Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24

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Why do you care about Ten Hag's reputation? I think it's realistic to expect ~150Mish to spend and I'm sure Ten Hag will get plenty of control over how it's spent. More than that is impossible, we're not an oil club.

That only gets you 2-3 players, assuming we don't splurge something like 80M on Rice.

Unfortunately, the rumor mill so far seems to suggest we've prioritized striker and CB (and probably DM because it's such a big gaping hole), so that means inadequate signings at RB, RW, CM.
I've posted this in this thread already but I'll do it again. Does anyone really expect that we will get 6-7 class players this summer?

I know ETH is the flavor of the month, but not a single sane business owner would give him 300 mil to splash in a summer, it's a big risk.

He'll get 2-3 players this summer and, if the season starts and ends well, maybe 1 in the winter and couple more next summer. He ain't no Pep or Klopp, this is his first venture into managing a very big club and it's completely alright for the club to be cautious , considering the absolute shit job the previous managers/club structure have done with them transfers.

Let's see what he can do with 2-3 good players and maybe, just maybe, a few loans and then give him the option to spend on whoever the feck he wants. Otherwise, we're back to square 1 and all the appointments and changes to the club's structure would mean jack shit.
 
I've posted this in this thread already but I'll do it again. Does anyone really expect that we will get 6-7 class players this summer?

I know ETH is the flavor of the month, but not a single sane business owner would give him 300 mil to splash in a summer, it's a big risk.

He'll get 2-3 players this summer and, if the season starts and ends well, maybe 1 in the winter and couple more next summer. He ain't no Pep or Klopp, this is his first venture into managing a very big club and it's completely alright for the club to be cautious , considering the absolute shit job the previous managers/club structure have done with them transfers.

Let's see what he can do with 2-3 good players and maybe, just maybe, a few loans and then give him the option to spend on whoever the feck he wants. Otherwise, we're back to square 1 and all the appointments and changes to the club's structure would mean jack shit.
How manager did LVG get in his first summer?
How many did Jose get?
 
How manager did LVG get in his first summer?
How many did Jose get?
I don’t think that’s comparable at all. From what we’ve seen post Fergie our summer budget seems to be 120-150m ish. Back in LVG’s time that was enough to get you 5 or 6 players. Neymar’s transfer to PSG changed the market to the extent that it’s now only enough to buy 3-4 players.
 
How manager did LVG get in his first summer?
How many did Jose get?
I could have worded it a bit better. I don't think it's about how many, it's about the quality of the players and the amount spent.

If we were to take Ralf's quotes on the chin, we need 6-8 players. If we were to take CAF's words on the chin, we need 10 players. What I was referring to is that the club will be cautious with giving him a shitload of money to throw around, especially considering we have a changed club structure with people in new roles. From a business standpoint, it's not a negative thing, but the CAF will always see it as "the Glazers just don't want to spend".
 
I don’t think that’s comparable at all. From what we’ve seen post Fergie our summer budget seems to be 120-150m ish. Back in LVG’s time that was enough to get you 5 or 6 players. Neymar’s transfer to PSG changed the market to the extent that it’s now only enough to buy 3-4 players.
Its enough if you shop wisely, especially as we’ll be selling too
 
If I was a Utd manager, the base for my first season from the current squad would be:

De Gea, Bruno, Ronaldo, Varane, Sancho, Elanga

Squad places for Fred, Lindelof, Shaw and Dalot

That's 10 players and 4 of them I wouldn't trust as week in, week out starters. He's a big job on his hands (If anybody hadn't realised)
 


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That's actually really low. Especially when you consider some positions have no clear cut first teamer so he must have picked from the entire squad. Of course assuming if true.
 
If Ten Hag has explicitly stated he isnt going to be talking to the English media about this, how does JBurt know what he wants to do etc. He writes the same kinds of articles every year.
 
Headline after he picks up a dozen women using his awkward pickup lines:

Ten Hag Blags Rag Tag Slag Shag

I'm assuming he'll use classic lines like "your faces are nearly symmetrical" and "who wants to play in a double pivot?"
Foreplay
ten Hag at blackboard drawing patterns
“Ok my penis shall be DeJong running into a big open space. The space shall be your genitals.”
Lady yawns. “Not again Erik! I’m going home”
Ten Hag “but we haven’t got to shooting from outside the box yet!”
 
Foreplay
ten Hag at blackboard drawing patterns
“Ok my penis shall be DeJong running into a big open space. The space shall be your genitals.”
Lady yawns. “Not again Erik! I’m going home”
Ten Hag “but we haven’t got to shooting from outside the box yet!”
Upset, Erik picks up his phone and calls the number that Gary Neville gave him.

"Hello Ryan? I've been told that you're an expert at playing away?"
 
That chant is so poor.

It's nearly 0.05% as cringeworthy as that new Liverpool chant that's out, and that's saying summit

 
I don’t think that’s comparable at all. From what we’ve seen post Fergie our summer budget seems to be 120-150m ish. Back in LVG’s time that was enough to get you 5 or 6 players. Neymar’s transfer to PSG changed the market to the extent that it’s now only enough to buy 3-4 players.
Depends on how intelligently we spend it. If we're smarter with our scouting and look to pick up a few solid players that are 20-40m then it stretches a bit more, especially if we target players who are either out of contract or only have one season left. We are also losing quite a lot of players which will free up a lot of wages, and possibly looking to sell more players on top of that.

It wouldn't surprise me at all (although I would be disappointed) if we only end up signing 3-4 players, but it also wouldn't surprise me if we sign 6-7.
 
If I was a Utd manager, the base for my first season from the current squad would be:

De Gea, Bruno, Ronaldo, Varane, Sancho, Elanga

Squad places for Fred, Lindelof, Shaw and Dalot

That's 10 players and 4 of them I wouldn't trust as week in, week out starters. He's a big job on his hands (If anybody hadn't realised)

Id go similar;

De Gea, Varane, Fred, Bruno, Sancho, Ronaldo

Squad/may improve;

Henderson, Maguire, Lindelof, Mctominay, Shaw, Elanga, Rashford
 
Remembering how the players cried about Rangnick's methods. First year will be ugly. Ready for the leaks amounting to "locker room doesn't feel he is good enough for them". The current crop are so deluded some are reportedly already asking for first team assurances, not even the good performers who are asking.


Are people just pretending nearly most this squad not going to be going soon, or on their way out.


Same crappy jokes, and head in the sand comments and he hasn't even got here yet
 
Ok

to not just be dismissive, but constructive

how about, some kind of Love Me Tender variation?
 
Are people just pretending nearly most this squad not going to be going soon, or on their way out.


Same crappy jokes, and head in the sand comments and he hasn't even got here yet
Or maybe not everyone is stupid or naive enough to believe the entitlement lies only with the players on their way out. What a lazy way of thinking, that an entire lockerroom culture is being perpetrated by the ones who just happen to be having their contracts end. Some of the stories of lockerroom factions don't even make mention of the likes of Lingard and Pogba, the latter was even half way across the globe in Dubai when some of these negative complaints about Rangnick were happening. Like they're the only players with bad attitudes.
 
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Or maybe not everyone is stupid enough to believe the entitlement lies only the players on their way out. What a lazy way of thinking, that an entire lockerroom culture is being perpetrated by the ones who just happen to be on their way out. All the stories of lockerroom divide don't even make mention of the likes of Lingard and Pogba, the latter of whom was half way across the globe in Dubai when some of these things were happen. Like they're the only players with bad attitudes.


Not a lazy way of thinking, their is literally a new manager coming In to literally gut and clean out the squad. Their is already maybe 7/8 leaving this summer alone, never mind anyone getting sold on, and the incoming first team players, and who ever is staying they are literally playing for their futures, their will be barely any players who have any sort of clout at the moment to hold any power over the manager, not from the club or the fans.


That is how management goes, he will from day one have shown the squad who's the boss.



The same repeated stuff about this team and sqaud will have him ruined in a short time is also lazy thinking for obvious reasons, and totally negative thinking.
 
Not a lazy way of thinking, their is literally a new manager coming In to literally gut and clean out the squad. Their is already maybe 7/8 leaving this summer alone, never mind anyone getting sold on, and the incoming first team players, and who ever is staying they are literally playing for their futures, their will be barely any players who have any sort of clout at the moment to hold any power over the manager, not from the club or the fans.


That is how management goes, he will from day one have shown the squad who's the boss.



The same repeated stuff about this team and sqaud will have him ruined in a short time is also lazy thinking for obvious reasons, and totally negative thinking.
What is the bolded on about? "Will have him ruined". Sheesh take it easy on the self righteousness, we're actually saying the same thing, that ETH will bring discipline and clean out the team of bad attitudes and entitlement, at least that's what I'm getting at. I don't know where you deduced that as saying he wouldn't be able to overcome it. Also the players leaving aren't the only problems at the club so the scope of the clean up doesn't end at a couple outgoings
 
The winter transfer window is going to be crazy because of the World Cup
 
Fortunately many of our fans are intelligent and will see that while we have been of the wrong path since SAF retired, we are now stumbling belatedly onto the right one.

I will accept that we were previously on a path which did not yield the right results. Nobody can argue against that.
But to say that ETH is absolutely the right path - we'll have to wait 1-2 years before we can assess that. If he turns out to be like LVG, with high possession, boring, side to side football, then that will be another step back for us.

In many fans' minds, ETH is the 2nd coming of Christ. I want to remind people that he has no experience of managing a big club with big payers and big egos, There is no guarantee that he'll do well here, but we have to give him a chance.
I also want to remind people that Ajax fans voted on a poll and most of them either wanted him sacked or wanted to wait till the end of the season to sack him.

His success here is not a formality and he may fail, just as other high profile/experienced managers have.
 
When does he actually take over, how I wish we could at least have him in the crowd at Palace
 
It's nice to see ETH is briefing the media daily about his detailed plans for the squad. We already know by now who the core group will be, the players he's planning to give a second chance, who we're going to sell, and few of the players we're going to buy.
 
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