end it
I mean, the very idea that all of those figures could come together and not discuss first-team performance after the start we have had, is quite ridiculous 
Another mood killer after Ratcliffe interview gave us a bit of renewed hope it could be over during International break
Let's call a spade a spade here he should be gone come Monday wether we win lose or draw this weekend.
If he isn't then it doesn't bode well for our immediate future under Ineos.
Managers simply cannot be given this much time, we need to learn to cut the cord much much quicker
If he isn't then it doesn't bode well for our immediate future under Ineos.
Managers simply cannot be given this much time, we need to learn to cut the cord much much quicker
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I think we are a way off him being sacked. I said before the Spurs game that it would be after Christmas.
I reckon the way the tide seems to be in the media and online may bring that forward but not this much.
I don't believe the idea that Ruud was brought in to be a caretaker, I think they are stressed about the cost of sacking him with PSR and I think their struggles with candidates over the summer will make them hesitant.
I hope I'm wrong but I think we are stuck with him a while yet. They won't look at the international break as a time to get rid and get their ducks in a row but rather to let the noise die down.
If we get absolutely shagged 5-0 by Villa it will change it but a 2-1 loss or a draw I reckon it drags on..
Hoping amongst hope that I'm wrong
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Probably largely and naïvely influenced by the unexplainable clamouring from our fans and the media to keep him.
Repeat that again and they are doing an abysmal job
Hopefully we can get a result at Villa park and things will look that bit rosier heading in to the international break. You have to worry given our form though, Villa will fancy their chances. Another defeat could make it very difficult for Erik to hang on in there.
Yeah my thoughts exactly, might give us time to be a more attractive project for Inzaghi, Amorim heck maybe even Nagelsmann after World Cup
Nothing will look rosy whilst he remains in charge, unless you have a memory of a goldfish
I think you misread. Rosier, not rosy.
Yeah I blame Stretford Paddock and Mitten's UWS poll for making INEOS feel guilty about sacking him
OK he's gone, good
Absolute nonsense!
This is why they shouldn't be looking at The Caf poll!
Obviously the fans have now changed their Ming the media not so much
It seems that we're often able to start well, with good team play and structure, and then about 20 minutes in we fall apart.. half hour later we're a complete shambles.
I noticed the EtH doesn't seem very active on the touchline anymore, maybe we're losing structure because he's not constantly going mental at all the players to keep them in the right structure... he seems meek and then we drift.
I noticed the EtH doesn't seem very active on the touchline anymore, maybe we're losing structure because he's not constantly going mental at all the players to keep them in the right structure... he seems meek and then we drift.
It is pretty close.
Ole
| Matches | W | D | L | Goals | Points | PPM |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 168 | 92 | 35 | 41 | 323:199 | 311 | 1.85 |
ETH
| Matches | W | D | L | Goals | Points | PPM |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 124 | 71 | 18 | 35 | 230:176 | 231 | 1.86 |
What a meeting of the minds that will be on Tuesday.
Sacking a manager shouldnt take a grand meeting of CEO, directors and co-owners. But it does for us because it's now a £20m+ decision, depending on how many coaches go along with ETH. Were it not for idiocy and a desperate PR move to trigger his extension, it could have been less than half of that.
Sacking a manager shouldnt take a grand meeting of CEO, directors and co-owners. But it does for us because it's now a £20m+ decision, depending on how many coaches go along with ETH. Were it not for idiocy and a desperate PR move to trigger his extension, it could have been less than half of that.
Yep only difference is the trophies.
And the goals scored. And the goals conceded. And goal difference. And the entertainment and enjoyment factor, being able to beat a top half team, being able to occasionally win away games. etc etc
In the context of our football club this is not a some of money worth crying about. Not convinced it breaks the top 50 most financially self-defeating things we've done in our era of pain.
To be fair to ten Hag we did well against top half teams at home in his first season in the league.
You don't get points for cup games so that's a nonsense comparison.
He's not Gareth Southgate? ( suggests with no conviction whatsoever.)
Some fair points, but this grinds my gears. Did he actually say ‘last season was a success because we won the FA cup’. Or is that how you heard it? Bear in mind I haven’t watched the interview yet!
Would last season have been better if we didn’t win the FA cup?
In many ways, this part of your post feels like gaslighting right back. Which is food for thought.
True we had the three convincing home games against Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs at the very start, when Casemiro was fresh off the plane and Rashford wasnt a zombie.
But post-league cup win, the only top half team we have beat convincingly in the league is Chelsea (4-1 and 2-1). Not counting miracle wins against Villa where they thrashed us but couldnt put the ball in the net.
No other United manager has been anywhere near Ten Hag disaster levels for big game/away game preparation and motivation.
What makes you think that? They've tolerated more than 18 months of terrible form.
I can’t be bothered reading the vitriol any more. Has anyone pointed out that Tuesday’s meeting is a regular monthly meeting?
It’s only remarkable when twitter idiots take it out of context and everyone laps it up.
“It is not know if performance is on the agenda” - it’s an executive meeting FFS, it will be on the agenda, EVERY month.
It’s only remarkable when twitter idiots take it out of context and everyone laps it up.
“It is not know if performance is on the agenda” - it’s an executive meeting FFS, it will be on the agenda, EVERY month.
We also beat City 2-1 at home in January.
Not really. Ten hag has two major trophies to his name and that's better than none.
You don't get cups for better goals conceded and goals scored I'm afraid.
The number of games is right, the goals are completely wrong though.
Edit: If you're taking it from the summary page of the Manager on TM it's because they count the penalities scored in cup competition shootouts.
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