Its pretty clear there is a connection. Why else would Brent be so desperate for Ten Hag to stay?
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Its pretty clear there is a connection. Why else would Brent be so desperate for Ten Hag to stay?
Hojlund was represented by Ten Hag's agent. So there's a connection there.
Ahh yes. I remember when he worked with Hojlund in the 90s.
Go and read through the amrabat performance threat throughout the season, he got chances and played poor/didn’t take them. He has definitely come into form towards the end of the season and stood up to be counted. My point is imagine he hit the ground running from the start? He didn’t though so hindsight is a wonderful thing, it happens.
two years isn’t enough. It really isn’t. Another season, his contract will be up and then you can make that decision. He’s still won us trophies. The first in 6 years remember.
Mason Mount was injured most the season so never got to really show what he can do. He is versatile and could have give us multiple options. Injuries didn’t allow for it. No ones fault
A very tough season which still ended ina trophy.
I have seen this alot on Youtube and Twitter. "We are Manutd, we should settle for xyz". That time I think, do you think Leeds and Forest fans think... they should be challenging for titles because they are a big club? No, you have to understand where you are.
Chelsea are the best example in my opinion, under Roman they had a structure, new man comes in and thinks he knows the best. Look how thats gone, the managers cannot do anything. That is 2 years of Chelsea's ownership, this is happening at United for 11 years.
I agree, the scrutiny that a Manchester United manager comes under is more than any other manager.
SJR said, when the club keeps failing under various managers, it cant be just the manager's fault can it? which is why the whole structure above the manager is replaced.
The same reason that majority of our fans wants him to stay. It doesn't mean all those fans are sponsored by Ten Hag
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I hope this isn't true. We can't afford another summer where we let every other club get a head start on transfers.
Højlund joined SEG to go to MU.
Please read my post properly. I said 'he recommended'. And I have no much problem with the others because of the money spent. Also Ronaldo,Maguire and the others preceded Ten Hag so I don't know why you mention them except maybe as a diversionary tactic. My main issue was the Anthony transfer.There would be no issue if he was bought for something like 15 or 20 million given his limited talent. I find the suggestion on caf that Ten Hag was unaware of the figures quoted during the negotiations preposterous. And as for the old 'structure' chestnut-if a manager knows there is no structure they can decline to apply for the job.This is why some managers such as Klopp were not too keen. Actually,Ten Hag accepted the job because there was no structure and he could control things like transfers.He said it himself.
Was going to post this but couldn't find the tweet, it's a prime example of INEOS reluctance to act sooner.
Reflects badly on putting the present manager in a state of uncertainty and doesn't allow the club to formulate plans cohesively.
Pretty much this. And TBH I've had had no issue with not doing possession oriented playstyle if what he was implementing for 90% of this season wasn't obviously nonsense.
I wouldn't put it past Luckhurst to fabricate his own negative fan feelings into fake news
It's almost a full week since our Fa Cup win. It was great feeling and another example why trophies matter so much (especially beating best team in country and Europe still). However, after a few days you kinda mostly forget about it because there's that coming back to reality which says we finished 8th in the league with negative goal difference. Which doesn't fill you with confidence for next season which is 2 months away.
If those making the decision believe injuries played crucial part in our season, then announce the decision and keep ten Hag giving him until October/November. If not, sack him by the end of this week or at least first part of next week (so around/by 5th June). Dragging it longer than early June would be too long.
Poll now says 51% favour keeping ten Hag (was only 28% before Cup final). My vote is still 'No' but at this point would just want to know the decision and wouldn't be that disappointed if he stays either.
If those making the decision believe injuries played crucial part in our season, then announce the decision and keep ten Hag giving him until October/November. If not, sack him by the end of this week or at least first part of next week (so around/by 5th June). Dragging it longer than early June would be too long.
Poll now says 51% favour keeping ten Hag (was only 28% before Cup final). My vote is still 'No' but at this point would just want to know the decision and wouldn't be that disappointed if he stays either.
Why should that be necessary? If we wanted him why should his agency matter to the club.
That's what doesn't make sense about the tweet. I thought we were moving to a system where the manager had less influence over transfers and most of the decisions would be made by the new hierarchy.
Will Ten Hag and his agency want to give up recruitment control? That might be the real reason Ineos want to sack him.
Could it be the case that we can't announce a decision until a certain date?
Like say if we are to appoint someone say Di Zerbi, Poch or Tuchel that they have agreed to leave their current jobs by mutual agreement that they are to finish up say 1st June (Tomorrow) could be in the agreement that after that date we can announce something??
Like say if we are to appoint someone say Di Zerbi, Poch or Tuchel that they have agreed to leave their current jobs by mutual agreement that they are to finish up say 1st June (Tomorrow) could be in the agreement that after that date we can announce something??
It's Luckhurst. Take it with a grain of salt.
Nothing would get me jumping on Erik train quicker
It's Samuel Luckhurst so I'll put this in my little box of BS. He along with other poor journalists were banned from United Pressers by ETH earlier in the season iirc
That would be Murtough and Nick Cox. Maybe some credit to Nicky Butt too?
So a manager should get sacked for recommending a bad signing?
I wonder what you would have done to SAF for recommending Moyes to us.
Let’s compare the FA cup final with Arsenal’s last game against Man City.
Possession
Arsenal = 27,4 United = 26,4.
Corners
Arsenal 4-7(City) . United 1-7 (City)
xG
Arsenal 0.66 - 1.0 United 1.59 - 1.35
Shots
Arsenal 6-12. United 11-19
Shots on target .
Arsenal 2-1 United 3-3
Results
Arsenal 0-0 United 2-1
One conclusion I draw is that our stats in the final, with nearly all players available, is similar from a statistical viewpoint to Arsenals game against City. We were a little bit more potent in our counter attacks but Arteta’s defensive approach was a little bit more tighter than us.
This is not a comparison of the whole season or a suggestion that we’re as good as Arsenal, far from it, but in some specific matches we’re close at their level.
A couple of new quality players who fits right in our system, a little bit more depth in the squad and I wouldn’t immediately count us off. We need to find the right players in the summer, those who make a difference, but with a bit of luck…..
United forever!
Possession
Arsenal = 27,4 United = 26,4.
Corners
Arsenal 4-7(City) . United 1-7 (City)
xG
Arsenal 0.66 - 1.0 United 1.59 - 1.35
Shots
Arsenal 6-12. United 11-19
Shots on target .
Arsenal 2-1 United 3-3
Results
Arsenal 0-0 United 2-1
One conclusion I draw is that our stats in the final, with nearly all players available, is similar from a statistical viewpoint to Arsenals game against City. We were a little bit more potent in our counter attacks but Arteta’s defensive approach was a little bit more tighter than us.
This is not a comparison of the whole season or a suggestion that we’re as good as Arsenal, far from it, but in some specific matches we’re close at their level.
A couple of new quality players who fits right in our system, a little bit more depth in the squad and I wouldn’t immediately count us off. We need to find the right players in the summer, those who make a difference, but with a bit of luck…..
United forever!
Well he retired, so there's not exactly anything to do, is there?
He is part of the United board, should be be sacked ?
I would be prepared to be concerned then
Yeah whatever you feel about Erik's future that would just be utter chaos but could happen
I'm sure it is true.
We are run poorly and are reactive. We have no poor planning and every "move" we make seems to be done in panic.
If the management of this company were any good, they'd have made a decision on the manager within 24 hours of the FA Cup win.
It is shocking that we don't learn from our mistakes but make them repeatedly and make silly excuses for failure.
Mind you if he was staying why haven't they just announced it amongst all the positivity this week
He should be sacked for presiding over the worst season for United in PL history. Let us not even go to other things for now, especially his “ability” to judge how unsuitable the players he has already coached are to United and the PL.
He's on an advisory board with no real power. But no, he should not be "sacked".
The only input he should have is the type of players he needs to achieve the possession attacking style of football he wants to play. He tells them what he needs, they pick a few players at each position then maybe ask for his opinion.
Agreed.
New regime same problem. Cant be proactive.
I mean its quite simple really. Got Barrada, Claude, Ashworth, Cox, Brailsford etc... spent 5 months doing nothing.
Has a crap season, wait till FA Cup final, wins it against the odds and major panic, what do we do?
That is the same rhetoric that was written by many on this forum, last Summer. And the Summer before. And the Summer before that.
In fact every season many deluded fans say this type of thing: "If we can buy 2-3 quality players, we can compete for the league".
It is astounding that any sane person who knows anything about football would believe that.
From top to bottom we need a complete change. And by the looks of it, INEOS are slotting in and managing the club in a similar way to how the Glazers ran it.
At this moment in time, when the managerial decision should already have been made, the club are faffing around, in the exact way that the Glazers used to.
I want to remind people that when Ralf R said 3 years ago that the squad needs open heart surgery and needed players who arrive hungry for success (before their big contract) and needed a major structural change - he was fired.
Ronaldo demanded that players stand up and be counted. He wanted young players to learn from him. His standards were very high. They got rid of him, too.
The winning mentality is something that is missing from our squad. I know that Bruno has it, but beyond that, I'm not sure how many of our players have a genuine "win at all costs" attitude.
Did they hire Ed back?
Probably reached out to Branthwaite and asked him a couple of questions based on which he (Samuel) could make that claim.
This threat of Southgate looming over us is fecking hilarious. It's like telling a child they'll have to go their room if they misbehave.
He has always been among the first to ask for a managers sacking yet regardless of results he has been backing Ten Hag, to the point where anyone asking for him to be sacked in his community would get called all sorts of names.
US have never had much connections inside the club, suddenly they clearly get info and they get an exclusive with Rasmus. Someone who is with SEG as well.
Jesus Christ, do you even listen or you just read to respond. Let me try to say this slowly. When entering a summer window the football department is told how there is to spend before sales, please stay with me on this.
Knowing what they have the recruitment department including the manager and DOF discuss the positions they want to strengthen as a priority. They look at the players, the transfer pointman gets in touch with agents and they get informed on how much the club is likely to demand and the wage the player would accept. They formulate their own budget basing on the ceiling they got from the CEO.
In all this, for a man who demanded control of transfers, Ten Hag is supposed to know that if he spends 50m on Onana because he has let DDG go it would impact what the club can do in the market. Especially because we already spent outrageous figures the previous summer our budget can't be elastic. So by deciding to offload DDG he effectively denied himself another CB without selling Maguire.
The fact that we got to two finals, finished third and got to the quarters of the Europa means that DDG was still serviceable and therefore replacing him was not a priority. The fact that it was meant that we couldn't act decisively on other positions. Look at what Bayern had sacrifice to fund the signing of Kane. This is how the adult world works if you indulge yourself too much you lose out on other essentials.
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