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This is an insane though while at the same time being exactly what I expect from this lot at this point...

Just gonna keep doing the same thing while hoping for different results to turn out to be that 1% instance of a manager actually turning the tide around this late

Unfortunately for us, absolutely nothing shown to us over the previous 18 months suggests that we have a manager capable of doing that
 
The holy trinity 68 said:
Maybe they are giving him the benefit of the doubt as the first 7 games had some tough fixtures and they are waiting to see if he can turn it around. I don't agree with it btw, but maybe that is their reasoning?
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Unsure I follow — the only genuinely “tough” fixture we’ve had all season is Liverpool at home. Villa at a push
 
TheReligion said:
To suggest it wouldn’t be a surprise is odd.
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In general I don’t expect United to be relegated no. But I also don’t expect that the recruitment is going to stay as bad as it has been. But If it does, I don’t think anyone should be surprised. A team full of Antony’s and Mount’s is fecked
 
LawCharltonBest said:
In general I don’t expect United to be relegated no. But I also don’t expect that the recruitment is going to stay as bad as it has been. But If it does, I don’t think anyone should be surprised. A team full of Antony’s and Mount’s is fecked
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I think whatever the context, if a club the size of United was relegated, it would be a huge surprise.
 
Valencia Shin Crosses said:
It’s insane really. Punting on yet another season costing us even more money just for the simple fact of making a point to “give him time” even though i don’t want our management just giving every fecking manager “time” for the sake of it.
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Keeping him on for this season was ridiculous, continuing with him at this point is just ambitionless
 
sullydnl said:
This is a ludicrous thing to say, and if you genuinely think that then your brain has been rotted by too much internet negativity. Us being relegated within the next 5 years isn't even a remote possibility.
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Why is it not even a remote possibility?
 
I’m sure the United players are trembling with excitement at the prospect of seeing our bald and charismatic overlord again this week after his cheeky wee holiday.
 
We’re obviously waiting for Gareth Southgate to come back from his self imposed break before firing baldy.. and that is fecking terrifying.
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Why is it not even a remote possibility?
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We're currently 250/1 to be relegated this season. Try figuring out why that is, then project ahead.

It's insane that you're even asking this question, and suggests you've lost all perspective on where United stand relative to the rest of the league.

There's a reason that even last season, absolutely abysmal though we were, we still finished 34 points ahead of the relegation places, with over twice as many points as the best of the relegation teams. We are not a relegation calibre side, nor even remotely close to being one, even when underperforming as we are.

And if recruitment "stays as it is" we will continue to be nowhere near a relegation side, because outcomes like the Antony signing aren't even the average level of our recruitment. "A team full of Antony's" would require our recruitment to nosedive further, such that within 5 years our team is populated with players at the level of our worst signings.
 
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pocco said:
I genuinely think Ten Hag is the man running the club. What on earth have we put into his contract?
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I think Ed Woodward is still running the club. There is no obvious difference at the moment
 
pocco said:
Apart from the fact he seems absolutely untouchable and he's confident of this even when producing horrendous results, the moves being made feel like he has some input. Transfers, hiring of coaches, banning the likes of Fergie from the dressing room etc.
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Yeah it’s in your head.

The stuff with Sir Alex is being sensationalised as always. It’s nothing to do with Ten Hag.

Also worth noting Sir Alex is remaining a non executive director and will be a constant presence at games.
 
Best available option gone. We're stuck for the season at least now. They won't be buying someone else out of another club.

Going to be a long season again.
 
Rolaholic said:


This is an insane though while at the same time being exactly what I expect from this lot at this point...

Just gonna keep doing the same thing while hoping for different results to turn out to be that 1% instance of a manager actually turning the tide around this late

Unfortunately for us, absolutely nothing shown to us over the previous 18 months suggests that we have a manager capable of doing that
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It’s just people over reacting to him not being sacked now and jumping to conclusions he won’t be sacked at all this season. The club can’t afford to write off the season just for the sake of sticking with a manager they tried to get rid of in the summer.

They are clearly giving him a chance to turn it round but I’ve no doubt he is on the verge of being sacked, he won’t be allowed to waste the whole season.
 
Woodzy said:
We shouldn’t let people come and go regardless of who they are. We need rules in place for who and when people can go into the dressing room and it sounds like that is exactly what’s happening,
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it has always been tradition for the board members to visit the changing room
 
Can't believe he survives the international break. Madness. Nobody wants that guy here anymore apart from oppo fans and - seemingly - our board.
 
TheReligion said:
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Then you can be surprised again

A club making bad decision after bad decision is not immune. If you think they are then that’s up to you. I don’t see how signing dud after dud and hiring dud after dud is sustainable. And the purse strings are being tightened
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Then you can be surprised again

A club making bad decision after bad decision is not immune. If you think they are then that’s up to you. I don’t see how signing dud after dud and hiring dud after dud is sustainable. And the purse strings are being tightened
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I don’t think they are immune from anything.

I just pointed out that it would be a surprise if the club got relegated and it would shock world football.

I’m surprised that you don’t think it would be a surprise if I’m honest. Very much so.
 
Unless we are in serious danger of relegation, ETH ain’t going anywhere imo.
 
TheReligion said:
Yeah it’s in your head.

The stuff with Sir Alex is being sensationalised as always. It’s nothing to do with Ten Hag.

Also worth noting Sir Alex is remaining a non executive director and will be a constant presence at games.
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I'm not talking about SAFs position being taken away but him being allowed in the dressing room. If he was a great influence that Ten Hag appreciated, do you think this would be happening?

Everything else points to him still having a huge say in everything. Why do you believe otherwise? Because the papers told you? Before INEOS it was known how much influence he had, so there's no proof without tabloid pieces, that he had had his influence reduced. The fact he's on the same contractual terms probably lends credibility to that.
 
TheReligion said:
I don’t think they are immune from anything.

I just pointed out that it would be a surprise if the club got relegated and it would shock world football.

I’m surprised that you don’t think it would be a surprise if I’m honest. Very much so.
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As I’ve said, I also don’t expect the recruitment to stay so bad

And I don’t expect to have a manager as shit as Ten Hag at any point from January 2025 onwards

But if it does and we do, then it won’t be a surprise and it shouldn’t be one

Same way I wasn’t surprised when the shit laughing stock Manchester club in blue started winning leagues when they got all the best players and manager. United are doing the exact opposite of that.
 
pocco said:
I'm not talking about SAFs position being taken away but him being allowed in the dressing room. If he was a great influence that Ten Hag appreciated, do you think this would be happening?

Everything else points to him still having a huge say in everything. Why do you believe otherwise? Because the papers told you? Before INEOS it was known how much influence he had, so there's no proof without tabloid pieces, that he had had his influence reduced. The fact he's on the same contractual terms probably lends credibility to that.
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You seem to have become some kind of conspiracy merchant.

Truth is I don’t really care that much and don’t think it’s as bigger deal as being made out. As always though, certain folk will lap it up given the current issues at the club.
 
Also amorim who was one of the few other credible targets is probably also now out of the picture
 
LawCharltonBest said:
As I’ve said, I also don’t expect the recruitment to stay so bad

And I don’t expect to have a manager as shit as Ten Hag at any point from January 2025 onwards

But if it does and we do, then it won’t be a surprise and it shouldn’t be one

Same way I wasn’t surprised when the shit laughing stock Manchester club in blue started winning leagues when they got all the best players and manager. United are doing the exact opposite of that.
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Whatever circumstances if United get relegated it will be a huge surprise to everyone in world football. Anyway.
 
The main reason I want him gone is that the players seem mentally fried. Totally at a loss playing for him. Maybe that says a lot but the players but you cannot fire them all, you can fire ETH. They need belief and new energy and now it is not coming. Hopefully the youth can continue to develop in the middle of this tripe we are wrapped up in.
 
DWelbz19 said:
Unsure I follow — the only genuinely “tough” fixture we’ve had all season is Liverpool at home. Villa at a push
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Liverpool. Brighton away, which is obviously tough, Spurs and Villa are also pushing for top 4, so yeah obviously they are tough fixtures.

Are you saying only Liverpool, City and Arsenal are the only tough fixtures in the PL?

In that case, United should have won the league every year.
 
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I'm not overly fussed that we've not got Tuchel, I think the England job suits him better.

It shouldn't make much of a difference to Ten Hag's fate. If he continues to dig his own grave, sooner or later, he will be put in it. It's a shame this looks like another total trudge of a season though.
 
It's annoying now that we have to throw away the season for this delusional idiot. Shame we couldn't get an easily available manager in Tuchal. Hopefully we can get top 8 and then hire Alonso or a better manager. I've zero faith in ETH now.

Last season I chalked it up to the insane amount of injuries. He can't even win with a full enough squad against FC Fecking Twente at home! I'll be surprised if he makes it past December.
 
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