Why sell Alverez a youth LB as well, when our two recognised LBs were both long term injured? Why talk up Amass another youth LB, then not even give him a try, yet give a young CM, Collyer, an half at it? TH is so deluded, you can actually believe, he believes his own tripe he spouts at the end of games.
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked
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After tomorrow’s game we will list likely be 11 points off Liverpool having played 7 games. 7 games in which Liverpool were the only real top side. We have been a disaster in every measurable way this season and he is only a LB from a full squad. He’s incompetence is beyond a joke right now.
As a fan base we’ve never protested against a manager, but if he is still in place for Brentford then we need to address this. Clapping and cheering this failure is only compounding the misery of fans and deterioration of our once great club.
As a fan base we’ve never protested against a manager, but if he is still in place for Brentford then we need to address this. Clapping and cheering this failure is only compounding the misery of fans and deterioration of our once great club.
I don’t think there is a vocal Ten Hag FC anymore, on here anyway.
There is only one poster left who is only half heartedly in favour of him.
It is nearly a comprehensive ‘sack’ from Red Cafe.
There is still a few floating about on X and Reddit.
There is only one poster left who is only half heartedly in favour of him.
It is nearly a comprehensive ‘sack’ from Red Cafe.
There is still a few floating about on X and Reddit.
We're 11 points off the top albeit a game played less but absolutely criminal. Sack him tomorrow regardless of the result
So after 6 PL games.. we’re:
11 points behind Liverpool with -14 worse goal difference
Wow
11 points behind Liverpool with -14 worse goal difference
Wow
And to be fair, while the league cup win was great at the time, Fergie barely considered it a trophy. To be harping On about it 2 seasons later is rather embarrassing
Depressing.
Liverpool objectively have a far better squad than us that’s largely been settled for years under Klopp, with 3-4 world class players and no real weaknesses in any position.
I’m as much for “ten Hag has done an awful job” as anyone but it’s a pointless comparison.
Ancelotti already stated he's gonna retire from coaching and Florentino Perez already offered him an another position at the club to keep him there.
Not really a fair statistic is it considering we have a game in hand on Liverpool?
It’s likely to be 11 points and -17 goal difference
Disgraceful and embarrassing.
Correct.
ETH undoubtedly has to go but comparing him to Slot right now is dumb. ETH in his first season finished 3rd and won a cup, let’s see where Liverpool are come the end of the season. The way the wheels have fallen off under ETH since that first season should tell you it’s far too early for people to be declaring Slot as the next Klopp. Thats not aimed at you just a general observation, sick of people piping that cnut off before they’ve even started playing serious teams.
He has been impressive against weak opposition, I will say that much. But it’s far too early and he might be another dud soon enough. If I had to guess, I’d say he will never be another Klopp. More likely to be sacked this season or the next one imo.
Liverpool don't have 3-4 world class players. Only two, van Dijk and Salah but they are getting old. But to be fair the "average quality" of their squad is a lot higher if you know what i mean. Having said that, for this you can easily blame ten Hag, who brought lots of awful players to the club just because they are dutch, or saw them playing in Holland or they were former Ajax players like that totally clueless Antony. However the comparison is still pointless as Slot spent only a few months in Liverpool.
Aye they’ve put away the teams put in front of them I’ll give them that, even if they aren’t the strongest opposition. That said Slot’s also inherited a far more potent attack and has a genuine world class forward in Salah. I also think he’ll be exposed before long, let’s see how they fare against the likes of City, Arsenal etc this season.
Alisson is obviously world class as well.
Allison is clearly world class and I don’t think the likes of Diaz and (controversial, but when used correctly) TAA are far off either.
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That’s a hard video to watch. Big Sam comes across as an old man searching for words and his points are basic.
Rene as per usual comes across tactically very well but up his own arse “I did this”, “I told David Gill this” etc
Every single candidate is ‘potentially’ worse because we can’t see in to the future. But they are also potentially better. The only thing we know for sure is that Ten Hag is not good enough and it should not be beyond Ineos to find someone that has a good chance of getting us playing better.
Do you wanna ignore the second goal or the fact that we cut through them with a good move that resulted in an offside goal? Or how about Onana's silly mistake that let them back in it? We won that game because we attacked really well in the first half and defended well in the second half. Not a single pundit said we were 'lucky' to win that day. City deserved nothing from that game.
You can want EtH out all you want, and I think he cannot complain about getting sacked because it's been terrible, but we don't have to revise stuff and say he was purely lucky to beat CIty in the cup final. It was a good performance and every United fan should have been proud of that.
I don't know how he's still here. Lvg won a FA cup and played imo some better football than Eth. They sacked him to bring Jose in . Maybe there isn't a guy who wants the job have people thought of that?. I'd take a guy who go nothing to lose as a Manager a guy who goes there won feck all no reputation to be dragged through the mud.. feck it I'd rather that than thus guy now all for giving him a fair crack , that's totally gone with me now sooner he goes the better, because I can't see how he can turn it around , where can he do it, how can he fix it Were Were Were does he think it can be fixed..
Agreed. We were the better team in the final and deserved the win. The Liverpool match in the Quarters was also quite good. People tend to go on about the period during the game that they were utterly dominant, but that was only for 40 of the 120 minutes the match went for (from about the 35th minute to the 75th). For the other 80 minutes we were the better team, albeit by nowhere near as much as they were in their dominant period. Overall it could easily have gone either way and the losing team couldn't really complain about it.
On the flip side, the Coventry match in between them was one of the most embarrassing matches, with ETH being completely outmanaged in terms of in-game decisions by someone who had never managed above the Championship level. We dominated the first half when they sat back and were scared of us, then they changed their tactics at halftime and were the better team for most of the second half and extra time.
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Exactly. The FA Cup final win was not fecking lucky. We actually managed to dominate City. It was a great performance, especially in the first half.
ETH tweaked the set up, with the players input , and we played to our strengths against City in , comfortably, our best overall performance of that season.
ETH seems to have learnt little from that game though.
Annoyingly.
ETH seems to have learnt little from that game though.
Annoyingly.
Exactly. Why can’t he just play like that in every match? He’s shown that he can adapt when he wants to. It’s infuriating.
I'm not sure I am mate we're discussing replacing Ten Hag that isn't nearly as difficult as replacing Alex Ferguson. No one is saying just get anybody in but going out and getting the best available circa October 2024 is probably going to be an improvement on what we currently have which let's be honest is awful. Ten Hag is a good manager but he's obviously a bad fit for the Premier League and Manchester United. Some managers have teams punching above the talent available to them. Ten Hag over the last 18 months has us punching below our weight, virtually in relelgation form. We can't allow that to continue just because there isn't an ideal/good candidate available currently. You never know how someone will perform until they're actually in the job so I'm not sure there's even such a thing as an ideal candidate. Pretty much every managerial appointment is a roll of the dice.
This. We need to get this appointment right. It’s a crucial decision.
Still, better than the time that Diddy was on it.
the crazy thing about the Coventry game was how we went from complete control to just collapsing and not really full recovering. looked out of ideas and hanging on in extra time.
Because he's a stubborn and egotistical boob. His job and a trophy was on the line though so his had to give in-in some way.
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Yep large sections of the United fanbase can't think about managers outside of the context of appointing the next Fergie.
You would think they would've learnt by now.
Having Rene Meulensteen and fecking Sam Allardyce pull apart your tactics must be the ultimate ignominy.
It might be something a lot of United fans won't be able to ever get over.
Up until a few years ago I pretty much thought like that as well.
I’d say both are pointless.
A massive fraud of a manager. Conned all gullible folks including the new management into thinking injuries were the reason we were dreadful last year when the evidence was clear in how we were setup tactically.
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