Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24

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So which 4th choice manager will come in and make the difference then? I'm at the stage where I don't really care if ten Hag is sacked and can understand why he would be. I'm just not sure there is anyone out there we can get this summer who is going to be a major upgrade.
You talk like it would take so much to upgrade on Ten Hag. Half the managers in the PL right now would be upgrades. That's ten options already.
 
Everything he’s saying is massively contradicted by how we play and setup. I can’t take anything he says seriously at all.
I’m the same, it just sounds like he’s digging his heels in hoping people aren’t actually seeing what his team is producing on the pitch.
 
I’m the same, it just sounds like he’s digging his heels in hoping people aren’t actually seeing what his team is producing on the pitch.
In his pregame interview he said we dominated Liverpool throughout in the last game. Stress on "dominated" and then said something something xg.
 
Guy is just a bottler. Anthony deserved to start this game after just having his best performance in a United shirt.
 
In his pregame interview he said we dominated Liverpool throughout in the last game. Stress on "dominated" and then said something something xg.
Yeah, he’s just pretending now, it was a 50/50 game, we were awful for large parts. I read he said he doesn’t care about conceding the most shots at goal in the league. That worries me just as much!
 
Rashford over Mount, especially after the previous outing. Ten Hag Meritocracy :lol:

And that nonsense permeates too. Rewarding mediocrity will have chilling impact on young players too. They'll adopt and take on what they see.

The class of 92 grew up in the shadow of men who did their talking on the field. Youth prospects looking at us today will be looking to emulate those who shirk hard work and do their talking in self-pitying social media posts.
 
Do think there is merit in starting Rashford against Bradley . So don't blame him.
 
Do think there is merit in starting Rashford against Bradley . So don't blame him.

I said as much in the match day thread, even though in the bigger picture it’s not deserved.

But it’s up to Rashford to capitalise on that now. If he’s strolling around the pitch doing nothing then ETH is going to look like a moron.
 
Well, if it's the players or ETH doesn't matter. But ETH never value performances, and it's the reason I want him out.

I thought he had the grit to select squad based on performance, and he is the definition of insanity. Do the same shit and fail over and over. It's infuriating!
 
Better to put Garnacho against Bradley if anything

Yes, but Rashford is pretty crap on right. Guess both of our wingers now can keep their full backs on toes and Hojlund is handful for their central defenders.
 
I don’t know what situation people on here are waiting for. There isn’t ever going to be this perfect future where suddenly it’ll start raining class managers.

Who are these managers we should wait for?

So we waste a season and chunk of money to try to implement his system which we already know is crap and naive, because the ideal candidate hasn’t emerged yet?

I’d rather we hire an interim manager
I see no point in sticking with something that we already know doesn’t work, I would prefer to gamble on an unknown where there is at least some chance of success than a known flop.

Gambling on a unknown just doesn't appeal at all to me, I don't know who we should wait for tbh, but it's fairly clear there are no standout candidates right now, maybe if we were getting linked to Amorin or Naggelsman then it might be a bit exciting, but there are no links, and even then it's only the unknown that makes it exciting more than any confidence.

You talk about the system, but by all accounts Ineos are going to impose the style on the manager, and also take the transfers away from him, so if Ten Hag is open to this then things will undoubtly have to change, so he might as well stay even if it's classed as basically an interim.
 
Mainoo genuinely no clue who he should be marking at corners.

As if we needed any more proof that we dont train set pieces
 
9 shots in 25 minutes.

We CoNTroL ThE gAmES
We don’t even have anything to show for it on the attacking end, we somehow manage to be wide open whilst we have parked the bus. It’s a whole different level of incompetence.
 
Well, if it's the players or ETH doesn't matter. But ETH never value performances, and it's the reason I want him out.

I thought he had the grit to select squad based on performance, and he is the definition of insanity. Do the same shit and fail over and over. It's infuriating!
A lot of fans blame the players for poor performances and lack of motivation as if that's a phenomenon that occurs in isolation.

Yes, the players deserve a share of the blame, but ultimately there is no incentive to perform well. Favorites don't get dropped and good performances don't get rewarded with more playing time.
 
A lot of fans blame the players for poor performances and lack of motivation as if that's a phenomenon that occurs in isolation.

Yes, the players deserve a share of the blame, but ultimately there is no incentive to perform well. Favorites don't get dropped and good performances don't get rewarded with more playing time.

The fact that the manager doesn't have the processing power to differentiate between a good and a bad performance is missed. But then again, that's the majority of our fanbase as well.

Both are a match made in heaven.
 
There is only one thing worse than someone doing terribly performance and result wise and with so many traits of poor coaching throughout the team.

And that is someone doing the above while remaining “defiant”. You are doing shite mate, cut the big man bullshit and have a bit of humility.
 
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A lot of fans blame the players for poor performances and lack of motivation as if that's a phenomenon that occurs in isolation.

Yes, the players deserve a share of the blame, but ultimately there is no incentive to perform well. Favorites don't get dropped and good performances don't get rewarded with more playing time.
The consistent stick from all angles isn’t an incentive? What about having their salaries reduced by 25% for not qualifying for the CL? Let’s not make some shit up about people not caring when there’s absolutely more than enough incentive to go around.
 
The fact that the manager doesn't have the processing power to differentiate between a good and a bad performance is missed. But then again, that's the majority of our fanbase as well.

Both are a match made in heaven.
It's a vicious cycle too. If you're the United manager, you're better off just playing the same poor performers over and over, because the fans will just blame them for everything and absolve your shortcomings.
 
So you basically wait for a goal and then go in this thread to shit and repeat the same shit you said an hour ago :lol:

Are people wrong to be exasperated and want to have somewhere to vent? We are heading for the 18th loss of the season and nothing changes, so why should the opinions?
 
We don’t even have anything to show for it on the attacking end, we somehow manage to be wide open whilst we have parked the bus. It’s a whole different level of incompetence.

We're not parking the bus. We're parking the shuttle.
 
We've parked the reliant robin. Which is about as poised in a corner as Bruno on the ball..
 
No shots in 35 minutes but this clown will come out and say we dominated the first half
 
There is only thing worse than someone doing terribly performance and result wise and with so many traits of poor coaching throughout the team.

And that is someone doing the above while remaining “defiant”. You are doing shite mate, cut the big man bullshit and have a bit of humility.

That's the character flaw I have been referring. Misplaced pride, I suspect that it the reason why many managers double down on their mistakes or on decisions that aren't working, they refuse to admit to themselves and others that they were wrong at some point. I would have a lot more time for a manager that recognizes mistakes or shortcomings and actively tries to fix them. And that's generally what top managers do, there isn't a single top manager that has flawless seasons or every ideas working for him.
 
The fact that the manager doesn't have the processing power to differentiate between a good and a bad performance is missed. But then again, that's the majority of our fanbase as well.

Both are a match made in heaven.

Yes, it is so strange mentality. Not giving up and having belief.. why is that the case looking at our history? Munich, Busby, Fergie.. Why are we the only fanbase who doesn't boo and shit on the manager hoping it will turn things around.

Who are you even talking to? Fanbase here can't wait to get him sacked. If true fanbase, then it is the best away support in the country.

Have fun.
 
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