Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked

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The league will always be the most important indication of where we are as a team and the thing to judge a manager on. We have been abysmal there.
 
Exactly, we were competitive against the likes of Porto and Aston Villa. This is extremely impressive and further cements his position as a successful manager of Manchester United.

I am astonished that many people act here as if we were a Bayern, Real, Manchester City or Chelsea-sized club. Completely unrealistic, backwards and unreasonable, clinging to past.

We are in new era, now we are roughly where Wigan were under Martinez, even better. Maybe there is some outside threat of relegation but generally we are comfortable. And we are winning domestic cups.

Leicester under Brendan Rogers is where we should aspire to be. And I firmly believe that Eric Ten Hag will bring us there if properly backed by signing a world-class LB, 2 CMs, a winger and a striker for a reasonable total outlay of 1-1.5bn. All the signs are there and it is a process. We just need to avoid knee-jerk decisions and take a long-term approach. He deserves another 2-3 years at least to implement his vision.

In a thread full of woeful WUM attempts this is actually the worst.

Bravo.
 
He will be gone next week. This form is beyond pathetic. Just hate watching us under him.
 
I think our start to this season has shown that injuries weren't the main reason for just how awful we were last season to be fair.

We could still mathematically win the league but it's not bloody likely. We've been in relelgation form for 20 games now, there's more chance of us getting relelgated this season than coming 4th if we let this continue.



He's been under pressure for months and nothing has changed we've actually got worse. Fair enough if you think things could get better but it seems like it's based more upon hope than anything tangiable.
Again I dont disagree with your points. We just have to wait and see how the next few games go (unless he gets sacked tomorrow :)). I am always a patient and optimistic person and maybe thats why I havent lost faith in Ten Hag yet.
 
You're all fools. Ten Hag managed to win two cups with a team that are 14th in the league. The man is incredible!

If you look at the table in ascending order, we're actually 7th. Only 7 points off the top, too.

Trust the process, heh?
 
How is it nuts? Surely RvN as an interim couldn't be any worse in the meantime? I doubt having no manager at all would even be worse.
Are you really asking how sacking somebody with no idea who is replacing them is nuts?
 


We’re fecked!

We already knew that. The financial repercussions.

But it's now a matter of having the balls to admit they made a mistake after The FA Cup final. They obviously tried to replace him, but weren't in full control at that point. Now that they have their key staff in positions, it's time for them to earn their money. They should have had contingency plans in place, as this situation was always going to happen. Even if it's a case of Ruud as interim for a few weeks.
 
When Jonny Evans, age 36, is your best player it could be argued that the players are the problem. However, I hold the view that the manager has failed to develop the players he has into performing anything remotely close to cohesive tactics.

Yes of course there has to be answer as to who will succeed ETH, either on an interim or permanency basis, but it is as clear as can be that he is not that man to lead the club into competing for a top four spot, let alone a proper PL title challenge.
 
Why? I mean if INEOS were actually doing well with their other football investments than fair enough. They aren't though.
I am not sure if Ashworth, Berada and Wilcox are also managing the other INEOS clubs and even if they are they have just started with United. So its too early to assume utd wont be successful under INEOS simply because the other clubs havent been. If anything INEOS start at Utd is very promising. Also man city football group owns many other clubs that are not successful.
 
Are you really asking how sacking somebody with no idea who is replacing them is nuts?

They had enough time to work a replacement out.
Plus, even an interim solution could give us a bit of a bounce if INEOS really weren't able to find a replacement yet.
 
Pretty sure de Ligt was a club signing, with ten Hag obviously very happy to sign him presented with the opportunity.
The only person who has ever said that is Ten Hag when he was attempting to deflect from us signing his mates.
 
I am not sure if Ashworth, Berada and Wilcox are also managing the other INEOS clubs and even if they are they have just started with United. So its too early to assume utd wont be successful under INEOS simply because the other clubs havent been. If anything INEOS start at Utd is very promising. Also man city football group owns many other clubs that are not successful.

Promising start indeed
 
Any early optimism over INEOS is going out the window if Ten Hag is still here by Wednesday.

Ashworth isn't an idiot, he can surely see what the rest of the world can see. This manager is finished, we're well beyond the point of no return.
 
We already knew that. The financial repercussions.

But it's now a matter of having the balls to admit they made a mistake after The FA Cup final. They obviously tried to replace him, but weren't in full control at that point. Now that they have their key staff in positions, it's time for them to earn their money. They should have had contingency plans in place, as this situation was always going to happen. Even if it's a case of Ruud as interim for a few weeks.

I’ve never understood the financial argument for not sacking him. Surely it’s far more damaging financially to keep him on and potentially finish mid table and fail to secure European football altogether and the money that it brings in?
 
Of course they don't want to it will cost them millions.
Yet they didn't mind spending €50 million on Ugarte. ten Hag doesn't even use him.

That money could have been used to sack ten Hag and bring in a new manager. With money to spare.
 
I am not sure if Ashworth, Berada and Wilcox are also managing the other INEOS clubs and even if they are they have just started with United. So its too early to assume utd wont be successful under INEOS simply because the other clubs havent been. If anything INEOS start at Utd is very promising. Also man city football group owns many other clubs that are not successful.
There is nothing "very promising" about their start.

We've signed more shit players that the manager wanted, and they're dithering over the decision to sack our worst manager in the modern era.
 
They had enough time to work a replacement out.
Plus, even an interim solution could give us a bit of a bounce if INEOS really weren't able to find a replacement yet.

It's been clear for some time that ETH may need replacing, so any company worth their salt should have been doing their homework during this time and looking at potential alternatives. I find the idea that we're going to sack ETH and then start the research and information-gathering at that point really, really daft. They have probably already had private conversations over who the potential replacements could be.
 
You’ve got to be trolling
Obviously I am not trolling. I value my time too much to spend it on a football forum just to troll others. I am simply defending the manager of the club that I dearly support.
 
Erm… that’s a little tragic to be fair. Live your own life and feck what others are doing/thinking.
Thee three musketeers, VP89, BenitoSTARR and yourself, are very quiet compared to last season.

I don't give a feck, thanks.

What's tragic is people who continue to defend this manager. Luckily for you, INEOS don't seem to have the stones required. Could be a good week for you.
 
How long is way too long in your opinion? When should they have sacked him?

In the summer after evaluating his football last season. Currently we are sitting at 14th place in the PL playing horrific football. Things shouldn't have come that far
 
Obviously I am not trolling. I value my time too much to spend it on a football forum just to troll others. I am simply defending the manager of the club that I dearly support.
Um. If you dearly support the club, why are you so happy to support some Dutch bloke who is taking our team down the shitter? Ten Hag means nothing to United, he'll leave and never be remembered fondly. Exercise some critical thinking instead of blind support
 
It’s obvious that INEOS want to be seen as being rational and different to the Glazers. They’re more interested in being seen to be calm and measured rather than doing what is actually required.

Big, big issue at this club. Extends to fans too. Everyone seems to be more concerned with "optics" than doing what's required. I have held a theory that "back the manager" and "the united way" and the way sections of the United fanbase irrationally hold on to those notions are largely exercises on "not wanting to be like them other clubs." Nonsensical dogmas. Other clubs chop and change managers til they find one that works - at United sacking a manager has to be a ponderous process regardless of how awful or bad we're doing. We're 14th on the table, and there's people in this thread talking about "I want him sacked but only for the right manager" - what the feck does that even mean? Almost as bad as "we need to see him under a proper footballing structure" - when we're getting ran ragged by any team with a pulse and finishing 8th.

And this guy still gets applauded off the pitch at OT regardless of what shite he dishes out. Club just doesn't have that dawg in them.
 
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