Said it already there's no value getting into a debate about it. Preferring a manager who took one season to beat Oles best point tally in 3 attempts whilst hitting 2 Cup finals and one Cup is not contraversial for me. Cry about it somewhere else.
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked
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49% win percentage over the last 83 games.
Thread should be retitled to how pissed will you be when we don’t sack him until top 4 is mathematically out of reach.
"Cry about it"
Is someone getting a little rattled that their stance on a manager who clearly wasn't good enough months ago has become indefensible?
Mate, I said there's no point getting into a debate about it and you're trying to egg one on with shocked posts. As I said, cry about it somewhere else. It's evidently you that's rattled.
Ive said what I had to say about the manager now, dig up my posts if you're that obsessed.
I'm not angry, YOU'RE ANGRY!
You certainly didn't say you didn't want to debate it to me before throwing your toys out of the pram with childish comments about crying and now calling people "obsessed".
I'd suggest if this thread gets you into such a stress you should just take a break from it.
Its quite clear Allardyce isn't a good coach based on this, but you'll have pundits spouting about players needing passion. Rene's insight was really good
Throwing toys out of the pram
My posts that explained it said I didn't want to debate it. You were the one that was shocked by it. As I said, if you want to cry, do it somewhere else. I've got not got time for posters that are overly sensitive about Oles shit e reign with us.
Sorry, I’d rather get top 4 and go trophyless than win the FA Cup and get relegated. The financial reasons alone that allow us to improve the squad makes it preferable.
Agree with your second point that both Ten Hag and Ole weren’t good enough, but Ole was much better than Ten Hag. The football was more attractive ( which is saying something because it wasn’t that great to watch), the results and league positions were better, we were more consistent in our performances. When the difference between a trophyless Ole and two minor trophies with Ten Hag is 12 penalties in a Europa final… well, we’ve reached a bad place.
Throwing toys out of the pram
My posts that explained it said I didn't want to debate it. You were the one that was shocked by it. As I said, if you want to cry, do it somewhere else. I've got not got time for posters that are overly sensitive about Oles shit e reign with us.
When you say something on an internet forum people might respond, some may agree, some may not.
Overly sensitive, obsessed and crying. Blimey, hope I'll be alright for work on Monday.
And as a Manchester United supporter I value competing at the top over middle table and a league cup.
And I agree Ten Hag was no way near good enough in that season. But Ole had 3.5 years to hit the mark and looked on course for the same position as Ten Hag last season had he stayed. With no cups on top. Anyway - its just opinions
I like to win games and not lose every other week too. I don't overly like losing.
I hope so too matey
To be fair he didn't actually have 3 and a half years. He took over in December 2018 and left in November 2021.
Scrolling past that I thought it said Coleen Rooney at the end there
Seems it.
Furthering my point about the difference between pre and post League Cup Final, see below.
| Games | W | D | L | W% | D% | L% | GF | GA | GD |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Games After League Cup Final | 83 | 41 | 13 | 29 | 49.40% | 15.66% | 34.94% | 133 | 122 | +11 |
Games Before (Including LCF) | 41 | 30 | 5 | 6 | 73.17% | 12.20% | 14.63% | 80 | 39 | +41 |
Not meaningful silverware, evidently. Or you wouldnt have spent the last 12 months peddling excuses for the Hag.
You have to realise you're replying to a poster who can never be wrong.
Pace
Power
Penetration
Unpredictability
Every training session should instill that in the side.
Wow, we have fallen so far.
And funnily enough, it seems increasingly likely that that cup win will be remembered as the one thing that did further damage to our longer term league and European aspirations, given that it kept that fraud in a job long enough to sabotage another season.
Throwing toys out of the pram
My posts that explained it said I didn't want to debate it. You were the one that was shocked by it. As I said, if you want to cry, do it somewhere else. I've got not got time for posters that are overly sensitive about Oles shit e reign with us.
Says the guy that’s overly sensitive about Ten Hag’s historically shit reign with us.
Yeah, very much like Erik's answers in that interview where he just said stick to the plan or belief or whatever he said.
Then why post it? You can't just post something like that and not expect replies unless you're a WUM like quite a few people think.
He's not worth it bud. He's obviously a wum.
No he said "judge us at the end of the season, we have had two seasons where we have reached finals".
As if to imply that the last two seaosns were sucessful because of reaching two finals. So get to another and this will also be a success.
Totally negating the 8th place finish and the zero goal difference.
Maybe watch the interviews, then pass comment. Rather than saying "Bear in mind I haven’t watched the interview yet!"
Good video, thanks for sharing.
It is rather preplexing how EtH is unable to instill some of the basics into our squad. In recent weeks we have heard from Benny and Steve McClaren about how he is such a tactically brilliant coach yet we seem to be missing the basics. Where has it gone wrong?
I can't understand how he wants to play or setup? He keeps asking for time but does anyone actually know what peak EtH football looks like? If we saw some glimpses, I’m sure fans would be more sympathetic to his cause.
His football has been crap and you can't defend it and he'll most likely be sacked soon but people saying the FA cup final was lucky just isn't true. Our XG was better on the day, we defended well and, but for a mistake by Onana, it would have been a 2-0 win.
Really basic question, does ETH ever change formation to be more defensive? Or to go from a defensive formation to more attacking?
Or is he changing formations and the players just can't perform.....
Or is he changing formations and the players just can't perform.....
It's one game. With a bunch of very talented footballers to boot. Raphaël Varane a prime example of that talent at the back. Let's not pretend he pulled off that result with a bunch of minnows.
A similar side lined up against Liverpool at Anflield under ETH and got pummeled 7-0.
I will cry too once he's gone to be fair.. Happy tearsActually feel really sad he’s likely going.
I’m a big softy though and nearly cried just now because my cat got into a fight with another cat….
We can get Carlo then if Real get Xabi.
That's a bit harsh after he got the equaliser the other day!
You tell us!
No, but to say we were lucky in the FA cup final win as some suggested is just untrue. We were the better team. It changes nothing regarding his situation now but let's not say it was a lucky win when it wasn't.
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