Not just annoying but condescending, making out they know more about football, that one guy I can’t think of his username, something like don’tmesswith has been insufferable. Now they start changing their mind and want to forget all that they said about them knowing more and having a fit team will change it all
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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Nobody at Ineos should need anything more than this graph to pull the plug on him.
If he's still here after Liverpool, Ineos will already be failing hard at running things.
I think there’s only so many times you can say “we weren’t good enough” & “we’ll do better next time” before people stop believing you. In fact, I think we hit that point around December.
The guys lost any semblance of control at this stage, and is just managing decline. Big Jim needs to take him out the back of old Trafford tomorrow morning and introduce him to the club shotgun. Put us all out of our misery.
I’m not talking about their perceived quality.
The post I quoted said “these players can’t keep getting away with it, season after season.” I just want to know which players they’re referring to because I keep seeing these “this team/these players have sacrificed one too many managers” posts and it’s a considerably different team to the one even the last manager had, so I’m quite confused
Surely you know by now that what is said in front of the cameras is not the same as what is said in the dressing room or on the training pitch.
I've watched the UEFA feed after a Liverpool match with Klopp fuming and then as soon as him and the interviewer were given a count from 5 his smile went up and there was a totally different atmosphere.
When reading anything in sports, be it an interview or a journalistic piece, you have to filter away a lot of shit to get any truth out of it.
Only Man Utd fans would still be debating whether a guy who has made us a laughing stock should be given more time.
Blind loyalty is not loyalty
Blind loyalty is not loyalty
He surely is gone this summer. Its only a 1 year pay off.
he’s abandoned the principles he was bought in for and we now play kick and rush lets face it. Yes he’s been let down by several of the players but hes carried on playing them. I’d rather have seen us play his way this year even if it meant seeing mainoo and mejbri(who was later loaned out) in midfield and the likes of diallo starting most weeks. I’d back him then despite results if I could see what we were trying and sympathise with the fact we lacked quality and ability in some positions.
instead we still see mctominay and rashford play most weeks.
his press conferences have become delusional - did he actually say tonight the quality of our football is really high or is someone trolling?
he has to go and so do several of the ‘big’ players we have. We’ve got nothing - squad is ass, manager is useless. INEOS surely cant be looking to let any of those issues hang over? Whats the point of trying to bring in new players this summer to waste away under this clueless prat?
he’s abandoned the principles he was bought in for and we now play kick and rush lets face it. Yes he’s been let down by several of the players but hes carried on playing them. I’d rather have seen us play his way this year even if it meant seeing mainoo and mejbri(who was later loaned out) in midfield and the likes of diallo starting most weeks. I’d back him then despite results if I could see what we were trying and sympathise with the fact we lacked quality and ability in some positions.
instead we still see mctominay and rashford play most weeks.
his press conferences have become delusional - did he actually say tonight the quality of our football is really high or is someone trolling?
he has to go and so do several of the ‘big’ players we have. We’ve got nothing - squad is ass, manager is useless. INEOS surely cant be looking to let any of those issues hang over? Whats the point of trying to bring in new players this summer to waste away under this clueless prat?
I think we’re just waiting for an announcement now in fairness.
Manchester United.
Wow. That name used to mean something.
We're Manchezter United on past glories, not now.
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I was watching the overlap show today and they were discussing moyes at United with Rio. Carragher said something interesting about Roy Hodgson at Liverpool and how he would say some stuff like how they played well against United in a loss which was just difficult to understand for anyone at the club. This guy is similar, he is out of his depth and just doesn’t get what United is. Manchester United are getting embarrassed every week and he is talking absolute gibberish
Him and Ajax deserve each other...
Same for the bloke in the recruitment department who signed off on giving them 100m for Antony
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If there was a game to sack him it was Brentford.
Do we think he’s getting the sack before Liverpool?
Do we think he’s getting the sack before Liverpool?
It's not a surprise is it? We've been shit for 12 months and it's easy to know the games we'll struggle in. Unfortunately these days we're all too predictable.
We'd get rinsed again the CL, it's right we're not holding on to a slim hope of 5th. We look like we're in CL form in the PL now, just giving up goals from winning positions. The calamity has to end, this is not serious football or a base to go from. From the opening games it's been a car crash.
My main concern now is that so many injuries (ETH must be one of the main reasons causing them) might have long lasting impact for the next few seasons.
Never thought I’d say this, but Moyes season was more exciting than this.
I don't get it at all. That spell last season World Cup - Carabao Cup we were doing everything right.
Maybe we ignored the signs before. The theme of getting ahead of ourselves and bottling and having a soft core it is something Ajax did too. They beat Juve and Madrid and Spurs away then bottled it in the last minute AT HOME.
You hear it all the time “it’s the players , the players are terrible “
I feel sorry for them, it’s quite obvious the manager isn’t the tactician we all thought he was.
It’s the managers job to instil belief and coach his team in game to handle these situations if he’s unable to get his message across to the team then he is failing at his role.
Sack him , no matter what happens end of the season he needs to go , if we take him into a New season coaching this team we won’t get any better.
His handling of injuries is baffling and borderline gross incompetence.
Injuries
Player attitude
They are symptoms but the problem is the manager.
I feel sorry for them, it’s quite obvious the manager isn’t the tactician we all thought he was.
It’s the managers job to instil belief and coach his team in game to handle these situations if he’s unable to get his message across to the team then he is failing at his role.
Sack him , no matter what happens end of the season he needs to go , if we take him into a New season coaching this team we won’t get any better.
His handling of injuries is baffling and borderline gross incompetence.
Injuries
Player attitude
They are symptoms but the problem is the manager.
I feel like there's a second part to proverb
I think he's getting the rest of the season, but then he's done.
I don’t understand why SJR has not pulled the trigger yet? Why is that when it’s mathematically impossible to get CL for a manager to get sacked?
Look at the despicable stats and tactical stubbornness from ETH.
Oh how far we have fallen.
Look at the despicable stats and tactical stubbornness from ETH.
Oh how far we have fallen.
I imagine unless he loses to Coventry that he will get the rest of the season but it's probably unlikely he survives to start next season.
I guess it depends on whether they've already started talking to other managers and what responses they've got, we don't want to be in a situation where Liverpool, Bayern, Barcelona and probably Juventus have hoovered up the more attractive options and we end up deciding between Southgate, Potter or keeping Ten Hag.
To be fair, if Sir Jim was looking at the fixtures and we have someone lined up, post Pool would be a dream time to start. 4 relegation teams and Coventry with newcastle getting pushed back.
If I remember right, we have a clause in our managers' contracts where they can be sacked with a smaller/no payoff if they fail to qualify for CL.
Nearly all of his posts have a line in along the lines of "I know more than you about football"
He looked defeated after the game there. I've never seen his demeaner quite like that in the post match interviews. I wonder if he felt that was it for him, whether it comes now or at the end of the season, it's a second consecutive gut punch of a result and those underlying stats aren't looking any better.
I don’t necessarily want him sacked, but I don’t think I’d complain either. It’s getting a bit like Ole towards the end. It’s got that inevitability about it.
This! There's prospective coaches (and players) we could lose out on by wasting time instead of doing what clearly needs to be done.
Nah, too short notice. Maybe after Liverpool game.
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I think Liverpool being next means it’s hard to sack him and give anyone half a chance at a good start.
I might be crazy but I still think there is like a 35% chance he stays on beyond.
Perfect storm of competing with other top clubs for top managerial candidates.
The two best ones not at “big” clubs aren’t moving.
It’s over
Crap, we forgot the 12 month notice we put in his contract!
This season is beyond terrible, we need a change and that has to start with the manager and INEOS putting in an actual recruitment strategy.
Bye Erik. Have no ill will towards him at all and I blame the players more than anything but I don't know what he's trying to do here. His signings have been shit and his tactics bizarre.
Monitor my posts better of late. I didn't decide shit today.
It’s a massive shame because when we play well we’re really good, and like Ole + LVG we’ve brought through exciting young players. It’s bad though when even you’ve turned mate.
It's still half the team, and includes several of our most highly paid and valued players.
I'm actually curious what happened in those 7 games now.
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