Of course we’re headed in the right direction, but a lot of people have been getting very carried away in recent weeks about him.
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Of course we’re headed in the right direction, but a lot of people have been getting very carried away in recent weeks about him.
It might even end up more cups. For all this win it will be more than Liverpool get. They can frame the DVD instead. 7-0 Christ.
Would it help if we add the phrase "relative to where we've been" on the end?
I dunno. With hindsight, the late goals against City were kind of a turning point. Even when you’re getting smashed if you win the final period of the game it gives you something to bring with you to the next one. And the last few goals weren’t conceded due to throwing too many men forward anyway. So it’s not as though a more defensive approach would have helped much.
He is very upset at the team. Rightfully so.
That still doesnt make it a great season if you understand what the word great means.
Yeah, Villa put 7 past them while they were pretty much in the middle of their pomp.
It does happen, but as a manager he's got massive work in front of him to avoid the kind of capitulation we saw under Ole and Rangnick last year. We've got good league position and decent cup draws, just needs to properly get us back on the horse.
We probably all needed a slap round the head with a wet kipper.
Depressing. Carabao Cup win seems like scant reward after performance and result like that. Defending for the 2nd goal was pathetic and Liverpool looked like scoring on every attack in the 2nd half.
All of them probably were, but there are varying degrees and he'll probably consider that when selecting his next team because it is downright impossible to drop every single one of them.
Martinez and Antony were amongst the worst though
Gakpo's 1st he didn't bother but ok hard anyway.
Gakpo's 2nd - how do you get chipped from there? Firminos shot goes right through him. He may as well have not showed up today as he didn't stop anything. 7 goals from 3.6 xG on target. He didn't get close to anything today. Wouldn't have made a difference, but he definitely played his part in making it look this bad.
Bollocks, learn what the world great means.
I think there’s still question marks over Dalot who could be replaced, same goes for Fred, obviously Weghorst won’t be waiting here so a quality striker needs to be brought in and as good as De Gea has been his lack of ball playing ability and commanding of his box causes us so many problems when trying to play out from the back, so he’ll potentially be replaced sooner rather than later as well. I just hope he gets the necessary backing in the summer to really make us a force and cut out these embarrassing defeats that have become a regular occurrence for us now.
Good interview, unprofessional is the word.
If he had a top CF to help Rashford with the goals then today we may well have been going into halftime leading the game. The second half was a joke though and I keep thinking about Fergie’s fury when we conceded 6 against City. Things like this can’t happen.
That happens as a keeper.
He's not saving either Nunez header, nor both of Salah's so that's four goals he can't save.
Gakpo's first he's unsighted, that's five, the Firmino one is unlucky tbh finishes between his legs from close range and Gakpo's second is a clipped finish which just goes in.
Pedantry borne out of an emotional loss
Most players don't attempt a chip at that angle. He went low expecting a shot like 99% of the time. It just about went over his shoulder.
Voice of reason. I’ll put this in the «shit happens» column. How we react next game is what’s important now imo.
Maybe I need to go back and rewatch but it felt as though we kept getting caught with our midfield bypassed, our fullbacks out of position and nobody tracking back to help.
Agree re the 'go out and win the second half' mentality but at a certain point I do think pragmatism and needing to protect the strides forward (mentally) the team has made has to come into play.
This is such a lazy take on it...(I guess now it's easy to understand why you consider xG stupid
)You need to understand the context of it.
Yes, we are Manchester United. The biggest club in England and probably top 3 in the world behind Real Madrid and Barcelona...but just look at the last 10 years, like another poster said. More specifically, look at last season...you don't need to look further than that.
Also, look at the competition...City, Arsenal and Liverpool all have good squads and great managers...ten Hag is also there on that level, but has a significantly weaker and thinner squad. It's difficult to say "give him time" after all the managerial failures of the last 10 years, but he is actually the one that should be given exactly that and just let him keep building.
Honestly we've been riding our luck for a while now. I'm often accused of pessimism or negativity, but I genuinely don't think we've been playing well for a while now, and said as much before the game today. Yes we've ground out results and shown resilience and heart. But we've been outplayed by a number of pretty average teams in the first half, and it's simply not sustainable to keep winning when we can't control possession and we only have one reliable goalscorer.
The other thing is that we played without Casemiro tonight as he was terrible from the first minute and didn't look fit or focused, and without him we're basically back to Rangnick FC. Getting a good backup to him has to be a massive priority for us in the summer.
The other thing is that we played without Casemiro tonight as he was terrible from the first minute and didn't look fit or focused, and without him we're basically back to Rangnick FC. Getting a good backup to him has to be a massive priority for us in the summer.
He's still a bit raw and naive, but it's his first season in the PL so still learning.
I am still 100% behind him. He's done an amazing job with these bunch of bottlers. He's had a bad day at the office too, imo, but what they've done today... utterly unacceptable. Punishments are warranted.
What did he say?
It’s a great first season as part of the process.
You can forgive them, new league and a game unlike no other in world football, you want experienced heads around them and the others just threw the towel in and went into self preservation mode
Hopefully this will help the Glazers head for the exit door…
anyone complaining about Ten Hag needs their head read. The players are knackered and that was also just a very bad day. Everything went in for Liverpool.. reminded me of when we battered Roma
anyone complaining about Ten Hag needs their head read. The players are knackered and that was also just a very bad day. Everything went in for Liverpool.. reminded me of when we battered Roma
Yeah a more mature manager would have parked the bus at 3-0.
A good reality check for the players, fans and the manager
what is this now, Poch in?
Liverpool 7-0 Man Utd: Erik ten Hag says his side 'lost our heads' in Anfield thrashing https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64857557
Heavily lost and humiliated, yes but it’s just 3 points. We’ve been here before. But move on. Continue with the rebuilding. For me, it’s never about winning this game. It’s about building a squad capable of seriously challenging for the title in 2-3 seasons. What ETH has done so far is remarkable. Don’t let this one off game curtailed our upward progress of the last months. Dust it off. The journey is long.
This Liverpool team under Klopp even in the form they’re in are one of the best teams in a long time at doing what they did today. Just clinical chance taking machine. They smelt blood and wiped the floor with us.
Embarrassing performance and result but have full confidence in ETH that he will use this to motivate the players. Said the right thing in the post match interview as well.
Oh, we won the xG game, did we? Talk about embarrasing.
He’s earned the right for this to be swept under the rug for now. There are clear weaknesses in the team and I think he’s done well to mostly mask them so far this season.
This summer we have to find a GK, RB, CM and CF with the latter being absolutely paramount.
This summer we have to find a GK, RB, CM and CF with the latter being absolutely paramount.
Yup those four are key.
Did we ever fine players for such a terrible performance? Or is it genuinely a no no thing to do? Just wondering.
If we did fine them after every hammering we could afford to buy some players with the money saved.
If we did fine them after every hammering we could afford to buy some players with the money saved.
Nothing is going to be swept under the rug.He won’t do that.
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