"We wish to be the best transition team in the world"
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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I want to know the logic behind bringing McTominay, a headless chicken, on for Casemiro when the number one thing we needed at that stage was to control possession as much as we can.
They have an habit of chopping and changing managers though. Think Nice have had a few under them.
He should go, but that doesn't mean the players aren't also the problem. Dalot was poor all game and got himself in a position where he gave away a penalty. Not a single player picked up the best player on the pitch - that is on the players.
We have a manager out of his depth and a team of players who are utterly clueless.
Most of the fanbase aren't even against him.
No way Spurs and Villa feck up from here and no way do we even capitalise on their feck ups. It’s a miracle that Brentford didn’t beat us on the weekend. -1 goal difference after 30 games 
I can’t see how he’s not done at this point and I was someone who wanted him two years ago. Some of the players can feck off too.
I can’t see how he’s not done at this point and I was someone who wanted him two years ago. Some of the players can feck off too.
Good question, but the Glazers are in no place to make decisions about managers.
Nah it has to be both. No more "fresh starts".
I am not expecting him to be sacked this week but I dont see how you can sacrifice the next season as well if you are the new owner. There is nothing to suggest that he is the guy to take us forward and you don’t have to be a genius to figure that out. If they don’t replace him this summer, they will definitely be doing it at Christmas. There is no chance he is the man for United
Losing in that manner was utter madness from the players.
But conceding 20-30 shots every game and having a seemingly insane system of front boys chase wildly and everyone else hang back leaves us open to even the crappest attacking team.
That was 100% top 5 gone tonight and that's an embarrassing target anyway.
Get considering a new manager now and get it done the second the season is done.
Every chance we'll still have an FA Cup final to come but if it's City there that won't end well.
But conceding 20-30 shots every game and having a seemingly insane system of front boys chase wildly and everyone else hang back leaves us open to even the crappest attacking team.
That was 100% top 5 gone tonight and that's an embarrassing target anyway.
Get considering a new manager now and get it done the second the season is done.
Every chance we'll still have an FA Cup final to come but if it's City there that won't end well.
Why on earth would he take on an interim role? Only way he does that is if he’s guaranteed the permanent job.
12th (!) League defeat of a season at fecking Manchester United and some have the balls to continue making excuses for the guy. "Yeah but can you blame him for [insert player] doing this and that" as if a million isolated situations over a season can be made excuses for. If they stick with him after this horror season than they are no better than the Glazers.
I just hate this club nowadays
Where are we going with him? What's the plan? Because it's not evident on the pitch. Either his plan doesn't work, he doesn't have the personnel for it(his fault), he cannot motivate his players. All damning.
We weren’t this bad under LVG though and we didn’t have to play City (presuming we get to the final despite conceding 30 shots against Coventry) in a final.
We have more chance under an interim of winning the final because they’ll organise us and pack the midfield, we already know what Ten Hag will do and it will involve us getting battered.
But ETH is the one who continually picks him and even renewed his contract. It's also on ETH to sub underperforming players, which he failed to do with Dalot.
Wow, what a revolutionary strategic instruction to give
What did he think the players would do otherwise - play pass and move with someone in blue?
it's genius damn it!Regardless of everything else, injuries or whatever, teams just keep running through our midfield as if it isn't there. He has not done anything to combat that. Even now where midfielders have comeback from injury, he hasn't changed done anything to stop that. I do not understand why he persists with something so obviously flawed. Play two deep if you need to, just do something to fill that giant void.
But no. Same thing over and over and it has to be intentional.
But no. Same thing over and over and it has to be intentional.
Just read that we’ve conceded over 200 shots in 10 games. That’s atrocious
Would be astoundingly dumb to get an interim coach. If we make moves just take the time needed to understand the market and get the right profile in.
It’s mostly his squad. We can’t keep blaming the players season after season. Why don’t we admit we’ve fecked up with our management choices since fergie, and had a rotten structure to compound it
INEOS will wait till after the FA Cup final and will then relieve Erik of his duties whatever the outcome of that game. The same ending as LVG. He has clearly lost any semblance of control he maybe once had and it’s out and out chaos every game now. And a minus 1 GD in April. We’re in the latter weeks of ETH now.
I genuinely said on 85 mins that I would not be surprised if Chelsea win 4-3. It's predictable with the changes that are made during the match. Needless changes like Garnacho off to remove our counter threat, and Mctominay in. He has no discipline like why is he driving forwards late on instead of holding position? Has he been instructed or not?
He'll come out after the game and say we were unlucky but we aren't, we're consistently shambolic and these are the results.
He'll come out after the game and say we were unlucky but we aren't, we're consistently shambolic and these are the results.
Ten hag signed a big money CB. But he signed one that is permanently injured. So Maguire, who is fit every single week year on year, plays. God sounds like we need to get rid of that Maguire fella.
Just back from the game. Whole second half Chelsea were there for the taking. Stadium was on the turn too. Not good enough to just press on and kill them off
Well he would suit playing for us in his current form too
We are absolutely hopeless right now. Everything is vertical, zero control of any game, getting overrun in midfield by any crap side.
When you concede 30+ shots a game, you don’t get to complain when you lose that. But I bet Eth will do just that. Blame everyone else but his own shite coaching and criminally awful set up.
You are right but I'm torn after this game. I do think that we were unlucky(Dalot's penalty) but at the same time I know that we were bad and I also think that Chelsea were somehow worse. So I'm not surprised by the defeat but also think that we could have easily won.
There are two different routes here.
Appoint an Interim that knows he's not getting the job long term. Pointless. Nothing really changes. A bit like Lampard at Chelsea last season.
Appoint an Interim with zero idea of what's coming next. Interim does well and gets the job on a permanent basis. Entire cycle repeats itself in 18 months or said Interim spends whole of next season under pressure because he knows he's not really the first choice longer term.
It might be painful for now but keeping Ten Hag (again, unless they've identified a permanent replacement that can start immediately) is the best option until the end of the season.
Look, people ask who is available. There's one of a few.
Bring back the Poll
I was expecting a title charge before the season began. The most damning fact is that we can't even make Champions League football when even 5th place is enough.
Just can’t see a way forward with him. We (likely) have an even lower bar of top 5 this season and we’re 9 points off with 8 games remaining and Liverpool, Arsenal and Newcastle still to play.
I would think it better to wait until end of season but.... he's definitely done here isn't he?
He’s not shit but he’s close to shit, he’s tactically inept and really does need to be sacked tonight! I’m sure we can get Hansi Flick or Lopetagi to manage the last 9-10 games of the season.
He really does need to be sacked tonight and for the first time I think he might be sacked after the Liverpool game, if he suffers anotherbig loss has to be sacked.
That will be 18 losses for the season, therefore he needs to go!
Worst case there needs to be some internal discussions once everyone is on 'gardening leave' but ready to join, but first the people need to be in place.
The way we are playing and defender are dropping like flies, not sure we will get to the cup final.
Genuinely think he's going nowhere for now regardless. I think we'll give him next season and when that's a bust, he'll finally be out.
Conte would not come as an Interim.
Low quality shots was heralded as some sort of genius tactic. That's how ridiculous the defence of ETH became.
So many have said it, this is unsustainable football. It was never going to work, it's chaotic nonsense and will get shown up constantly against anyone half decent
So many have said it, this is unsustainable football. It was never going to work, it's chaotic nonsense and will get shown up constantly against anyone half decent
I don't know if it's most, but it's still a sizeable enough amount for it to still be absolutely insane. Our supporters have always been too forgiving of terrible managers but I just don't know how anybody can even attempt to defend him at this point.
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