Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24

[LuckyScout78]

I think he want to deliver good result in his first season. I mean he want to achieve the expectations and goals that is to get United to next year champion league. It mean he will take lesser risk choice and decision. To win and get results.

And it will take a lot of time. The process to play 433 and total football and Ajax/Dutch football. The reason i think and believe which he and United have most of the time stuck with 4231 formation.
First like i said. It will take a lot of time. The process to play 433, total football and dominated football. Second he and United don't have the Kevin De Bruyne, Frenkie De Jong or Iniesta to play 433. Like this

Kevin De Bruyne - Frenkie De Jong/Casemiro - Iniesta

All of De Bruyne, De Jong and Iniesta are cm players that can run with the ball forward and pass players easily from central midfield area. So we can ask if United and Ten Hag have those kind of cm players in the team? Fred, Eriksen, McTom, Casemiro? Can those 4 cm players pass opponent players easily? No, most of the time they will pass the ball, instead of making run with the ball.

Compare to City. They have De Bruyne, Silva, Foden and Gundogan who can pass opponent players easily. And reasons why Pep and City are playing 433 and similar to Barca and Ajax football style.

And its why Liverpool 433 are struggling right now. They cm players in Fabinnho, Henderson, Thiago, Milner and Elliot. Only Elliot has the pace and guts to pass opponent players easily. But as the top and highest level. It demand players of De Bruyne, Iniesta, both City Silva to achieved a consistent result.

And back to Ten Hag and United. So i think he will not change and or play 433 more regular as long he doesn't the kind of players i mentioned above. And is the the reason why i support and back Ten Hag to get Frenkie De Jong and same type of player like Jude Bellingham. As cm player Bellingham has the pace and skill to pass opponent players easily. Like De Jong.
And Casemiro is a DCM and defensive cm player. So i believe Ten Hag will still go after to buy Frenkie De Jong, Bellingham or a new Kevin De Bruyne cm players.
Sum up. Ten Hag will definitely go for cm players that have offensive and creative abilities and qualities as he best sides. To play the attacking, build up play and the top level of total and 433 demand.

But against team United shall beat and parking bus team. I think and believe. This current 3 cm trio could work.
Ten Hag has and is using Bruno as RM/RW or what it call on the wide right side. If Bruno can play as RW/RM. Bruno can do a good job as RCM too. Where he has play for Portugal nation team many times too. So i will set up a 433 with this current United squad.

Like this in a 433/451:

Antony/Sancho - Bruno/McTom - Casemiro - Eriksen/Bruno - Rashford/Sancho/Garnacho + Martial/Ronaldo/Rashford


But like i said. I am convinced and believe this line up above will work against team that park the bus and give United initiative to dictate and dominate the ball possession.
But again like i said above. Ten Hag think Bruno is best as a CAM and nr.10. And doesn't have the right players to play 433. Reason why he try to buy Frenkie De Jong. With all of those combine the expectation to get top 4 and result that lead United to get champion league spot. He will decide and choose more safe and lesser risk choice and decision. Which he believe Bruno will do a really good job as a nr.10. Because of Bruno really aggressive and first presser on the ball.


After 1-3 games. But after 10 games with United. And still play same formation as Ole and Ragnick. I think there are because of the reasons i mentioned above. Because when he get the offensive and creative players he want. I think after that. We will see 433 will get use more often. But not after before that. And like above. I am backing and hope Ten Hag will still go after Frenkie De Jong, Jude Bellingham and a new Kevin De Bruyne kind of cm players. Top top creative and offensive players. Not only because of total football and 433. But because, if you got those kind of players and quality. Top and world class qualities and level. I think and believe and result of it will be top level too. Consistent top level.

In other words. Formations have something to say. But in the end. It depend on the qualities and abilities of the players. So yeah. This United current team and squad can still strength a lot. Special in midfield, more sharp and potential attacking players, A top world class of a CB/ playing beside Martinez. Will improve and make United more complete.

 

[Hughie77]

He obviously felt we weren't making any headway in the current situation, so decided to roll the dice.

On paper taking off a defender and chucking on another attacker should work, but unfortunately it didn't really work out that way as our build up fell apart.

Maybe in training it worked well, It happens, we learn and move on. We still won 1-0 away in Spain - usually we'd be delighted with that.

Agree lots been said about the 2nd half ,but you could see The changes they made, they just sat nothing up front, played on counter and wasted time from 55mins on . So going long was maybe a tactic that was hoping it would work. Agree away win in Spain take it.

 

[TMDaines]

You honestly think an elite manager with a reputation for attention to detail and heavy involvement in coaching would try a formation/tactics in our biggest game of the season that he hadn’t worked on in the training ground beforehand?

Considering Maguire (and others) have been injured for a good chunk of the season, I’m sceptical how much we have trained with that team in that formation.

 

[Adam-Utd]

Agree lots been said about the 2nd half ,but you could see The changes they made, they just sat nothing up front, played on counter and wasted time from 55mins on . So going long was maybe a tactic that was hoping it would work. Agree away win in Spain take it.

I think the other issue was our attacking subs were Pellstri and Elanga. Both aren't really fancied by the manager by the looks of it.

I had no issue with going long with a hail mary attempt. The worst part was the delivery into the box was patheticly bad, we barely had a chance to actually utilise it.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Considering Maguire (and others) have been injured for a good chunk of the season, I’m sceptical how much we have trained with that team in that formation.

I’m equally sceptical that Maguire would have been first choice in that role when we try it in training.

 

[Desert Eagle]

I didn’t think it was a great performance yesterday, and I felt our attacking play was a lot more disjointed than it has been for most of this season. On the other hand, 1-0 away in San Sebastian is not a bad result, and while I found La Real slightly more productive than us, it was an even performance away to a very solid team. 5/10 seems unreasonably harsh. I’d say 6.

I’m not sure your solutions would have been better, though. I think the Hammers game showed us what most of us already know - that we are at the back end of a rather heavy streak of 13 games in 41 days, and Ten Hag has not been here long enough to have two elevens who can play at close to the same level. He has to rotate, and certainly some players show they’re worse for wear. 1-0 away to Real Sociedad should be seen in that light as well.

To add on to your second point the players are adapting to a new style of football and a new manager in one of the most congested seasons ever as well. We really need to worry about burnout in the second half of the season. Iirc something similar might have happened in Klopps first year in charge where they tailed off towards the end.

 

[Ish]

Yeah I guess I was trying to be cheeky. My mistake I guess.

Aaargh no worries, at times these boards do become batshit crazy, so you're never really sure when someone is serious or not

 

[Flexdegea]

The overreacting from last night


Won the game but didn't get the 2nd, but Jesus look at the bench. Bare bones.


Would understand the reactions if we lost.


Again comes back to the penalty that shouldn't been the first game.

 

[flameinthesun]

As someone who has been 100% behind Ten Hag all season I find it very weird some of the comments since last night. Not the comments criticizing Ten Hag's decisions last night (because they deserved to be scrutinized and criticized in relation to that game) but the weird comments saying "no one want's to give ten hag praise when we play well but when we lose the pitchforks are out" etc etc etc. It's this weird outrage against the hordes of criticism that Ten Hag has been getting last night when in reality, most people are just saying he got his tactics wrong which is a fair comment to make.

 

[Teja]

5 clean sheets in our last 6 games. 9 clean sheets in 18 games. Getting back to our best defensive form, we look very hard to break down right now.

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Season​	Games it took to get to 9 Clean Sheets (All comps)​
22-23​	18​
21-22​	37​
20-21​	27​
19-20​	29​
18-19​	34​
17-18​	13​

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That's a very good record, even better considering the schedule and adjustments to defensive core.

Still not buying it. Even if you exclude the first two games, we have an xG of 12.2 in 10 games. That's not really good enough. Remove the City game it's 9xG / 9 games. We're getting into low-ish sample sizes here but 1xG per game isn't that great.

In the past five games we accumulated an xG of 3.9 (Sociedad 1.1, West Ham 1.1, Sheriff 0.0, Chelsea 1.1, Spurs 0.6) and only let in 1 goal thanks to some DDG heroics. We will revert to the mean eventually and concede more than the xG suggests.

The defence looks better but we're still giving up chances.

For context, still 100% backing Ten Hag and think he's the right guy for us.

 

[Santoryo]

Still not buying it. Even if you exclude the first two games, we have an xG of 12.2 in 10 games. That's not really good enough. Remove the City game it's 9xG / 9 games. We're getting into low-ish sample sizes here but 1xG per game isn't that great.

In the past five games we accumulated an xG of 3.9 (Sociedad 1.1, West Ham 1.1, Sheriff 0.0, Chelsea 1.1, Spurs 0.6) and only let in 1 goal thanks to some DDG heroics. We will revert to the mean eventually and concede more than the xG suggests.

The defence looks better but we're still giving up chances.

For context, still 100% backing Ten Hag and think he's the right guy for us.

Aside for the last 2 games(Sociedad and Westham) which we've played poorly compared to the previous 3 we don't give up many chances lately. We hardly gave away any chances against any of Tottenham, Chelsea and Sheriff.

Of course after the reintegration of Ronaldo which forces Ten Hag to shuffle everything to keep him on the pitch we've regressed from the positive run we had a week or so ago. Teams couldn't create or get a sniff while we were actually creating decent chances but couldn't finish them turn into us completely losing the plot in our last 2 games. Can't create as often as a week ago and we somehow also starting conceding more chances.

Let's see how we look like once players are back and Ten Hag isn't forced to play Ronaldo and shuffle everyone.

 

[mav_9me]

Still not buying it. Even if you exclude the first two games, we have an xG of 12.2 in 10 games. That's not really good enough. Remove the City game it's 9xG / 9 games. We're getting into low-ish sample sizes here but 1xG per game isn't that great.

In the past five games we accumulated an xG of 3.9 (Sociedad 1.1, West Ham 1.1, Sheriff 0.0, Chelsea 1.1, Spurs 0.6) and only let in 1 goal thanks to some DDG heroics. We will revert to the mean eventually and concede more than the xG suggests.

The defence looks better but we're still giving up chances.

For context, still 100% backing Ten Hag and think he's the right guy for us.

Chelsea's xG includes pen, so should be adjusted for that.

Spurs xG was really 0.6?

 

[3KDré]

Still not buying it. Even if you exclude the first two games, we have an xG of 12.2 in 10 games. That's not really good enough. Remove the City game it's 9xG / 9 games. We're getting into low-ish sample sizes here but 1xG per game isn't that great.

In the past five games we accumulated an xG of 3.9 (Sociedad 1.1, West Ham 1.1, Sheriff 0.0, Chelsea 1.1, Spurs 0.6) and only let in 1 goal thanks to some DDG heroics. We will revert to the mean eventually and concede more than the xG suggests.

The defence looks better but we're still giving up chances.

For context, still 100% backing Ten Hag and think he's the right guy for us.

If anything that just shows why you should not just rely on xG. We had 30 shots against Spurs and played probably the best game of football I've seen us play in about 10 years. Rashford especially missed a shot that we all agreed he should have scored 1v1 against Lloris.

 

[croadyman]

Both is true, to be fair. If we beat Omonia by more than one goal, the penalty wouldn't have mattered

Thank you because that seems to be forgotten

 

[croadyman]

Best manager we’ve had since Sir Alex. We’re actually heading in the right direction at last. If we can somehow remove our parasitic owners next then we’ll in very good shape.

Their heels are being firmly dug in despite how much we protest which is frustrating

 

[el3mel]

As someone who has been 100% behind Ten Hag all season I find it very weird some of the comments since last night. Not the comments criticizing Ten Hag's decisions last night (because they deserved to be scrutinized and criticized in relation to that game) but the weird comments saying "no one want's to give ten hag praise when we play well but when we lose the pitchforks are out" etc etc etc. It's this weird outrage against the hordes of criticism that Ten Hag has been getting last night when in reality, most people are just saying he got his tactics wrong which is a fair comment to make.

Some here think of Ten Hag as a god who makes no mistakes at all. Like even Fergie used to make mistakes and get his tactics wrong in several games but Ten Hag ? Are you kidding me ? He does no wrong.

I haven't commented on last 2 games since I didn't have the chance to watch them but this has been the case for some time now.

 

[USREDEVIL]

The overreacting from last night


Won the game but didn't get the 2nd, but Jesus look at the bench. Bare bones.


Would understand the reactions if we lost.


Again comes back to the penalty that shouldn't been the first game.

I'm with you newb. Maguire was a bit wacky but it created a little bit of chaos and it was getting a bit predictable.

 

[izak]

So we've played 10 games in the space of 35 days, won 7, drew 2, lost 1 and scored 17 and conceded 7 and kept 7 clean sheets.

Could have been better but overall considering where we were this time last season it's and improvement.

 

[Flexdegea]

So we've played 10 games in the space of 35 days, won 7, drew 2, lost 1 and scored 17 and conceded 7 and kept 7 clean sheets.

Could have been better but overall considering where we were this time last season it's and improvement.

Exactly. We are a totally different team these days. Another 3 games in 7 days coming up with a Squad massively depleted at the moment but we keep winning.


Understand discussion involved after games, but the reaction last night was crazy especially straight after the game, and a game we won must add.



Around here is going to be immense when we do lose, and their will be more defeats come end of season.

 

[MUnchies]

Why all the fuss? He tried his plan C and didn't work, we move. Pep played Sane as a left wing back, Potter just recently Sterling also as a wingback when he already has 2, Sir Alex played Rafael as a CM, Klopp played Steven Caulker as a centre forward etc

 

[cyberman]

Exactly. We are a totally different team these days. Another 3 games in 7 days coming up with a Squad massively depleted at the moment but we keep winning.


Understand discussion involved after games, but the reaction last night was crazy especially straight after the game, and a game we won must add.



Around here is going to be immense when we do lose, and their will be more defeats come end of season.

There’s a portion of our fanbase waiting to explode at the team. It’s like we’re building up to a loss with negative anticipation and extreme confirmation bias

 

[Flying_Heckfish]

I think the fact he was willing to even try such a formation shows how much progress he's made with the squad recently. I did think at the time "oh, this is his Pep moment..", but straight away the data showed he likes this formation in such situations.

They are at least open to his ideas now, even if we didn't pull it off. We are progressing, it;s early days, let's assess if it worked at the end of the season.

 

[mav_9me]

Exactly. We are a totally different team these days. Another 3 games in 7 days coming up with a Squad massively depleted at the moment but we keep winning.


Understand discussion involved after games, but the reaction last night was crazy especially straight after the game, and a game we won must add.



Around here is going to be immense when we do lose, and their will be more defeats come end of season.

You are looking at the results. I am worried about the performances. The last 2 games haven't been good. Now there's only so much ETH can do with a squad getting depleted. But I always look at performances, not at results.

 

[roonster09]

Chelsea's xG includes pen, so should be adjusted for that.

Spurs xG was really 0.6?

Spurs xG includes offside chance for Kane which was around 0.3 or 0.4.

 

[mav_9me]

Spurs xG includes offside chance for Kane which was around 0.3 or 0.4.

Wtf? That doesn't make any sense. They can't be using that. Sigh

 

[roonster09]

Still not buying it. Even if you exclude the first two games, we have an xG of 12.2 in 10 games. That's not really good enough. Remove the City game it's 9xG / 9 games. We're getting into low-ish sample sizes here but 1xG per game isn't that great.

In the past five games we accumulated an xG of 3.9 (Sociedad 1.1, West Ham 1.1, Sheriff 0.0, Chelsea 1.1, Spurs 0.6) and only let in 1 goal thanks to some DDG heroics. We will revert to the mean eventually and concede more than the xG suggests.

The defence looks better but we're still giving up chances.

For context, still 100% backing Ten Hag and think he's the right guy for us.

Excluding first 2 games, our xGA is 11.9 as per understat, which is 4th best in league and in the 10 games we played City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle. I'm sure none of the other teams played better team than us.

If you check opponent xG, their game vs ManUtd would be in their worst top 5 in most cases (in creating chances).

Also yes we are conceding chances, just like every team does. Even the best defensive teams averages 0.8-0.9 xGA.

We are still work in progress, considering the games we have played, our defensive record looks good.

 

[roonster09]

Wtf? That doesn't make any sense. They can't be using that. Sigh

That's because ref played advantage and we went on to score from the advantage.

 

[Lebo]

Well 80% of the forum predicted United to play bad if Ronaldo returns. Its happening. Is it solemnly on him? No but Its hard to ignore that we look better without him in every aspect.

 

[croadyman]

I think he want to deliver good result in his first season. I mean he want to achieve the expectations and goals that is to get United to next year champion league. It mean he will take lesser risk choice and decision. To win and get results.

And it will take a lot of time. The process to play 433 and total football and Ajax/Dutch football. The reason i think and believe which he and United have most of the time stuck with 4231 formation.
First like i said. It will take a lot of time. The process to play 433, total football and dominated football. Second he and United don't have the Kevin De Bruyne, Frenkie De Jong or Iniesta to play 433. Like this

Kevin De Bruyne - Frenkie De Jong/Casemiro - Iniesta

All of De Bruyne, De Jong and Iniesta are cm players that can run with the ball forward and pass players easily from central midfield area. So we can ask if United and Ten Hag have those kind of cm players in the team? Fred, Eriksen, McTom, Casemiro? Can those 4 cm players pass opponent players easily? No, most of the time they will pass the ball, instead of making run with the ball.

Compare to City. They have De Bruyne, Silva, Foden and Gundogan who can pass opponent players easily. And reasons why Pep and City are playing 433 and similar to Barca and Ajax football style.

And its why Liverpool 433 are struggling right now. They cm players in Fabinnho, Henderson, Thiago, Milner and Elliot. Only Elliot has the pace and guts to pass opponent players easily. But as the top and highest level. It demand players of De Bruyne, Iniesta, both City Silva to achieved a consistent result.

And back to Ten Hag and United. So i think he will not change and or play 433 more regular as long he doesn't the kind of players i mentioned above. And is the the reason why i support and back Ten Hag to get Frenkie De Jong and same type of player like Jude Bellingham. As cm player Bellingham has the pace and skill to pass opponent players easily. Like De Jong.
And Casemiro is a DCM and defensive cm player. So i believe Ten Hag will still go after to buy Frenkie De Jong, Bellingham or a new Kevin De Bruyne cm players.
Sum up. Ten Hag will definitely go for cm players that have offensive and creative abilities and qualities as he best sides. To play the attacking, build up play and the top level of total and 433 demand.

But against team United shall beat and parking bus team. I think and believe. This current 3 cm trio could work.
Ten Hag has and is using Bruno as RM/RW or what it call on the wide right side. If Bruno can play as RW/RM. Bruno can do a good job as RCM too. Where he has play for Portugal nation team many times too. So i will set up a 433 with this current United squad.

Like this in a 433/451:

Antony/Sancho - Bruno/McTom - Casemiro - Eriksen/Bruno - Rashford/Sancho/Garnacho + Martial/Ronaldo/Rashford


But like i said. I am convinced and believe this line up above will work against team that park the bus and give United initiative to dictate and dominate the ball possession.
But again like i said above. Ten Hag think Bruno is best as a CAM and nr.10. And doesn't have the right players to play 433. Reason why he try to buy Frenkie De Jong. With all of those combine the expectation to get top 4 and result that lead United to get champion league spot. He will decide and choose more safe and lesser risk choice and decision. Which he believe Bruno will do a really good job as a nr.10. Because of Bruno really aggressive and first presser on the ball.


After 1-3 games. But after 10 games with United. And still play same formation as Ole and Rangnick. I think there are because of the reasons i mentioned above. Because when he get the offensive and creative players he want. I think after that. We will see 433 will get use more often. But not after before that. And like above. I am backing and hope Ten Hag will still go after Frenkie De Jong, Jude Bellingham and a new Kevin De Bruyne kind of cm players. Top top creative and offensive players. Not only because of total football and 433. But because, if you got those kind of players and quality. Top and world class qualities and level. I think and believe and result of it will be top level too. Consistent top level.

In other words. Formations have something to say. But in the end. It depend on the qualities and abilities of the players. So yeah. This United current team and squad can still strength a lot. Special in midfield, more sharp and potential attacking players, A top world class of a CB/ playing beside Martinez. Will improve and make United more complete.

Who would you prefer out of FDJ/Bellingham

 

[SAFMUTD]

We have a weak squad, yes many players but we only have about 9-10 reliable players, all the others are either youngsters, past it or simply not good enough.

As soon as fatigue kick us we struggle massively, we need proper investment at least 4-5 new players to have a proper squad that can actually challenge.

 

[Tarrou]

Chelsea's xG includes pen, so should be adjusted for that.

Spurs xG was really 0.6?

why adjust it for that?

 

[croadyman]

We have a weak squad, yes many players but we only have about 9-10 reliable players, all the others are either youngsters, past it or simply not good enough.

As soon as fatigue kick us we struggle massively, we need proper investment at least 4-5 new players to have a proper squad that can actually challenge.

Yeah a few injuries and drop off is huge

 

[Flexdegea]

You are looking at the results. I am worried about the performances. The last 2 games haven't been good. Now there's only so much ETH can do with a squad getting depleted. But I always look at performances, not at results.

Why you worried about the performances?

We know this team when fully full and healthy can perform very well. The stats tell us this. Theres a massive elephant in the room at the moment regarding the last 2 games ie Ronaldo, and again we are struggling with the squad and fatigue has set in too as the games coming thick and fast. Even Maguire has to be used and to be honest we are still solid enough defensively.


If anything I'm more than pleased how we performing at the moment. I'd be worried if it went back to the first 2 games of the season where with the same team and players out we were woeful. This ain't happening now.

 

[CM]

Exactly this.

It was clear that we were struggling to play out with 3 at the back. Reverting to our standard formation and giving De Gea the option of two centre backs or the full backs to play through would've made us better going forward. Plus without the full backs making forward runs Garnacho and Bruno basically become non entities. Our whole front line vanished apart from when they were contesting aerials out of the back.

After the subs we played virtually no football. We couldn't build up because of the shape so our players resorted to long ball football. For pretty much half an hour our 'tactic' was boot it to Ronaldo, then Maguire, and hope for the second ball.

I'm still surprised that Ten Hag didn't keep faith with his traditional approach. Against Newcastle and Sheriff, for the most part, he stuck with 4-2-3-1 and just had the team keep playing until they made that final chance. Against Newcastle Rashford missed, against Sheriff McTominay scored, however there was no panic. We stuck to playing football and eventually made an opening.

I could be wrong but I feel like, had we just stuck to what we know best, we would've made at least 1 more good chance in that last half an hour.

Ten Hag panicked and p-d the bed. That's the only explanation I have for that second half. Even if you wanna resort to long ball football, do it on 80 minutes not 60 minutes. Such a huge and unneeded departure from the quality, systematic football we have been trying to play since Ten Hag took over.

Agree with most of this but he didn't resort to long ball football on 60 minutes. He was attempting to make positive changes which didn't pay off. We only went long ball in the last 10 minutes when Maguire came on for Garnacho.

 

[MDFC Manager]

You are looking at the results. I am worried about the performances. The last 2 games haven't been good. Now there's only so much ETH can do with a squad getting depleted. But I always look at performances, not at results.

Eriksen and Bruno are looking tired and leggy, that's huge impact on our play style. Yes, a centre forward is really needed but if we can get a decent playmaking midfielder in January, we need to get him

 

[mattunited1978]

Ten hag fu*ked it up with his changes on Thursday, felt we would of pinched another goal if he had made a couple of subtle changes, instead of the monstrosity of a formation he went with.

That said, i absolutely love the guy, best thing thats happened to our club in years, Thursday dosnt change that, every manager gets it wrong from time to time.

 

[LordSpud]

Ten hag fu*ked it up with his changes on Thursday, felt we would of pinched another goal if he had made a couple of subtle changes, instead of the monstrosity of a formation he went with.

That said, i absolutely love the guy, best thing thats happened to our club in years, Thursday dosnt change that, every manager gets it wrong from time to time.

What do you think he should have done? I actually feel he made the right call. Sociedad were sitting in accepting the 1-0 loss knowing it was enough. They were going down at every little touch with and without the ball and just breaking up the game and the ref was buying it. We essentially werent able to play with the ball on the ground so we had to resort to just pinging cross after cross in. Maguire, much like when we did it with Fellaini years ago, was just basically a target to hit and try from there. Certainly I dont think Elanga was going to come on and do anything substantial.

 

[Berbasbullet]

Actually quite like that he isn't too proud to stick a big lump up top to win second balls.

 

[Black Adder]

Hope he benches Cristiano as soon as possible, would rather see him try some of youngsters up-top than washed up has been.

 

[mav_9me]

Why you worried about the performances?

We know this team when fully full and healthy can perform very well. The stats tell us this. Theres a massive elephant in the room at the moment regarding the last 2 games ie Ronaldo, and again we are struggling with the squad and fatigue has set in too as the games coming thick and fast. Even Maguire has to be used and to be honest we are still solid enough defensively.


If anything I'm more than pleased how we performing at the moment. I'd be worried if it went back to the first 2 games of the season where with the same team and players out we were woeful. This ain't happening now.

Because sooner or later it will lead to dropped points.

Eriksen and Bruno are looking tired and leggy, that's huge impact on our play style. Yes, a centre forward is really needed but if we can get a decent playmaking midfielder in January, we need to get him

Agreed. Thats why the dip in performances imo but not much ETH can do about it.