My point is the extent of his specific underperformance from a result standpoint is overcooked, for the context already given.
In a results business where your performance is paramount I do not see how someone can overcook either. I’m genuinely baffled by that sentence, are you saying underperformance &/or poor results are being overstated?
You looked at a win % last season and compared to a win % this season to make a point, but also say progress isn't linear.
I agree with the 16 losses point but we are also not really drawing many games. One win and two draws is an unbeaten run, but 2 wins and one loss is more points, even though it's a better win % and a worse loss %.
At the end of the day, wel probably be on track for the same or more than Liverpool last season by way of points, despite being rocked with far worse injuries.
I highlighted win% in your post, you claimed his win percentage was in some way proof he is doing well & I just delved deeper. I’m not saying progress isn’t linear then criticising the win%. I was critiquing your use of win% without context.
As for progress not being linear, I’ve touched on how before we’d even kicked a ball this season people were making excuses for how 4th would be ok and how the injuries narrative [which again when looked at with context shows we don’t play in a silo and the teams we play have injuries/suspensions too] 5th would now suddenly be acceptable, yet he is leading a team languishing in 6th praying for a miracle.
As for being on track with Liverpool last year. Not sure about the relevance, we weren’t as good as them prior and aren’t going to be as good as they are this season next season. You’re falling into the trap I see many do in defence of EtH on here and not discussing the man on his own merits but throwing in what few other managers have done as outliers.
Aye he's lost too much this season. He's also been dealt a shit hand in defence that leaks so much on shots, which in part is him and in part a lack of organisation and chemistry from a patched up back 4. I'd prefer to refer to tracking his points per game to see how bad he is this season, apply the context and then see the extent to which he underperformed.
Which is exactly why expectations have been lowered to a 5th place finish which he is currently not on target for. Whilst the team currently in 5th place, Spurs, started the season with a worse set of resources and have had their own injury issues.
Part of management is making the best out of what you have at your disposal. No manager has an ideal squad only 18 months into their tenure so they have to tailor their approach to what they have. EtH is not maximising this squad at all but persisting with a flawed tactic off the back of, ‘once you give me another £400mil & a squad with no injuries for a whole season things will be fine’, which is never going to happen.
Thats fine, but I don't see a single manager on the market that actually warrants getting a spot over him. I'd rather see what he's capable of with some better support.
It’s not up to you and me to throw names around a forum for the next manager, it just muddies the water and diverts the discussion from the incumbent. No matter who we hire they will have their naysayers so all we can do is assess the current managers performance.
My thought hasn’t changed from Moyes. If a manager is missing minimum performance expectations they should go. If you operate under a fear of ‘next manager might fail’ no one would ever change managers.