Ignore that it’s Martial’s best position these days, who would you play there?
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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Ignore that it’s Martial’s best position these days, who would you play there?
So who’s the striker that should be played in that position instead then?
also martial is a striker, he wears the #9 for a reason. Whether he’s good enough is another question but he’s in no way being played out of position.
Rashford has been played there out of necessity only when neither of our other forwards were fit or available.
I agree that Martial's best position is through the middle rather than on the left, where we have plenty of options anyway. There really is no real alternative other than Rashford when Martial is injured. We all know that we are in need of a specialist CF/striker.
I sincerley hope Im wrong but I genuenly dont think he is. Since I support this club I honestly hope we win the league in the next 3 years because Im not one of those "I told you so" "fans" who gloat on their scepticism later. I really want to be wrong about this and we will not know this until the end of this season and 10 games into the next
Bizarre opinion. Maybe if you just look at scorelines. Our attack was woeful.
This man has single-handedly made and won the case for a headbang emoji.
You can be right us not winning the league in the next 3 years and still be completely wrong about now, which you clearly are.
If you thought anyone was coming in after last season’s absolute clusterfeck and doing better than a 60% win rate in the league, I suggest you check your mental health.
Just check out Pep’s first season at City, or Klopp’s at Liverpool for example, and both took over sides who amassed more points than we managed in 2021-2022.
So now we know the two best managers in the game couldn’t manage it, and from a better starting point, I must ask, what would be a “brilliant” first 6 months be to you after last season’s 58 point clusterfeck? Would it be expecting a title challenge? A 70% PL win rate. A points per game total to match SAF’s final season?
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People seriously thought United were title contenders going into Ole's 3rd season and ignored so many signs. Can't just assemble a nice team on paper, roll the ball out, and expect them to perform in such a competitive and unforgiving PL.
Absolutely. The very idea of counting 'scorelines' in football analysis. Pfffft.
You genuinely thought our attack was good under Ole? What weird world have I stepped into on here tonight.
Who did Rashford and Martial have their best season under?
Ron Atkinson?
Bzzt, try again
Anyone questioning ETH's start is mental, honestly.
Pep's first 15 games at City brought in 30 points, Klopp's first 15 games at Liverpool brought in 22 points.
The 1st two games of the season were an anomaly. Since then he's averaging 2.3 points per game, and that's with a very difficult start (played Arsenal, City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs, and Newcastle in the next, what, 8 or 9 games after those opening 2?). He's doing this while dealing with the Ronaldo shite, implementing new ideas and coaching and getting players playing an entirely different brand of football, trying to get confidence back in a group that were absolutely devoid of confidence, and with the sale of the club suddenly hanging around over his head.
He's been fantastic so far.
Pep's first 15 games at City brought in 30 points, Klopp's first 15 games at Liverpool brought in 22 points.
The 1st two games of the season were an anomaly. Since then he's averaging 2.3 points per game, and that's with a very difficult start (played Arsenal, City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs, and Newcastle in the next, what, 8 or 9 games after those opening 2?). He's doing this while dealing with the Ronaldo shite, implementing new ideas and coaching and getting players playing an entirely different brand of football, trying to get confidence back in a group that were absolutely devoid of confidence, and with the sale of the club suddenly hanging around over his head.
He's been fantastic so far.
Yup thank god. We need that with Arse and City round the corner too.
It was the same for me, and I never fall in sleep in any situation. LVG had this power on me.
He knows how Wolves are going to come at us, they always press our defence aggressively.
Shows that Erik is aware of the different styles of opponent in this league and the tactics required when facing them.
I mean the score line is everything in a game at the end. And we had some goals with 20+ passes. Not sure what else you’re asking for. It’s weird to try to discredit a whole manager just because you somehow don’t like him. The facts are that there were some nice structures offensively and there were ideas that led to many goals in a game, and a lot of mental strength to come back in that season we finished 2nd.
For me I was happy at 20/21 and I’m happy right now.
Again, you have to stop being extreme. There were some great positives in that season that shouldn’t be ignored. Progress was visible and happening, including offensively.
I appreciate your reply.
There are other members before who have replied to my post who have corrected me on the role Fletcher plays. I was wrong. My apologies.
Are they good at the high press with Lopetegui? This would be a tough game away. But this game and Bournemouth should help move up in the league if we keep winning both.
De gea, Dalot, Lindelof, Varane, Shaw, Mctom, Rashford, Martial all improved.
That's what good coaching does. It's been so long since our players consistently perform better than expected(a hallmark of the fergie era)
That's what good coaching does. It's been so long since our players consistently perform better than expected(a hallmark of the fergie era)
Why do we need another wide player? We don’t have a true striker. That should be our focus along with a backup RB and beefing up the midfield.
last I checked we had Rashford, Sancho, Antony, Elanga, Garnacho on the wings and Bruno can play there as well.
Why do we need another wide player? We don’t have a true striker. That should be our focus along with a backup RB and beefing up the midfield.
last I checked we had Rashford, Sancho, Antony, Elanga, Garnacho on the wings and Bruno can play there as well.
I have always felt Felix was a central player. He can play a withdrawn 9 or an out and out 10, albeit more of a Mertens type 9. He did, and still does, remind me of Kaka but obviously nowhere near as accomplished or polished. Not his fault he was bought for 120m. I think it would be an excellent loan deal for us as there is little risk.
Results have been there but our goal difference and xG and xG differential tell a different story. I think he’s been great, but let’s wait and see how the rest of the season develops before anointing him.
Good, looked as if our lads had become rusty on it. Plus no more hoof ball to Ronaldo so we can go all in on chance creation especially under pressure.
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I see nothing out of ordinary about a dad who is a man and walking.
Shaw looked a better CB in that game that Maguire or Lindelof have in years. Play the best players instead of shoehorning in lower quality because they are “actual CB’s”.
Honestly what surprised me the most was how good he was in the air. 3/3 aerial duals won and looked so comfortable, given his short-ish stature. Really impressive that he was the one who asked to play there, usually has the reputation of being very "laid back".
So if not for the disastrous start to the first 2 matches of the season where we got 0 out of 6 points….. we will definitely be near the top….
we have a game in hand and if had 4 out of 6 points at the start …. We would be in race for the title….
I just hope we don’t end up regretting the first 2 games come end of the season….. need to keep up the winning…
we have a game in hand and if had 4 out of 6 points at the start …. We would be in race for the title….
I just hope we don’t end up regretting the first 2 games come end of the season….. need to keep up the winning…
feck me Riddler, at least tell us what the story is then?
I like that he has SAF vibe. His man management, discipline, no nonsense, tactics, training, nutrition, psychology, improving players and etc are similar to SAF. Hope this is the guy that finally will lead us back to where we belong.
Also, pray that the fecking Glazers will be gone by 1st quarter of 2023. And new owner who are willing to invest comes in and further support ETH.
Hope this is the light at the end of tunnel.
Also, pray that the fecking Glazers will be gone by 1st quarter of 2023. And new owner who are willing to invest comes in and further support ETH.
Hope this is the light at the end of tunnel.
We had a 0 goal difference before the Forest match, now it’s +3. We are struggling a bit to score goals and create chances. That’s what the data says.
I’m optimistic with ETH at the helm, the eye test is that we are playing much better than last year. He’s turned Dalot into quite a player. All that being said, given our goal difference and xG, results wise we are out performing our stats.
Do you want me to use one syllable words so you can understand?
United fans need to move on from SAF. I don't even know how one looks at Ten Hag and his football and thinks SAF
I’m trying to explain using nuance. I forgot that this is the Caf, and if you don’t have an opinion that is polarized to one side or another, a mouth breather will pop in and call you an idiot because your view is not black or white but rather shades of gray.
Wait, you're serious?
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