There's not a single poster on here that wouldn't have bitten your hand off for a top 4 finish and a trophy at the start of the season. We might even make it a cup double!
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There's not a single poster on here that wouldn't have bitten your hand off for a top 4 finish and a trophy at the start of the season. We might even make it a cup double!
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And how many people are actually saying anything different to that?
You can be happy with something, while also discussing some details you weren't happy in the mean time, it doesn't mean you are not happy with the manager or think he is shite and deserves to be sacked.
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Nobody is defending that exact choice, just trusting the manager, who has more data than us.
Nobody actually thinks that all things being OK that Wout should be near the side. Including the manager I reckon.
But we have to engafe with reality occasionally.
I love ETH but the Wout criticism is valid. He's definitely one of the worst players I have seen play in a Utd shirt. Can't score, can't head, zero ball control ETHs obsession with him is bizzare to say the least.
There are a million combinations ETH could try before he brings on WW. Even Bruno as a false #9 would be miles better than watching WW flail about. He's genuinely incredibly shite.
There are a million combinations ETH could try before he brings on WW. Even Bruno as a false #9 would be miles better than watching WW flail about. He's genuinely incredibly shite.
So anything our manager does we should just trust him, and that's it.
Why is this thread even opened when every criticism or even counter argument can be defended with: "We should trust the manager"
RR is a good manager who could not make an impact at United. No need to give him the nasty.
He played well yesterday, helping progress the ball, layoffs, pressing. Martial did not do better.
Martial was back from injury on April 2nd, since then Weghorst started just 1 games in all competitions (if I checked correctly).
I don't know about "manager cannot do wrong" cult but there are plenty of "I will moan for the sake of it" shit gang which just moans and cry about every small thing.
What exactly is "big fan of Weghorst" mean, do you think ETH type "Weghorst best skills" on youtube and watches it endlessly? One more phrase that makes feck all sense.
Don't be childish. We should trust a manager that proves trustworthy. Question of course, but Wout is pretty much an awful necessity. We have arguably put together out best run with him in the team. That to me shows the manager made the right decision to play him in those games. Often that decision made itself as we had no obvious replacemehts on the bench. Wout can't play at a high level but for a loan player you need to not be overawed by the club as so many players have been over the decades. And Wout with his limited ability has relished being here.
If anyone considers Martial's performance as anything but shit vs Bournemouth then yes, they don't deserve any attention. So yeah agree to disagree.
I agree, we have regressed in our passing in the last months. Fixture congestion means less training time to work on it.
We are in survivalmode, there has been no time to improve routines.
Standards haven’t dropped. They’ve raised all season.
Weghorst started one game in all competition once Martial was back from injury, in the games he didn't start he played 106 mins in 6 games, if you add 2 unused sub games then it's 106 mins in 8 league games. That's feck all minutes.
He’s a good poster who I’ve always liked. ETH and Wout seems to be his Achilles heel though.
ETH understands Wout is necessary for this season and needs to say good things to keep his morale up.
No way Wout will be retained next season.
No way Wout will be retained next season.
Poster 1 - If Weghorst was starting when Martial was fit then what you said makes sense.
Poster 2 - To be fair, he also started several games as No.10, with us having to change the positions of Bruno
Poster 3 - Out of nowhere comes up with nonsense "Defending a situation in which our manager puts Wout Weghorst in Bruno's position and move Bruno out wide is one of the most ridiculous things you can read here"
No it wouldn‘t. We need a focal point in attack for the others to play off. Putting Bruno there is counter productive because we need him in midfield and around the box. We need Eriksen in midfield.
Sabitzer is injured. There is no one else to put there that could do the job but Martial and WW.
Playing a false nine requires a top top player to do it and a sublime structure around it. We can‘t do it.
The state we were in last season and in the first couple of games of this it's been a great turnaround. A decent striker in January would have elevated us to a different level. I would also think we would have been in the Europa Final had it not been for injuries to Martinez and Varane. The qualification to the top 4 would also have been a lot easier.
In fact, we could possibly have been chasing Arsenal for the runners-up place. Yes. as @moses has mentioned in a few threads fatigue has also not helped with the limited quality of the squad.
In fact, we could possibly have been chasing Arsenal for the runners-up place. Yes. as @moses has mentioned in a few threads fatigue has also not helped with the limited quality of the squad.
Nothing. WW did better than Martial yesterday, which says it all.
EtH and his coaching staff have done a wonderful job and should really be commended. We could still end up with the FA Cup.
Sure I‘ll defend it. It helped us beating Barcelona. You were all crapping your pants for those games.
I think a full off season with all the data the manager has now with a chance to focus on coaching will see just as big a leap forward as we have seen this year. I'm genuinely excited for next season already!
Remove the adjustment to a new system, the world cup and the europa league madness and next year could see us really develop our playing style.
My only worry with ETH is him leaving. Bayern or Real could soon be looking for a new manager and with how things are handled by the higher ups at this club I wouldn't be surprised if he gets fed up and decides to leave if one of those clubs comes knocking.
We will end up with the FA Cup. We'll ram their treble dreams up where the sun doesn't shine.
Only worry is take over situation which probably will have impact on funds available for transfers.
I'm not sure he's the type of character to move from the club unless pushed out. I'm basing this on his dignity and comments prior to moving to United from Ajax.
That's the spirit!
Can't be any other way, otherwise madness will take over...
We beat Barcelona when we subbed off Wout. We were losing 1-0 and he was subbed at half time and we won 2-1.
Thank you ETH United
I'm sending in my thank you early because with three games left, the results won't change the way I feel towards ETH and the job he has done so far, we all knew he took over a broken team filled with prima donnas, inspite all of that it's fair to say he's Managed the beast very well, guided us to our first trophy(Albeit the Micky Mouse cup) in six years and we're still a fight away from an unlikely FA Cup glory, I can't thank him enough for making us look like a team the opposition dread facing, compared to how we were last season he deserves credit.
On players note despite my many many criticism of De Gea, for reasons that has nothing to do with shot stopping, he has shown to be the best shot stopper in the league for a long time, he truly deserved the Golden glove award this year, some of the reactive saves he was able to pull off were quite breathaking...
Many special thanks also goes out to Martinez, Varane, Shaw, Dalot, Wan Bissaka, Malacia, Casimiro and to some degree Lindelöf for helping to keep as many clean sheet through the course of the season.
Because when you look at our goal difference you'll understand that without such a solid foundation we wouldn't have had such a good season, considering our attack have been very wasteful in front of goal.
One more point in our next two games and our primary objective(Top 4) would be secured.
Special S/O to our stand in captain Bruno and to Eriksen, Marcus Rashford, Garnacho, Antony for contributing in attack this season, hopefully with a few good signings in the summer we should be better than what was on show this year.
I'm sending in my thank you early because with three games left, the results won't change the way I feel towards ETH and the job he has done so far, we all knew he took over a broken team filled with prima donnas, inspite all of that it's fair to say he's Managed the beast very well, guided us to our first trophy(Albeit the Micky Mouse cup) in six years and we're still a fight away from an unlikely FA Cup glory, I can't thank him enough for making us look like a team the opposition dread facing, compared to how we were last season he deserves credit.
On players note despite my many many criticism of De Gea, for reasons that has nothing to do with shot stopping, he has shown to be the best shot stopper in the league for a long time, he truly deserved the Golden glove award this year, some of the reactive saves he was able to pull off were quite breathaking...
Many special thanks also goes out to Martinez, Varane, Shaw, Dalot, Wan Bissaka, Malacia, Casimiro and to some degree Lindelöf for helping to keep as many clean sheet through the course of the season.
Because when you look at our goal difference you'll understand that without such a solid foundation we wouldn't have had such a good season, considering our attack have been very wasteful in front of goal.
One more point in our next two games and our primary objective(Top 4) would be secured.
Special S/O to our stand in captain Bruno and to Eriksen, Marcus Rashford, Garnacho, Antony for contributing in attack this season, hopefully with a few good signings in the summer we should be better than what was on show this year.
Amen!
WhoScored had him at a 7.11 rating, and he was growing into the game(as someone that hasn't played a lot recently), but yeah let's whip him at 55 mins for a guy who should be playing League 1 football.
Bet those doubting him feel a bit silly now heh
Clear.
Credit it to him for pushing the team over the finish line. Dropping points yesterday after 2 losses on the spin would have really amped up the pressure for the final two games, so having top 4 all but done is great. We've also got another cup final to cap off the season. Very happy. He is absolutely the man for the job.
Can’t wait to give Lampard a good send off
It's still noneless an option, whether it'd be a good or bad one. My main point is that is that there are tactical setups available that don't include Weghorst
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