Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24

[pocco]

«The prices paid for players are indeed very high - but I am not responsible for that. The club did all the negotiations, including with very good potential players who didn't come in the end.»

Wow, how awful.

Potential very good players:

De Jong - Didn't want to come.
Arnautovic - Fans put a stop to it thankfully.
Brobbey - Chose Ajax thankfully.
Gakpo - Not been impressed at all, thankfully he's Liverpools problem.
Timber - Got lucky maybe as Martinez, our backup option, is probably better. Why ETH preferred Timber I don't know.

 

[Amarsdd]

If he’s saying that he’s not responsible for negotiating the transfer fees, then what’s so controversial about that? Seems more like Daily Mail using clickbait rage as per usual.

Its technically true, but I think its a bit disingenuous. If you keep insisting on a player even when the fees are unreasonably high, then you are somewhat accountable. Unless you think ETH was completely out of the loop during negotiations and only knew of the fees when the signing was completed? then ok

 

[SouthMancRed]

Obviously announcing it during the CL Final when nobody's looking.

 

[Marcelinho87]

A nothing tweet from someone who has no idea.

It's come from Romano who said it via YouTube.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

A nothing tweet from someone who has no idea.

I would say you are correct

 

[FerociousCorgis]

If they keep him our descent into being a midtable club is here fully. Who cares how shit we look for the entire year as long as we have a lucky cup run right

 

[saivet]

WOW, the nerve

The headline and the quote is misleading. ETH is referring to the price paid. He's right, he can say he wanted Antony but he wasn't the one saying we should pay £90m. Ultimately he probably doesn't really care about the value and just making sure he gets his target.

 

[Big Ben Foster]

The headline and the quote is misleading. ETH is referring to the price paid. He's right, he can say he wanted Antony but he wasn't the one saying we should pay £90m. Ultimately he probably doesn't really care about the value and just making sure he gets his target.

Sure, but he had to have known we were going to spend that much and yet he did nothing to object to it.

 

[HookedOnAPhelan]

If they keep him our descent into being a midtable club is here fully. Who cares how shit we look for the entire year as long as we have a lucky cup run right

Yeah, fuming here mate. Reminds me of the 80’s when we hired that Scottish loser. We were a top 4 team in all the previous 5 seasons before he came, and he took us to 11th, 2nd, 11t, 13th and 6th in his first 5 seasons, but had a couple of lucky cup runs so some people still defended him. Madness.

 

[Lyng]

Regardless of what happens. Just not Tuchal if it's a new manager.

Who is that?

 

[BenitoSTARR]

@TrebleChamp99 have you had any updates since let’s say Monday evening? I’m pretty sure he was sacked then according to your reports so any news on the replacement?

 

[Von Mistelroum]

If only we had standard-raisers like you in charge.

Thank you!

 

[FerociousCorgis]

Yeah, fuming here mate. Reminds me of the 80’s when we hired that Scottish loser. We were a top 4 team in all the previous 5 seasons before he came, and he took us to 11th, 2nd, 11t, 13th and 6th in his first 5 seasons, but had a couple of lucky cup runs so some people still defended him. Madness.

And here comes the other problem, people stuck in the 80s. Things aren't the same anymore people we can't keep longing for the SAF glory days

 

[Big Ben Foster]

Yeah, fuming here mate. Reminds me of the 80’s when we hired that Scottish loser. We were a top 4 team in all the previous 5 seasons before he came, and he took us to 11th, 2nd, 11t, 13th and 6th in his first 5 seasons, but had a couple of lucky cup runs so some people still defended him. Madness.

ETH is not Fergie.
How many times does this need to be repeated in here?

 

[JPRouve]

Yeah, fuming here mate. Reminds me of the 80’s when we hired that Scottish loser. We were a top 4 team in all the previous 5 seasons before he came, and he took us to 11th, 2nd, 11t, 13th and 6th in his first 5 seasons, but had a couple of lucky cup runs so some people still defended him. Madness.

I can't help but continuously take this as an insult toward SAF.

 

[Leftback99]

It's come from Romano who said it via YouTube.

Yes

 

[VP89]

@TrebleChamp99 have you had any updates since let’s say Monday evening? I’m pretty sure he was sacked then according to your reports so any news on the replacement?

He said he's staying and then ranted about something else.

 

[FerociousCorgis]

ETH is not Fergie.
How many times does this need to be repeated in here?

It doesn't matter apparently man. Let's just ignore the fact that it also is a different world out there than the 80s

 

[Amir]

Sure, but he had to have known we were going to spend that much and yet he did nothing to object to it.

Why should he object?

If he wanted Antony at United I'm pretty sure he saw him as a potentially big player for us and himself, rather than a cheap squad player. We were lacking on the wing.

ETH is not at fault in any way for how much we paid for Antony. He's at fault for grossly misjudging Antony's ability and wanting him at all.

 

[JPRouve]

Why should he object?

If he wanted Antony at United I'm pretty sure he saw him as a potentially big player for us and himself, rather than a cheap squad player. We were lacking on the wing.

ETH is not at fault in any way for how much we paid for Antony. He's at fault for grossly misjudging Antony's ability and wanting him at all.

Unless he wasn't aware of the fee, that implies that he agreed with the valuation?

 

[pocco]

@TrebleChamp99 have you had any updates since let’s say Monday evening? I’m pretty sure he was sacked then according to your reports so any news on the replacement?

Last update was staying for now but we want Southgate. I'm thinking he's either full of it or somebody is having him on. Slight chance he's right and we want Southgate, which is terrifying.

 

[SirAF]

Bloody hell, get it done already. It's June!

 

[USREDEVIL]

Preparing to make a bid ! Exciting times

 

[hobbers]

We're still reviewing the preparation of the end of season review before we kick off with the review proper.

And then of course there's the mid-review review, where we have to figure out if the review is meeting its intended targets and is going to finish on time.

 

[Redstain]

No idea why it's taken so long, get the decision out the way so the club can adequately plan for the summer.

 

[saivet]

Sure, but he had to have known we were going to spend that much and yet he did nothing to object to it.

That's a fair criticism but I don't think ETH cares as his role isn't there to ensure there is value for money.

 

[Big Ben Foster]

Why should he object?

If he wanted Antony at United I'm pretty sure he saw him as a potentially big player for us and himself, rather than a cheap squad player. We were lacking on the wing.

ETH is not at fault in any way for how much we paid for Antony. He's at fault for grossly misjudging Antony's ability and wanting him at all.

Because if he lives in the real world, he will realize that budget constraints exist and that every pound spent on one player is a pound that can't be spent on another player.

 

[Florida Man]

Its technically true, but I think its a bit disingenuous. If you keep insisting on a player even when the fees are unreasonably high, then you are somewhat accountable. Unless you think ETH was completely out of the loop during negotiations and only knew of the fees when the signing was completed? then ok

Yes, how he utilizes a player and tactical setup is his responsibility. But because it’s a Daily Mail clickbait, I think it’s all a storm in a teacup with their lazy journalism.

 

[JPRouve]

That's a fair criticism but I don't think ETH cares as his role isn't there to ensure there is value for money.

But that's short sided because better value for money means more positions improved which makes his job easier.

 

[stevoc]

Why are you so sure Eriksen wasn't a club transfer?I agree Kane probably wasn't going to happen given how much we had to spend but it's been well reported he was EtH's first choice and as I said, to go from that profile of player to Hojlund doesn't make any sense from EtH's perspective.

I have done some more reading and it seems that EtH chose Hojlund out of several options including Kolo Muani and some others that were provided to him by the club. So I'm not sure if that makes him a club signing or an EtH signing. A bit of both I guess.

Eriksen just doesn't seem like a club signing to me. We signed older player under Ed, but usually big names. We know Ten Hag really pushed for FDJ, when we signed Eriksen I'm sure it was reported that Ten Hag pushed for him as well.

He was an able backup/rotation option for Frenkie. And having been brought through in Holland with Ajax he would be familiar with the tactics/styles of play Ten Hag wanted to implement.

On Hojlund fair enough.

 

[Grylte]

It makes sense that he's leaving.
Sure, the FA cup win makes it a discussion they need to have, but the season has not been good enough.
INEOS are making changes all over the place in the club, it doesn't make sense to let the manager stay after this season if you're trying to fix the club.
They want to get their people in the important positions, and manager is arguably the most important position at a club.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

@TrebleChamp99 have you had any updates since let’s say Monday evening? I’m pretty sure he was sacked then according to your reports so any news on the replacement?

The decision was done for him to be sacked and it was irreversible and already settled. Then the next day he was staying

 

[CallyRed]

We are considering making a final decision in the upcoming hours

 

[UnrelatedPsuedo]

Potential very good players:

De Jong - Didn't want to come.
Arnautovic - Fans put a stop to it thankfully.
Brobbey - Chose Ajax thankfully.
Gakpo - Not been impressed at all, thankfully he's Liverpools problem.
Timber - Got lucky maybe as Martinez, our backup option, is probably better. Why ETH preferred Timber I don't know.

Timber is brilliant to be fair. I haven’t seen him enough to suggest I’d rather him than Martinez as the fella is almost immediately one of my favourite players. But Timber is great. Will be huge for Arsenal next year.

 

[pocco]

Timber is brilliant to be fair. I haven’t seen him enough to suggest I’d rather him than Martinez as the fella is almost immediately one of my favourite players. But Timber is great. Will be huge for Arsenal next year.

He's a different type of player though, with Martinez being the better at distribution from the back. Which is something that ETH has said is critical to his football. What would he have done if he got his first choice in Timber?

 

[daveskimufc]

He's staying isn't he.....
Needs some better excuses next season.
And our play needs to be more than "oooh they missed, quick let's break!"

 

[iato89]

He's staying isn't he.....
Needs some better excuses next season.
And our play needs to be more than "oooh they missed, quick let's break!"

I think if that was the case the wouldnt have dragged it this long

 

[Atheist]

I love posts like this. They’re so clever.

Thank you, how could I survive without your complements?

 

[Insanity]

Last update was staying for now but we want Southgate. I'm thinking he's either full of it or somebody is having him on. Slight chance he's right and we want Southgate, which is terrifying.

He is a bluffer. Spouted what seemed the most obvious then. Think he also hinted in one of the posts that it would be Mckenna and then the next day it was announced Mckenna was extending with Ipswich.

 

[Glorio]

That's a fair criticism but I don't think ETH cares as his role isn't there to ensure there is value for money.

Surely he should care? As the money spent on one player has an impact on funds available for squad building