If ETH was staying they would have come out with a statement already. The fact that it's lingering on this long means they're not convinced he's the one they want going into next season. Maybe they're still vetting replacements. Maybe they end up keeping him because the available replacements are not who they want at this point in time. Either way, it doesn't look good for ETH going forward.
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‘Ezza’ said the review was over and they were preparing for next season. He did not say that he didn’t know whether he would be here next season.
The media should be mostly ignored except for credible reports of other managers being sounded out and so on.
Likewise the ‘Ten Hag out’ culttists should be ignored because they do not reflect the amount of support Ten Hag still has. Polls are something like 80% pro Ten Hag on average.
It’s likely Ten Hag hasn’t been told there is a discussion going on about his future and he is planning to continue to prepare for next season. In any case, it is disrespectful and unprofessional behaviour by the club to leave things in limbo like this.
In my view they have two choices: give him his payout or confirm him staying. A contract extension is not needed or deserved; he has to earn it by turning the tide first.
We will see whether INEOS is up to the task of running this club very soon.
Are any other clubs currently going through an 'end of season review' and contemplating whether to sack their heavily underperforming manager or not?
Doubt it mate. Just ours that takes 3 months to make decisions. Look at Chelsea for example, sacked pochettino then hired someone a week later. Barca have a manager, Bayern have their manager. All the top teams that needed new managers have got one.
Perhaps an example where the manager is actually still in post? You have literally demonstrated why they wouldn't do it - it means nothing. A great example.
I think you are naive, as I said. Thats pretty much all I can say about the rest of your post. You call me ignorant for apparently not knowing how the world works, by proceeding to demonstrate why you don't.
But hey, lets believe everything we read in the press. Congratulations to Southgate for becoming our new manager.
You're calling a poster Naïve and Ignorant yet believing everything printed in the press, no mirrors in your house?
https://www.skysports.com/football/...at-potential-stay-at-old-trafford-next-season
This is why any statement from the club would be a waste on the EtH out crowd anyway. You'd only ignore it.
What part of his statement did he confirm the owners have told him he’s staying for next season?
Point it out. I promise I won’t ignore it.
The fact they still havent released one 2 weeks after the season ended is a clear indication that he is gone
I don't think anyone knows I've seen posts saying the long wait means he's starting and the long wait means he's gone.
Looks like nothing will happen until he finishes his holidays whenever that will be.
If he is sacked i hope they have got his replacement sorted in this time and have already made their recruitment plans rather than just start from scratch again
Interesting because if you read the article it alludes: "asked if he has been given assurances that he will remain in charge at Old Trafford next season, Ten Hag then said: "It's not necessary. We go for next season."
This has nothing to do with fans being Erik in or out it's if the club have provided a definitive stance behind the managers tenure and future and they haven't.
“I don’t know [if I’ll be here next season]. The only thing I am doing is preparing, developing and progressing my team.
“This for me is a project.
“When I came in, it was a mess. We are now better.
“But we are by far not where we want to be.”
They've not given any support even once, in months of being here. Quite the opposite, in fact. The way SJR thanked everybody for the FA Cup apart from our manager, speaks volumes. If you want to put your fingers in you ears and pretend it's all made up then fine. But I believe they would have briefed even one journalist, even just one time at any point since December, that they believe Ten Hag is the man to take us forward.
And they are.
I dont believe anything that football journalists print. If you cant tell the difference between blanket reporting about things the club have obviously briefed, and uninformed crap from Jamie Jackson, Neil Custis or whoever, that's your problem.
When Kavah is on sky sports saying he's heard from ETH's camp that even 2 weeks later he doesnt know if he has a job to go back to, he's not pulling that out of thin air.
No and to be honest I can’t recall it ever happening before either.
More clown show bollocks from our club, new regime or not.
I am Ten Hag out but am not a culttist. I want him out not because I have an irrational hatred for him but because the club comes first. I believe managers should be supported but only if they perform. After all they are employees and are dispensable,just like players. I have watched the games and listened to his interviews afterwards, I know there were injuries and other issues but I have come to the conclusion that he is clueless and will not take the club anywhere especially in terms of league position. Others have a contrary opinion and I respect it. As for the opinion polls, I hope that the powers-that-be will make the sack or retain decision solely based on performance data just like other business organizations do.
It is beneficial to appreciate opposing views without getting too emotional about it. If he is retained my world will not end and I will be perfectly ok with it. It is also perfectly alright to ignore me if you think I am a Ten Hag out culttist. Finally,in my humble view most of the arguments presented by the 'Ten Hag in' crowd are just an attempt to justify failure (where all the damning negative data is downplayed) and perpetuate the culture of mediocrity that has persisted since Fergie left. Once they are presented with hard cold data they resort to histrionics instead of offering persuasive counterarguments.
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Why do you people belive all the bs in the media? For me it's clear as day that they haven't got a clue thats why all those bs stories come out. Complete clowns the lot.
Perhaps you missed the bit before that:
Asked if talks are planned for next week surrounding his future, Ten Hag said: "No, we already did that. Sunday, I go on holiday. I think I deserved it."
A bit like the example someone gave with Steve Cooper? Prime example as to why they won't.
Has anyone inside the club ever said that the managers position is being reviewed? Are we simply falling for a collective media narrated bollocks?
Please don't skip the next eye-exam with a qualified doctor
EtH said himself it has been done, but of course we ignore that bit.
Are they only the worst kind because they aren't doing exactly what you want them to do
Then it's a contradiction, he's making conflicting statements both in the article posted and a few days later he asserts that he doesn't know if the cup final was his last game.
Two things are clear:
1. The club haven't reaffirmed the managers position
2. The manager by his own admission has a large degree of uncertainty.
"end up" pal, I didn't see they were, i'm saying if they end up failing which is just as much a possibility as them being successful, juries still out.
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I am getting convinced, they won't make announcement until the end of Euros and will continue pretending it is business as usual, until July 15th and maybe even a little beyond
And then they will have audacity to sack EtH in the middle of the summer, as if it is totally normal.
Where do you see "football people"? We have neither director of football, nor the new CEO, and the only person in the room who knows football is Blanc, and reportedly he wants to keep EtH but is getting overruled
Not to mention that our incoming director of football is an overhyped clown that appointed Southgate during his time at FA, a horrible appointment that very likely has cost England trophies during the time when it has one of the most talented squads in its entire history
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How can this in anyway be compared with what happened in Steve Coopers case? this is Man Utd the biggest club in the country, if the managers future is being discussed heavilly in the media they they absolutely have to release a statement clarifying what is and isnt happening.
Well yes they might but judging them after this amount of time is just silly, and it's not all going to be an upward curve progress is not as linear as some would have you believe
You literally just wrote out everything they have printed in the last month or so....
Is this the same Kavah that was claiming EtH had lost the dressing room in December?
They absolutely do not. That’s a bizarre leap of logic.
Its no different. Its exactly the kind of thing people are calling for and thats a prime example as why they won't, because it means nothing.
They absolutely do need to release a statement whether he is staying or not but they havent yet because he has gone and they are waiting for him to return from holiday to announce it.
best post of the day. Nothing says I believe everything I read more than this.You forgot to add before announcing Southgate as our next manager though....
I do like how Ineos is making every journalist and itk scramble and prove they don’t know anything. Through out this week one of them would come out to say “todays the day”
Ineos have gaslit me into hoping he stays with the Southgate links, well played.
Silence is an option if the club doesn't care about having a healthy atmosphere around players, coaches and the manager.
Current situation at United:
Journalist: will Ten Hag be United manager next season?
Club: no comments.
You think this can continue indefinitely without affecting the football side?
Owners need to move one way or another. I am certain ETH will go so I'm not too bothered about no decision yet.
We get a new crap coach keep the same crap players. Fans demand a clear playing style.
Only one choice then.
New song for next season
OHH LETS PARK THE BUS LA LALA LALA ........
Only one choice then.
New song for next season
OHH LETS PARK THE BUS LA LALA LALA ........
Asked if talks are planned for next week surrounding his future, Ten Hag said: "No, we already did that. Sunday, I go on holiday. I think I deserved it."
Asked if he has been given assurances that he will remain in charge at Old Trafford next season, Ten Hag then said: "It's not necessary. We go for next season."
Is more like it.
So the solution is to retain the old crap coach?
You think the new owners just watched the club have their worst domestic and european campaigns in 4 decades and haven't for one second questioned whether or not they should replace the manager who presided over that?
There are good arguments on both sides, but the ‘Ten Hag out’ cultists ignore all arguments in favour. None of the ‘Ten Hag in’ posters do this, no one ignores the bad stuff.
The fans have a more balanced view and that is why there is overwhelming support for not sacking Ten Hag right now.
The hard cold data: two seasons two trophies.
If you are in favour of replacing Ten Hag based on league performance, I understand. How big do you think his role is in this failed season? How big a part do other factors play?
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