Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24

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I have have no idea how anyone would believe a 'breaking story' from the Brit press. No reason for the club to commit on the rags one bit.


Say what you want about the press but when there are multiple sources running that story it’s rare they’re wrong.
 
I dreamt that ten Hag and some of the boys were visiting me last night. I impressed upon him the need to stick with Amad.

Based on this he is staying.
 
Has the transfer window even opened yet? Are players flying off the shelves?

If the decision is to stick with ETH, they'll give him a new contract and announce it.
If the decision is to move on, they'll be lining up all the necessary steps to announce the new manager at the same time as ETH departure.

We live in a crazy, second-by-second world but in reality a week isn't goign to make any difference, and gives all the parties plenty of time to ensure good decisions are made.
You are naïve if you think deals aren't already being brokered by clubs, will not be long before they start actually announcing, transfer window is just for registering player, you can sign them whenever, it is not just players in we need to worry about we need to shift some players out, the manager we have and the style they use will have an influence on this.

I don't understand this idea that ETH will need to be given a new contract, I mean if it is announced he is staying it would be a joke IMO but to reward him with a contract extension would be more ridiculous that the man's tactics! there is no need to give a new contract unless at least part way through the year if it is going to happen, we have all seen the stuff about how much it would cost to sack ETH, why would INEOS seek to increase this whilst his future even if he does stay has to be very tenuous based on how we start the season!

The world we live in may be crazy? one thing for sure it is about perception and image, right now INEOS and Man Utd by extension are not looking great in the public eye, more than any other club we rely on selling our image, damaging our image is something which worries me
 
Let's face facts here, UTD sacked LVG straight after the FA Cup Final, there was no waiting & quite rightly so, EtH & his team's performances have been clear to see, "a review" lasting days or weeks should never have been needed, the fact he hasn't been fired yet means he will be Man Utd manager next season.
That was tastless doing it right after the win. And honestly, no manager would be successful with the injuries of the important first team players throughout the season.
 
I have to believe they are just sorting out his compensation and replacement properly before announcing it, because this would be absurd if he ended up staying now.
 
I'm definitely not saying sacking ETH is the only change that needs to be done. It still needs to be done and it needs to be done before preseason.
The difference between ETH now and Jose, Ole, LVG and even Moyes at the end of their reigns is that we are actually playing the worst football ever this time. At least the last 40 years.

There's zero indications that ETH will turn anyhing around, but we do know that this season we got worse at every measurable metric in football.

Go back have a look at posts at the end of all the tenure's, it was always, worst ever season, worst united team. I remember post Ole under Rangnick people saying we've hit rock bottom.
 
Come to think of it, the decision that will have the least meltdown would be Ten Hag staying because they couldn’t secure their number one target, Southgate
 
At this point he’s most likely to stay. If they wanted him gone it would have been done already. Just assume he’s staying and go about your week.

Honestly I want this to get resolved one way or the other so we can move on to transfer muppetry. No transfer business until we make a decision here it seems.
 
I guess it's just business as usual until the club comes out and says otherwise. Ten Hag stays, the club has transfer targets in the summer and we go again
 
Come to think of it, the decision that will have the least meltdown would be Ten Hag staying because they couldn’t secure their number one target, Southgate
There would still - rightfully - be a meltdown about the competence level of the decision-makers if it turned out their top target was Southgate.
 
So, I know this sounds like some bullshit story that Jay from the Inbetweeners would make up but I feel like it's my obligation to share this :lol: Steve Mclaren's dad had a round of golf with my dad in York this afternoon and, according to him, Ten Hag and his coaching staff have been asked to resign but they're not budging.

Also, less interesting news - Steve is planning to retire very soon anyway to spend more time playing golf.

My dad and his new 88 year old mate are planning on having another round of golf this weekend. More (hearsay) updates to follow.
 
Come to think of it, the decision that will have the least meltdown would be Ten Hag staying because they couldn’t secure their number one target, Southgate

To be fair announcing both at the same time would be a great way to manage the fanbase. Everyone would be celebrating, champagne everywhere and macarena dancing galore.
 
Say what you want about the press but when there are multiple sources running that story it’s rare they’re wrong.
Not really. It’s quite usual that one outlet, let’s say ‘Media A’, releases something like ‘based on a source it appears that Claim 1 is a fact.’ And then various other media outlet’s publish the story ‘based on a story in Media A, it could seem that Claim 1 is a fact. If so …. (bla,bla,bla endless hypothetical speculations). Then Media A continues with a follow up: ‘If endless speculations are true, we have confirmed that the allegations about Claim 1 seem to be well-founded’. Etc etc etc.

It often turns out that Claim 1 is a bit imprecise, somewhat off the mark, completely off the mark or wildly off the mark.
 
So, I know this sounds like some bullshit story that Jay from the Inbetweeners would make up but I feel like it's my obligation to share this :lol: Steve Mclaren's dad had a round of golf with my dad in York this afternoon and, according to him, Ten Hag and his coaching staff have been asked to resign but they're not budging.

Also, less interesting news - Steve is planning to retire very soon anyway to spend more time playing golf.

My dad and his new 88 year old mate are planning on having another round of golf this weekend. More (hearsay) updates to follow.

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Not really. It’s quite usual that one outlet, let’s say ‘Media A’, releases something like ‘based on a source it appears that Claim 1 is a fact.’ And then various other media outlet’s publish the story ‘based on a story in Media A, it could seem that Claim 1 is a fact. If so …. (bla,bla,bla endless hypothetical speculations). Then Media A continues with a follow up: ‘If endless speculations are true, we have confirmed that the allegations about Claim 1 seem to be well-founded’. Etc etc etc.

It often turns out that Claim 1 is a bit imprecise, somewhat off the mark, completely off the mark or wildly off the mark.

The story would have been shot down before it got to the point of multiple interviews and conferences we’re asking the manager if it was his last match. It’s weeks later there’s been no denial and they’ve been interviewing people for the man’s job it’s a fecking shambles as per usual
 
See I think that's our problem. Short term thinking. I would happily blow off next season and the one after if it meant we were building towards a return to the elite. Of course the word 'if' is doing a lot of work in that sentence.

Blowing off two more seasons would be a catastrophe for a club our size. I really think people underestimate the ramifications of it.

We really shouldn’t even miss out on top 4 majority of years regardless of who the manager is.
 
Good luck trying to sell Southgate to United fans. If it was a choice between the two 90% of fans would stick with EtH and i honestly don't think that would change if he won the Euros.

So the future is that City get to sponsor themselves 5 bazillion quid each year and Southgate is our manager.

:o
 
So, I know this sounds like some bullshit story that Jay from the Inbetweeners would make up but I feel like it's my obligation to share this :lol: Steve Mclaren's dad had a round of golf with my dad in York this afternoon and, according to him, Ten Hag and his coaching staff have been asked to resign but they're not budging.

Also, less interesting news - Steve is planning to retire very soon anyway to spend more time playing golf.

My dad and his new 88 year old mate are planning on having another round of golf this weekend. More (hearsay) updates to follow.
An old ex-aquaintance of mine allegedly has an opposum he jokingly has named ‘Sir Brailsford’, and a local veterinary assistant upon routinely assessing it’s exceements is said to have concluded that Ten Hag has been offered a bumper five year contract with increased responsibility for player identifications and also role in negotiations of fees. I have no idea who said this, but if more is said about the veterinary assistant, or if anyone even loosely mentions ‘excrements’, ‘dung’ or ‘One-man-midfield’, I’ll be sure to let you all in on it in several threads.

(Any similarity between this post and other posts in the real world, is just a wild coincidence, don’t believe it.)
 
I think if he was staying we would have announced it sooner. We have probably got a replacement lined up etc. now and it’ll be a quick changeover once we announce he’s leaving.
 
You're projecting a scenario that has little basis. He's had one solid year and one poor year. Youre assuming it suddenly alternates from there like a yoyo based on, well I dont know what. He doesn't really have a track record of doing that.

On the flip side you can argue tuchel will have a track record of blowing up in year two and we are left off in the same place.

No I'm simply posing a hypothetical that could see us wasting another 2 years and be in the exact same position we are now. Ten Hag himself says the goal next season is top 4 which is quite possible. As is another season like this one.

I think he was too stubborn too and I think that will get him sacked.
However your premise is based on an assumption that he won't learn from that, that he won't adapt to better owners above him, and he isn't suited to a game model as suggested by Wilcox. I find that far fetched.

It's based on his perfromances in his time at United to be fair. This season he clearly didn't learn despite his new system not working for the best part of 9 months. There was no reason he couldn't be adaptable when the Glazers were the sole owners last season.


Ok, that's your opinion, but it didn't happen and there a lot of reasons behind the scenes that may have made it more difficult.

It is my opinion, and I can't imagine there was anything going on behind the scenes that would have prevented him from changing the teams tactics. That is a decision well within his job description after all.
 
Good luck trying to sell Southgate to United fans. If it was a choice between the two 90% of fans would stick with EtH and i honestly don't think that would change if he won the Euros.

Agreed. I’m very much ETH out but Southgate should be nowhere near the running for the United job unless and until he has returned to club football and shown himself to be a top quality manager. I’ll regard him as a highly successful England manager if he wins the Euros but I still wouldn’t want him to jump straight to the United job.
 
An old ex-aquaintance of mine allegedly has an opposum he jokingly has named ‘Sir Brailsford’, and a local veterinary assistant upon routinely assessing it’s exceements is said to have concluded that Ten Hag has been offered a bumper five year contract with increased responsibility for player identifications and also role in negotiations of fees. I have no idea who said this, but if more is said about the veterinary assistant, or if anyone even loosely mentions ‘excrements’, ‘dung’ or ‘One-man-midfield’, I’ll be sure to let you all in on it in several threads.

(Any similarity between this post and other posts in the real world, is just a wild coincidence, don’t believe it.)
Are you not satisfied with my tier 1 journalism?!?!

I am absolutely positive that there was no conjecture to his stories at all, as Mclaren's dad also reliably informed my dad that Stevo wasn't allowed to have much influence on United's tactics until... (you guessed it) 3 games ago. My response to this seemingly airtight information was "Oh I'm sure his son had no say whatsoever in the 7-0 at Anfield but was responsible for masterminding the win over City". Good thing I'm too shit at golf to ruin my dad's new friendship with Mclaren Sr.
 
Genuine question to those who want to keep ETH; if the worst league performance in over 30 years is not enough to get sacked then what is?
 
I mean, in one sense I have to hand to you, you're fecking relentless and that takes real dedication.

I hope you can make peace with whatever the outcome is, I truly do.

I have almost come to terms with the fact he will be here for a long, long time regardless of results, so I’m prepared.
 
Blowing off two more seasons would be a catastrophe for a club our size. I really think people underestimate the ramifications of it.

We really shouldn’t even miss out on top 4 majority of years regardless of who the manager is.

We've just blown off over a decade by feking about humouring Glazer bullshit
 
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