oh for fecks sake, one more down
It's going to be Gareth fecking Southgate isn't it?
That is European Championship winner Sir Gareth Southgate you are talking about.
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That is European Championship winner Sir Gareth Southgate you are talking about.
Frank would be as underwhelming as Southgate, I think ETH will stay.
Not suggesting we should. Just looking at where INEOS might run to next, and who the potential candidates could be.
Bunch of amateurs. Burning away precious days after finishing 8th!!!
Great, getting even thinner!
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Imagine Sir Gareth turning us down. Whilst there will be many over the moon, it soon turn to outrage that he had the cheek to turn us down.
Waiting to see how far England get in the Euros.
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Down to Southgate and Frank now?
That might very well happen and i'd still be skeptical. International football is a different beast. Can you imagine though if he has a bad tournament and they still want to appointment him? Making a hard sell even more difficult: "He got to the quarter finals, what more do you want"
It's so clear what's happening now (for me at least).
They want a manager who can be held accountable but whom won't expect them to held accountable on their side. Someone who can accept the top down status quo without any healthy challenge. No manager worth their salt will accept that, which explains an admiration for Southgate.
They want a manager who can be held accountable but whom won't expect them to held accountable on their side. Someone who can accept the top down status quo without any healthy challenge. No manager worth their salt will accept that, which explains an admiration for Southgate.
So he can be underwhelming too? Yeah, why not.
Never said he should just that I think he will.
I think they simply haven’t agreed upon a contract (and possibly a fee) with their choice. If they were committed to ETH they would have said so days ago. ETH is obviously a dead man walking.
Forever a circus it seems
Something doesn’t smell right here. Turning down experienced managers - for what reason? Lack of money, not fitting to the INEOS vision (whatever that is). Got to be very difficult for them to keep EtH surely, after they have completely undermined him. This is making the Southgate links even more bloody credible I’m afraid.
Its not a fee agreement for sure, they thought (somewhat stupidly) they can get a good coach who is submissive. They realised they can't and are scrambling.
Of course. Think you maybe right.
ETH will end up staying and they’ve made him look like a fecking idiot in the process. What a mess.
Perhaps. And maybe they think Southgate is the man.
And maybe they don’t have a clue what they’re doing. I mean Southgate points to that. They’re just waiting and praying England get knocked out of the group stages so they can press on with things.
What on earth can southy possibly say or prove to make him a better selection than these far superior and more successful managers? It has to be eth.
In a real world this is what should happen. But I think it’s gone way too far for this to even be a possibility now. Theirs no way out of this for them to be able to keep ETH. They’ve treated him so bad the last few weeks and the relationships already broken so how could he even carry on in this environment? The trust is gone. If they wanted to keep him then they should have made a statement right after the FA cup final that said they had belief in him that he could turn it around in the following season.
Skinflint INEOS could try a BOGOF with Newcastle - Dan Ashworth plus Eddie Howe. Wouldn’t put it past them!
Wouldn't blame him if he just turns around and tells Sir Jim to fix this, and just walks.
Be surprised if he’s not already got his legal advisers on the case
I hope one day we become a serious club, run with decisiveness, efficency and ambition
There really is nothing wrong with thinking;
“I don’t think this employee is as good at his job as I need him to be”
Then looking to replace him. Then after finding nobody better, deciding to take 6-12 months to find that person.
EtH is a very good manager. He’s fallen short of expectations after a solid start. If we switched year one with year two it would all feel better.
But he’s really not going to be replaced by someone better right now. Keeping him on for another 12 months while we hire a football structure, isn’t some disaster for the club.
You think they'd hire a guy who got dumped out the group stages?
Ineos are not inspiring any confidence whatsoever. If they really are about to hire Gareth Southgate they will lose the confidence of the fans in an instant and probably won't get it back. Just fecking keep Ten Hag at this point.
Answer that question yourself. Mate they’re going after a guy that hasn’t managed a club team in like 15 years and hasn’t won anything with England for 8 years. So if there still targeting him after that then my answer would be yes.
This is getting fecking out of control now. Looks like INEOS have adopted the glazer decisiveness of doing absolutely nothing. The more things change the more they stay the same.
Baffling that this end of season review wasn't conducted months ago. Whether EtH stays or goes shouldn't (and probably won't) come down to the FA Cup result. The decision should have been made public the day after the match allowing a new manager to settle in or EtH to begin preparations for the new season. We're in a total limbo now. It's a bad look and poor planning from INEOS. Very disappointing.
Says you. I dont think they're going for Southgate. It's been exaggerated.
Who are they going for then? The list is being whittled away, apparently. They clearly don’t think EtH is the man, so who is?
oh well I guess we have another decade of horseshit to look forward to
John Cross from the Mirror has said we're not after Sir Gareth.
This is precisely the reason we have been so far below standards since SAF retired.
Leadership vacuum. Nobody has full authority. Also, I don’t think anyone knows 100% what the actual direction of the footballing side of the operation is going to be. I think that includes Sir Jim and the Glazers. Scary thought considering this is how we landed in 8th with a negative goal difference. ETH left to his own devices is a good way to remain mediocre.
With all due respect mate, no one in the Caf, including you, knows what the feck is going on.
We have no idea why Tuchel wasn’t a match. Money? Contract length? Control of transfers? Coaching staff issues? Philosophy differences? Punitive contract clauses if we don’t make the CL?
Nobody. fecking. Knows.
Everything is just speculation.
I will say this. I am 100% Ten Hag out, but the way they have flirted with other managers and been non committal on Ten Hag’s future is fecking chickenshit. It reeks of corporate bureaucracy, decisions made in a boardroom with fecking PowerPoint presentations from a goddamn management consultant. Grow some balls Ratcliffe, stop being such a douchebag.
Always been a fan of the Cross
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